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    WASHINGTON -- U.S. investigators believe the U.S. soldier accused of killing 17 Afghan civilians split the slaughter into two episodes, returning to his base after the first attack and later slipping away to kill again, two American officials said Saturday.
    This scenario seems to support the U.S. government's assertion -- contested by some Afghans -- that the killings were done by one person, since they would have been perpetrated over a longer period of time than assumed when Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales was detained March 11 outside his base in southern Afghanistan.
    But it also raises new questions about how Bales, who was formally charged Friday with 17 counts of premeditated murder and other crimes, could have carried out the nighttime attacks without drawing attention from any Americans on the Kandahar Province base.
    The two American officials who disclosed the investigators' finding spoke on condition of anonymity because the politically sensitive probe is ongoing.
    Many details about the killings, including a possible motive, have not been made public. The documents released by the U.S. military Friday in connection with the murder charges do not include a timeline or a narrative of what is alleged to have happened.
    Bales, 38, is accused of killing nine Afghan children and eight adults. The bodies were found in Balandi and Alkozai villages -- one north and one south of the base, in Kandahar's Panjwai district.
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    also was charged with six counts of attempted murder and six counts of assault in the same case.
    U.S. investigators now believe that Bales walked off his base that night and killed several people in one of the villages, then went back to the base. The American officials, who are privy to some details of the investigation, said they do not know why Bales returned, how long he stayed or what he did while there.
    He then slipped off the base a second time and killed civilians in the second village before again heading back toward the base. It was while he was returning the second time that a U.S. military search party spotted him. He is reported to have surrendered without a struggle.
    Bales is being held in a military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kan.
    There have been previous suggestions that Bales could have returned to base after the first set of shootings, but the American officials who spoke to The Associated Press on Saturday provided the first official disclosure that U.S. investigators have come to this conclusion.
    Members of the Afghan delegation investigating the killings said one Afghan guard working from midnight to 2 a.m. on March 11 saw a U.S. soldier return to the base around 1:30 a.m. Another Afghan soldier who replaced the first and worked until 4 a.m. said he saw a U.S. soldier leave the base at 2:30 a.m. It's unknown whether the two Afghan guards saw the same U.S. soldier.
    U.S. officials have said Bales left the base the first time armed with his 9 mm pistol and M-4 rifle, which was outfitted with a grenade launcher.
    Bales' civilian attorney, John Henry Browne, said Friday that he believes the government will have a hard time proving its case and that his client's mental state will become an important issue. Browne has said Bales suffered from the stress of serving four combat tours.
    The decision to charge Bales with premeditated murder suggests that prosecutors believe they have sufficient evidence that he consciously conceived the killings.
    The maximum punishment for a premeditated murder conviction is death. The mandatory minimum sentence is life imprisonment with the chance of parole.

    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

  • #2
    All lies. One man is not responsible for all this, but a group
    Last edited by Guest; 03-24-2012, 11:06 PM.

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    • #3
      Another cover up. I'm really stunned here -- So now they claim this man left this "heavily" armed base twice? If he had mental problems, why didn't he fire at his own team first? His mental disorder forced him to shoot at Afghans only? Can our Doctor on board, BarakzaiAbdali, verify the existence of such a disorder please because quite frankly this doesn't make any sense.
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #4
        you don't kill half a dozen people, take a little break and then continue with the rest. specially if you have a mental condition responsible for committing these murders in the first place. you either kill all or no one. this is just a cover up for the rest who were involved with him. if not from his own base then probably some other base. why would villagers say there was more than one soldier for no reason?

        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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        • #5
          if he had done some murders then left, the rest of the villagers would have been alerted and activated by the time he got back.
          here we go again..more fables.
          Last edited by faye; 03-25-2012, 12:01 AM. Reason: addition

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          • #6
            From what I've heard, no U.S soldier can leave the Kandahar base alone. He has to be doubled up with somebody. Why is it that he was 'permitted' to leave the base alone twice?
            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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            • #7
              I read a blog comment by a US/NATO solider that was in Afghanistan saying that this was most likely an revenge/intimidation attack against the insurgents. The US/NATO troops are frustrated because the average Afghans neither like or respect them. This attack might or might not have been sanctioned by the core command but it was definitely a message that = we will kill your families and loved ones dont mess with us.

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              • #8
                What revenge can these rednecks ever talk about ? These redneck hicks are not in Hick country. Scare the Pashtuns? Thats a bad joke.
                Last edited by Guest; 03-25-2012, 03:20 PM.

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                • #9
                  US and NATO are cowards, all they can do is kill innocent people and then chat Sh*t.
                  Talibans are kicking their asses and Afghans hates them.

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                  • #10
                    It is simply a load of tosh, they've been doing this for many years beginning from the days when their invasions started. Wherever they go they murder innocents. Its just "unfortunate" on their behalf that this news came out. Guaranteed there are a lot more similar incidents which go untold in the news. If it didn't we would be none the wiser. Time and time again their media has been known to give false news. Must we believe it now?

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                    • #11
                      He wasn´t stationed at the main Kandahar Air Base but a so-called "forward operating base".
                      The only constant is change.

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