Taliban say Chinese woman killed for revenge

[Soldat_Amir]

Taliban say Chinese woman killed for revenge


DERA ISMAIL KHAN: A faction of the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility on Thursday for the killing of a Chinese woman this week, saying it was in revenge for China’s killing of Muslims in its troubled northwestern region of Xinjiang.

The Chinese woman was shot on Tuesday in a market in the northwestern city of Peshawar along with a Pakistani man. Peshawar police chief Imtiaz Altaf said that militants may be behind the Tuesday shooting, but that no conclusions had been reached yet.

“Our comrades carried out the attack in Peshawar which killed the Chinese tourist,” Muhammad Afridi, a spokesman for a faction of the Pakistani Taliban from the Darra Adam Khel area, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

China accused a group, the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), of carrying out attacks in China and said it had broken up training camps for men seeking independence for China’s the largely Muslim Xinjiang region.
Afridi said the militants were also demanding that China halt what he called its support for the Pakistani government’s campaign against militants.

The Chinese embassy in Islamabad called for action after the latest incident.

“The embassy has requested the Pakistani side to conduct a thorough and immediate investigation, bring the murderer to justice and properly deal with its aftermath,” it said.

Pakistan’s ambassador to China, Masood Khan, vowed that the attackers would be tracked down. reuters

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...2-3-2012_pg7_4

[Soldat_Amir]

Now ask yourself this, what on earth did that innocent Chinese tourist do to deserve this, what role did she have with her governmetns track down militants in China?

What is more disgraceful is the fact that she was a woman and killed for no reason.

Those who are applogetic to the Taliban i.e many on here, you think these criminals are going to spare anyone else if they ever came to government.

If they can murder a tourist in cold blood for a reason she has no involvement in, what else do you think they can do.

Just think about it.

[Karachi]

this is nothing but pure murder

[Al Hanif]

What is more disgraceful is the fact that she was a woman.

I thought degenerate secularists were for gender equality.

[Wahe Guru]

I thought degenerate secularists were for gender equality.

She was not guilty of any crime. Gender equality does not mean you start killing innocent women.

[khushal]

Now ask yourself this, what on earth did that innocent Chinese tourist do to deserve this, what role did she have with her governmetns track down militants in China?

What is more disgraceful is the fact that she was a woman and killed for no reason.

Those who are applogetic to the Taliban i.e many on here, you think these criminals are going to spare anyone else if they ever came to government.

If they can murder a tourist in cold blood for a reason she has no involvement in, what else do you think they can do.

Just think about it.

It was a faction of the TTP. there are extremists in every society. Those middle eastern and south asisan people killed in the West right after 911 were killed by ignorant extremists in that society. It does not mean everybody in that society agrees with it.

[IamDZJ]

her fault was being stupid enough to go to peshawar of all the places to be a tourist at. didn't taliban butcher 10 female korean tourists about 5 years ago?

[JattApache]

It was a faction of the TTP. there are extremists in every society. Those middle eastern and south asisan people killed in the West right after 911 were killed by ignorant extremists in that society. It does not mean everybody in that society agrees with it.

Infact,

Many sikhs were killed after 9/11
Because many stupid americans think that they are terrorists because of their beards
Same for muslims with beards

[کیش]

So Solly

[badmash_khel]

Barbaric act by bunch of wild animals. i hope they burn in hell.

Do these people have a brain? seriously.

[JattApache]

I want to read afghanistan2010's reaction because he supports TTP

[haviZsultan]

Now ask yourself this, what on earth did that innocent Chinese tourist do to deserve this, what role did she have with her governmetns track down militants in China?

What is more disgraceful is the fact that she was a woman and killed for no reason.

Those who are applogetic to the Taliban i.e many on here, you think these criminals are going to spare anyone else if they ever came to government.

If they can murder a tourist in cold blood for a reason she has no involvement in, what else do you think they can do.

Just think about it.

Brilliant post. These terrorists are not worth even spitting at. I don't know why Pakistan army isn't going after the commanders and just killing their bottom ranks.

Every area from Swat to Waziristan locals complain that the Pakistan army is not taking proper action against these moronic militants.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Taliban say Chinese woman killed for revenge


DERA ISMAIL KHAN: A faction of the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility on Thursday for the killing of a Chinese woman this week, saying it was in revenge for China’s killing of Muslims in its troubled northwestern region of Xinjiang.

The Chinese woman was shot on Tuesday in a market in the northwestern city of Peshawar along with a Pakistani man. Peshawar police chief Imtiaz Altaf said that militants may be behind the Tuesday shooting, but that no conclusions had been reached yet.

“Our comrades carried out the attack in Peshawar which killed the Chinese tourist,” Muhammad Afridi, a spokesman for a faction of the Pakistani Taliban from the Darra Adam Khel area, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

China accused a group, the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), of carrying out attacks in China and said it had broken up training camps for men seeking independence for China’s the largely Muslim Xinjiang region.
Afridi said the militants were also demanding that China halt what he called its support for the Pakistani government’s campaign against militants.

The Chinese embassy in Islamabad called for action after the latest incident.

“The embassy has requested the Pakistani side to conduct a thorough and immediate investigation, bring the murderer to justice and properly deal with its aftermath,” it said.

Pakistan’s ambassador to China, Masood Khan, vowed that the attackers would be tracked down. reuters

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...2-3-2012_pg7_4

Ah Soldat, keep writing, as it only creates new problems in your proposed paradigm.

Lets start out by saying that the Americans have a wonderful saying.. I have not researched who said it... might be British in origin, but they say: Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.

So for nearly 1 year now you have been harping on the Nokia stamp of approval theory that the ISI is a super monolithic organization that sort of, if I understand your theory correctly, functions like Cobra Command Central (refer to the GI Joe series for those unfamiliar with this terminology). Moreover, the theory goes something like this: The ISI has a complete control over the Taliban nexus that is actually also a monolithic organizations. Additionally, this theory goes so far that even Mullah Omar himself may very well be a ruse... a Kaisor Soze of sorts... a whisper in the wind... and if you view him from the right angle at the right time of night you will see that he is actually... Hamid Gul (duh duh duh ... Dracula music plays).

So we know very well that Pakistan is idiotically viewing itself as a "friend of China" playing a game where it assumes that it can milk two super powers at the same time. So tell me, when did the ISI decide that it would be worthwhile to kill a Chinese woman and endanger its key crucial alliance?

So what we are left with is that this organization, the Taliban is a rather loose confederacy that is attempting to maintain some sort of semblance of centralization with Omar at the figurative head of the ranks. Yet what it leaves the thinking mind with is the knowledge that this organization operates, as common sense would say, rather loosely with multiple groups involved. These groups are comprised of different tribal members and different fighting units. Just as the Haqqani organization and the former H Mehsud group had varying fighters from different clans and tribes, we can assume that there are many dispersed groups involved in this. It is unlikely that they maintain as strong as heirarchial leadership as you imply, with the ISI being the apex as a decapitation attack (and we have seen series of these done) would be enough to obliterate the arms, legs, or head of this organization.

Now, let us not be dam-ned to not read our history and understand how the FATA tribals have operated in the past.

Here is a classical case study, the case of Ajab Khan Afridi:

http://www.khyber.org/cgi-bin/articl...llEykuOQUwaojW

Enjoy reading about the bygone era where the British, the former interventionists of the age, instigated a similar phenomena in the tribal belt.

Pay close attention to how Ajab Khan treated Miss Ellis's relatives:

"Another Frontier Outrage: One Lady Killed and One Kidnapped," with the information that Mollie Ellis, the daughter of Major Ellis, was kidnapped and her mother killed in a bungalow adjoining that of the Commanding General of the Station of Kohat."

Where was the ISI then? Now the British viewed Mr. Afridi with a great deal of disdain, calling his act savage and brutal... and per the rules and regulations of Islam we might say the Sahabaa might have agreed.

However, the Afridi tribesman eulogized him in song and took a simple brigand and turned him into a hero in song:

"Ajab Khan then said to them, "My friends, all the British are thorns in my eyes! I resent it when we're humiliated and when the Englishmen consider us as slaves. When Pathans salute the British, it's like falcons being servants to crows. Thinking about this to myself, it makes me weep, for lions have become obedient to jackals! Those Pathans who used to smash the enemy's teeth are now beneath the earth. But my heart's set on fighting with the British and I'll make the tyrants open up their eyes. I won't pass my life with eyes lowered, that's a promise! And I'll be remembered as a real man until the Resurrection^"

"Ajab Khan returned the memsahib with honor. The noble Pathan had submitted to their pleas. He gave that memsahib into the jirga' s hands and the British had been censured for their deeds. Nine days and nights the memsahib was in his power, but he'd been true and had kept her in trust. When that memsahib returned to her home, she gave much praise to Ajab Khan. She told the story of what happened to her and the English were convinced by her of his nobleness.
Ajab Khan said to himself, "I'm going to Kabul, for life here doesn't seem good to me now. The British act cruelly to Pathans and they're tyrants who won't give up their habits. They've caught Pathans in traps by guile and they've made some agree by land grants, some by bribes."

yet on the British side of the ocean the papers described the abductor of Miss Ellis as a savage on par nearly with the savages in the Americas that would scalp men, women, and children alike.

So history is trying to tell you something Soldat. It is telling you that there are multiple levels of wrong in the Ajab Khan Afridi case and in the this case.

The smaller wrong perhaps:
The killing of an innocent woman.

The slightly larger wrong:
The Taliban leadership not punishing this individual for breaking well known law codes of Islamic warfare

The next level of wrong:
The corrupt governments of Kabul and Islamabad who have put the natives in the predicament of being in status guerilla warfare and setting the scene for such events.

Subnote: Fascinating that a decade ago the Pakistanis viewed the Taliban Shura as group of heroes that stabilized the land across the durand line... yet now that the guns have turned against them they are crying fowl..

The greater wrong:
You and your ilk, a series of sick psychopaths who have not read your history books and are either lazy or malignant, knowing full well that your advocacy position is to push the people of the West to intervene for your views in native lands. This in turn leads to these western innocents becoming murderers on your behalf and potentially dying, leaving behind orphans back home..., and making orphans of Afghan children on both sides of the line. All while you make advocacy videos from your warm British bed!

The greatest wrong:
A series of world powers intervening around the globe and creating predictable back lashes and unleashing war in places where the only recourse is assymmetry.... rendering these populations to be locked in a state of warfare perpetually.. where niduses and pockets of war spread like metastasis due to the actions of these world chess players.

[Afghanistan2010]

her fault was being stupid enough to go to peshawar of all the places to be a tourist at. didn't taliban butcher 10 female korean tourists about 5 years ago?

They were taken hostage in Afghanistan 23 Koreans,but non of the females was ever harmed.

[IamDZJ]

They were taken hostage in Afghanistan 23 Koreans,but non of the females was ever harmed.

so? it doesn't make the fact that they just killed a woman this time any less of a crime. why is everyone so surprised? as if they have not caused for 100s and 1000s of innocent children and women's lives to end in the past. for revenge?? what does islam say about revenge?