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Originally posted by Soldat_Amir
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Please, dont put all turks in the same bag, it's stupid -
Turkey... ahh Turkey... how about they fix their own problems first?
1. The oppression of the innocent Kurds, all they want are their Rights, they want peace and their RIGHTS. yes they are portrayed as the trouble makers but dont forget the media shows what they want to..My best friend is Kurdish she got run out of her village, they did not let her register a Kurdish name in Turkey and the turkish army goes into their vilages and leave bombs lying around, what happens? kids go out to play, and get blown up all the while, Turkey is acting oblivious to the whole situation.
Do you know that when there was an Earthquake in Van, the Turkish government refused to accept help from any one. The news reporter even stated "Even though they are Kurds, we are sad that this earthquake happened in Turkey..." the hell?
2. War in Cyprus... Yes Cyprus was having political problems before... but then Turkey has to invade, weapons up, to divide the land. Turkish Cyprits have no rights, no freedom, they are basically prisoners in their own country. Prior to the 74 war that Turkey initiated Greek Cypriots and Turkish cypriots were living peacefully side by side. Documents did not state whether one was Greek or Turkish, every one was happy. Because of the Turks, the Turkish Cypriots had 2 choices. leave or stay and get killed. Families lost everything, even their own identities...
Dont believe everything you read in the media. My family lived through this war... my grandma still cries about it all the time....Comment
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Originally posted by Babygak View Post
Turks, Arabs, White People... those three races are savage by nature
They enslaved all other races but were never enslaved
Especially Turks and Arabs who even enslaved White People
Turks fought against Poles who were the most savage polytheists you can think of
We Moroccans stopped the Turks in Algerian border though
Morocco was never part of Ottoman Empire
F*CK YEAR !!!
Take care of Moroccans, we are dangerous !
Last edited by Al Hanif; 11-29-2011, 07:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
i dont think u know how it works. nations dont share nukes. of course turkey would allow a nation to host their military and their capabilities if they didnt have control of it. do u think any nation that hosts US bases controls these bases? u think the US takes orders from these countries? lol if these countries had any power whatsoever in the first place, they wouldn't have foreign bases on their soil to begin with. the US won't even sell their newest and most sophisticated jets to turkey, but somehow they are willing to let some relatively small and poor state like turkey have control of their nuclear arsenal? lol ha
turkey is a regional power. i wouldn't say they are rich or even that powerful actually. if they were powerful, they wouldnt be trying to join the EU, while at the same time being rejected by the EU. kazakhstan, among other soviet slave states, hosted nukes. turkey has mostly been a western slave state for the past 60-70 years since the fall of the ottoman empire, and have also hosted nukes and foreign bases.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
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Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
Turkey doesn't want anymore to join the EU
Its economy has 10% of growth, France's for example has 0% of growth
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Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
thats actually not true. turkey has not withdrawn its EU bid.
turkeys gdp grew 8.9% in 2010 and france grew 1%. this is not to mention the fact that france is far more rich than turkey.
not that turkey isnt a relatively rich country, but compared to a country like france? there is little comparison.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
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Why are they doing this? what are the benefits for Turkey? all these situations are linked.. these recent wars, 9-11, Muslims vs non-muslims, freemasons making a new world order, Israel setting itself up for dajjal or whatever the heck people say is going on.. i mean c'mon there must be someone someware that can tell us whats hapning what the real plans are, are these western governments just evil selfish people that are bullying everyone, is america really just a wolf in sheep clothing, something sinister is happening what are clues and proofs people have, what are the lies portrayed to us, what should we believe?? the TV? underground leaders? conspirasists? look at whats happning in the world today from the Qur'aan for clues and signs??.. this hide and seek indirect mind game is enough now for the world..what are the 'people in charge' goal? who are the 'people in charge'..why dont they just fullscale everything right now or are they still scared of their plans messing up or what, which way to head? which way for our people to head.
God if your listening we need an answer.----------
*You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*
Originally posted by KarachiComment
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@ Manzareh: lol... WTF is that rambling bs you just wrote.Comment
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Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
Actually, Turkey has veered away from the EU bid. Erdogan has pretty much lost interest, and the continued diplomatic effort appears to be a recorded formality- and just that. Years and years of rejection of membership is a pretty clear indication that it will never happen.
"Turkey's courtship of the Islamic Arab world
With future EU membership uncertain, Turkey has begun courting its historic realm of influence: the Islamic Arab world, much of which was once under Ottoman Turkish rule for hundreds of years. Erdogan's visit to the Persian Gulf region in January 2011 makes President Obama's comments seem prophetic. Speaking on Jan. 11 at the Turkish-Arab Relations Conference in Kuwait, Erdogan reminded his listeners that Muslim Turks and Arabs had resisted Christian crusaders together. And he urged Arabs and Turks of today to forge their own union and determine the fate of the Middle East:
"The Arabs are our brothers and sisters. We are their brothers and sisters . . . Regardless of what some say, we will continue to develop brotherhood and cooperation with our Arab brothers and sisters . . . We will not turn our back to regions with which we have been sharing friendship and brotherhood for centuries. Our union is political, economic, commercial and cultural. We are members of the same civilization. We share a common history. We wrote our joint history together . . .
"Through solidarity, we can overcome the Palestine problem and end the pain in Iraq and Afghanistan. We do not have to apply at others to help us. Yet, at foremost, we need to establish our own union. We can strengthen stability in Lebanon and prevent terror acts in Egypt. Through solidarity, we can overcome poverty in the region" ("We Will Determine Our Own Foreign Policy, Turkish Premier Says," The Journal of Turkish Weekly, Jan. 11, 2011, emphasis added)."
Obviously, they will continue to try to engage with the EU, but the EU has refused Turkish intentions for membership for a long time. Turkey's original intentions to join the EU were purely economical, but with EU zone's economy on the verge of collapse, it is doubtful Turkey or any other nation for that matter is interested in joining the EU. EU's continuous rejection of Turkey may have been a blessing in disguise.
In regards to your claim about the Turkish economy compared to France, it is wrong. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.p...gue-2011-06-30
https://infocus.credit-suisse.com/ap...297671&lang=EN "Turkey: Growing as Quickly as China?"
The Turkish economy boasted the second highest growth just after China. France on the other hand like much of the EU is on the verge of a joint economic collapse http://seekingalpha.com/article/3074...-default-chain , Erdogan is a staunch Muslim, and many secularist within Turkey fear that and the Islamic roots of his party.Comment
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lolOriginally posted by Badmashboy View Post----------
*You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*
Originally posted by KarachiComment
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From Iran to Turkey,from Syria to Libya 300 Taliban fighter are enough to capture them all in some weeks.High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.
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Biggest army is not necessary the best. Both Russia and usa would probably win a war against China because of their technology.
The kafir Assad and his Shia sect need to be removed so Syrian yet again can be and Islamic and free Arab country not a satelite of Iran. I support Turkish involvement if they can remove Assad. Russia should mind their own business. They are getting destroyed in Caucasus.Comment
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