TTP bomb factory seized in Karachi

[Talal]

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\03\21\story_21-3-2010_pg7_9

TTP bomb factory seized in Karachi


* Three suspects arrested, accused of planning ‘big terror attacks’ in city


By Faraz Khan

KARACHI: The Special Investigation Unit (SIU) of Sindh police claims to have arrested three suspected Taliban and seized a bomb-making factory of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in Orangi Town on Saturday.

SIU chief Raja Omar Khittab confirmed the arrests of the TTP operatives and the seizure of the bomb factory in the precincts of the Sindh Industrial Trading Estate (SITE) police station.

He said the arrested men were planning “big terror attacks” in Karachi.

The SIU police said Taliban were being trained for preparing bombs and a large quantity of locally-manufactured bombs was seized from the factory.

According to details, the raid was conducted on a tip-off by an SIU team in the precincts of the SITE police station at a house where the three alleged Taliban – Ghani Subhan, Maulana Rehman and Murad – were arrested after a gunbattle.

During interrogation, the suspects revealed the location of the bomb factory in Qaimkhani Colony in Mochko area where the police raided and seized detonators, bottle bombs, pipe bombs and various other types of homemade explosives.

Police said Subhan was the leader of the trio and had established the laboratory, adding that he was arrested by the Criminal Investigation Department police in 2006 but was later released on bail.

Police claimed the accused were involved in various criminal activities, including the blasts in an Internet cafe in Baldia Town and a video shop in north Karachi.

[Talal]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\03\21\story_21-3-2010_pg7_9

[tor_khan]

Please post a source so I hope this is true.

These terorrists need to stop !

Precisely -

- Solutions, anybody?

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Precisely -

- Solutions, anybody?

Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it. - Noam Chomsky

Both Pakistan and the US of A could learn some lessons from this. They both engage in international terrorism and their agents, from time to time, come back and bite their master's hands...

[Dinosaur Khan]

Precisely -

- Solutions, anybody?

Religous terrorism (talibanization) has many solutions.
*Dont listen to mullah, dont sit to mullah and bycott the mullah...specially one should strictly moniter his children.
*Reformation and renovation of all madrassas.
*whole urdu novel of "firdus_e_bareen" by abdul haleem sharar should be taught in school( it is abt hasan bin saba movement) or other these type of subjects.

[tor_khan]

Religous terrorism (talibanization) has many solutions.
*Dont listen to mullah, dont sit to mullah and bycott the mullah...specially one should strictly moniter his children.

Runaway Mullahs - who needs them??

In the UAE the khutbahs are all pre-written, so every week the dua is the same - love the country, love the people, love the Emir, his righteous brothers and the founder of the country. Funny how they leave "religion" out of it completely, but seem to have replaced it with the religion of personality cult (erm .. Stalin, Saddam etc.)

*Reformation and renovation of all madrassas.

New and improved curriculum and teaching methods too. They should hire me - education reform is my field.

*whole urdu novel of "firdus_e_bareen" by abdul haleem sharar should be taught in school( it is abt hasan bin saba movement) or other these type of subjects.

And also, they could even teach the Shanti Parva (The Book of Peace) ... should be close enough to Pakistan's past as the cradle of the Indic civilisation. The Shanti Parva, Chapter 13 from the Mahabarta, happens to be the longest book in the epic and deals with poltics, economics and society. Sounds like the perfect manual for Pakistan.

... And whilst I say this, the slight problem of course is that Pakistan would have to acknowledge that most of its population are ex-Hindus and somehow the transition to their version of Islam missed the bit about ideal Islam being a peaceful religion.

[Master Khan]

This is great news, Its about time we stop this Taliban crap.

[Dinosaur Khan]

This is great news, Its about time we stop this Taliban crap.

This taliban crap can not be cleaned by military operations. Even if they r suppressed by use of force, they will wait and then will re-emerge at suitable time.
To exterminate it change in mindset of pashtuns is required through different mechanisms with long term planning.

[Dinosaur Khan]

Runaway Mullahs - who needs them??

In the UAE the khutbahs are all pre-written, so every week the dua is the same - love the country, love the people, love the Emir...

I am talking about mullahs of pakhtunkhwa, who is bothered about mullah of UAE.
You dont live in pakistan therefore you are not aware of mullahism and its direct role in talibanization.

[tor_khan]

I am talking about mullahs of pakhtunkhwa, who is bothered about mullah of UAE.
You dont live in pakistan therefore you are not aware of mullahism and its direct role in talibanization.

I'll show some restraint in my response Jodigul Jaana. Kho peghor ta iss zaroorat nishta. Teek da pa Pakistan kee neyam, kho sta kha khyaal, chi zu poha neyam? Da dunya sarey yam, zaan mi kha poora khabar karey dey da deru khabaru na.

You're still not over yesterday. I made the effort to soften the tone both publicly and privately and was hoping you'd get over this, but I'm not about to grovel.

Anyhow, back to topic - the Taliban government in Afghanistan was recognised by Pakistan, Saudi and the UAE, so the UAE example is actually, rather relevant. My point (read back please) was how religion here is controlled and personality cult is probably more important.

How a country decides to influence the masses is down to the culture they push - here its local culture and internationalism, in Turkey its militant secularism, in the US it is individual liberty and in Pakistan it has been a swing between militariism and Fear-Of-Indiaism. That is why I also gave the example of looking into the past so that cultural pride needn't just be about a short history and fear of the neighbours out of which support for militant Talibanisation as the way to resist of foreign/domestic power has grown.

You are right, I don't have all the answers to Pakistan's problems, but I'm sure we agree that Taliban influence (nutured by the ISI etc.) needs addressing and I was just sharing some thoughts aloud.

By the way, 2 points - number 1 - they don't call them mullahs here - that's Persian, not Arab and - number 2 - on a personal level, I'd like you to stop seeing me as the enemy.

[Dinosaur Khan]

Not all pakistanis were ex-hindus e.g pashtuns and Talibanization is mostly popular among pashtuns. So we can not say that extremism within us is because of retaining of some of hindu traits during transition to islam.
There must be some other explanation of militriasm and extremism within us.

[tor_khan]

Not all pakistanis were ex-hindus e.g pashtuns and Talibanization is mostly popular among pashtuns. So we can not say that extremism within us is because of retaining of some of hindu traits during transition to islam.
There must be some other explanation of militriasm and extremism within us.

You're quite right again Jodigulla. Not all Pakistanis are ex-Hindu, but mainstream Pakistan has more in common with India than they do with Iran for example. Because the country has little to base a national identity around it constructs a false Perso-Mughal self-identity, when in fact most Pakistanis are Indic by descent.

Pakistan needs a raison d'être - (reason to exist) - without it Pakistan is no more. To this date governments have thrived on fear of India - and with it all things Indian - this doesn't make sense, because look at Pakistan today, connected to India in a thousand different ways, not least cultural, linguistically and spiritually.

What is the real reason that Muslim Panjabees (in Pakistan) promote Urdu as their language when if fact the language that is theirs is Panjabee written in Gurmukhi script (this point would be censored in Pakistan). I think one solution is for at least the Eastern half of the country to stop behaving as if India was the enemy and embrace their past. What would be wrong in them learning their own language and history using their own script? Of course, one slight issue may be around Panjabee Muslim contribution to history, which to be honest only begins around 1947 - prior to that they had little power.

Wanna stop extremism in Pakistan? Redress power and take an introspective look at the raison d'être. If Pakistan stops seeing India as the enemy, then that's a start. Extremism amongst Pashtoons is organic - stop feeding it and it will die. Right now it is being fed - again by the Panjab - because these very expendable armed and dangerous Pashtoons can be happily placed on the frontline with any future conflict with India.

[Talal]

Religous terrorism (talibanization) has many solutions.
*Dont listen to mullah, dont sit to mullah and bycott the mullah...specially one should strictly moniter his children.
*Reformation and renovation of all madrassas.
*whole urdu novel of "firdus_e_bareen" by abdul haleem sharar should be taught in school( it is abt hasan bin saba movement) or other these type of subjects.

You pretty much nailed it with the first point. One of the biggest weapons talibans have at their disposal are these mullah's and even dangerous than that are those 5 page story books that talk about jihad and what not. These are the basic and really effective recruiting tools available to taliban. We have to root out this problem and give people true knowledge about whats right and wrong.

[Dinosaur Khan]

Tor khana i agree with you, we are un-necessarily clashing with india, threats from india has made excuse for our armed forces to allot huge proportions of budget for defence leaving not so much for other fields. Thus the conflict has hinderd progress in the country
Our text books are teaching us to hate hindus which is plain wrong.

About the identity, According to jinnah pakistan was born when first hindu of sub-continent converted to islam,

[Dinosaur Khan]

and even dangerous than that are those 5 page story books that talk about jihad. These are the basic and really effective recruiting tools available to taliban.

In our area mullahs who are once very poor, are now suddenly facilitated with cars ,bunglows and money for their services in recruiting from unkown source. i.e for money they are corrupting, a sign of qayamat.