Do Libyans Support Shariah or Democracy ?

[Al Hanif]

Does Libians Support Shariah or Democracy? - YouTube

[Soldat_Amir]

One fact we do know, they support Nato's implimentation of Sharia on Libya. What jokers they are. We will see the outcome of Sharia in Libya, and lets see if these lunatics get the same standard of living they had under Qadafi, lets see if they get free allowances, gender equality etc.

Just like how it happened in Iraq, when Alqaida started killing their own, the same cas scenario will occur in Libya, and the big Western cooperations will take the resouces and their Islamist proxies will be spending their time killing eachother to enter Jannat Farus.

I wish my Afghan people had more sense to never associate too much with the West and the Arab Muslim world, this is exactly what happens when you listen to Savages from the middle east.

Even modernisation/Socialism/a good standard of life, will never satisfy these Arabs, they are of the same blood as the Jews, both are greedy civilisations that love to plunder and pillage, or use others to do their dirty work.

Good Luck to Libya, Dont count on your nation being truely free.

[al-arab]

One fact we do know, they support Nato's implimentation of Sharia on Libya. What jokers they are. We will see the outcome of Sharia in Libya, and lets see if these lunatics get the same standard of living they had under Qadafi, lets see if they get free allowances, gender equality etc.

Just like how it happened in Iraq, when Alqaida started killing their own, the same cas scenario will occur in Libya, and the big Western cooperations will take the resouces and their Islamist proxies will be spending their time killing eachother to enter Jannat Farus.

I wish my Afghan people had more sense to never associate too much with the West and the Arab Muslim world, this is exactly what happens when you listen to Savages from the middle east.

Even modernisation/Socialism/a good standard of life, will never satisfy these Arabs, they are of the same blood as the Jews, both are greedy civilisations that love to plunder and pillage, or use others to do their dirty work.

Good Luck to Libya, Dont count on your nation being truely free.

Another senseless post by you.

Shariah>Gaddafi. End of debate.

About Iraq. You should read about what Americans did to divide us Sunnis. But Alhamdulillah the american occupiers will be gone the 1 January next year and they did not succeed in their mission and we can after that Insha'Allah implement Shariah law for the benefit of the people and the order.

[abassinafghan]

lol the americans didnt succed ???

all oil fields from mossul to basra are in american joint ventures , americans has got controll over them .

americans installed a "stable " regime which will take care of their interessts .
americans dictate iraqs foreign political orientation .



for what is shariat good if you are a slave and not free ..... ,for what is shariat good if you are humiliated day in and day out and you dont respond ??? is that even shariat ?

al hanif you are the typicall brainwashed wahabi , satisfied with so called shariat and so called "true" islam , but not even realising that you are an american slave , doomed to do as they want ,without knowing it .

or let us say sitting there and dont care ...

[al-arab]

lol the americans didnt succed ???

all oil fields from mossul to basra are in american joint ventures , americans has got controll over them .

americans installed a "stable " regime which will take care of their interessts .
americans dictate iraqs foreign political orientation .



for what is shariat good if you are a slave and not free ..... ,for what is shariat good if you are humiliated day in and day out and you dont respond ??? is that even shariat ?

al hanif you are the typicall brainwashed wahabi , satisfied with so called shariat and so called "true" islam , but not even realising that you are an american slave , doomed to do as they want ,without knowing it .

or let us say sitting there and dont care ...

Please brother, don't comment on matters you have a limited knowledge about.

Americans do not control the oil it is in Iraqi hands.

Yes, the CURRENT Iraqi government is a puppet of America, but they will not survice after the withdrawel of the occupiers. I can guarantee you that.

How dare you question the porpuse or nobility of the Shariah? And what has Almighy Allah's law to do with past American occupation?

[Al Hanif]

lol the americans didnt succed ???

all oil fields from mossul to basra are in american joint ventures , americans has got controll over them .

americans installed a "stable " regime which will take care of their interessts .
americans dictate iraqs foreign political orientation .

Americans lost all credibility by attacking Iraq. Millions of westerners converted to Islam after this. They won militarily but they lost strategically.

al hanif you are the typicall brainwashed wahabi , satisfied with so called shariat and so called "true" islam , but not even realising that you are an american slave , doomed to do as they want ,without knowing it .

or let us say sitting there and dont care ...

First of all, stop calling me a wahabi. I don't follow any Sheikh. If I was a wahabi, I would tell you to follow such Sheikh from Jordan and such Sheikh from Saudi Arabia. But I never did it. All my points of views are illustrated with the Qur'an. I've never used a hadith in this forum yet. (Except for the definition of a muslim, which was based on a hadith of Angel Djibril (as) )

I think that Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab was wrong on many points. Have you ever seen any "wahabi" making such a claim ? So, stop calling me like this. Because I am definitely not a salafi/wahabi.

I am not unknownprince either. Why is this place filled with psychotics ?

I posted this video to show what the average Libyan thinks of Shari'a.

In no way do I support the Libyan war.

In no way do I support the NTC.

In no way do I support the "libyan rebels".

In no way do I support Gaddafi.

All the people who fought along with the NATO are apostates. That means the NTC and the people who took part in fightings.

The only purpose of this video is to show what the average Libyan thinks of Shari'a, it has nothing to do with politics.

I am more aware than you that Libyans are in a catastrophic situation, that it was a tremendous error to threw Gaddafi and that they are now the slaves of the west. But that doesn't put aside the fact that Libyans want Shari'a. YOU MAD ?

[abassinafghan]

well i have no knowledge ,

but no oil field is exploited by any iraqi govermental or private company , they are paid up to 2 dollars per barrel royalties, considering the production costs and the current market price its just like robbery .

I've never used a hadith in this forum yet

well than you denie the sunnah of rasullah ? are you a quranist ? you have no mazhab ?
you are taking things out of context ? with out knowledge ? without guidiance and explination ?

well THAT IS WAHABISM , even if you call your self salafi , or what ever , you show charasteristics of sects , just like ismaeli or ahmadiya

[Al Hanif]

well than you denie the sunnah of rasullah ? are you a quranist ? you have no mazhab ?
you are taking things out of context ? with out knowledge ? without guidiance and explination ?

well THAT IS WAHABISM , even if you call your self salafi , or what ever , you show charasteristics of sects , just like ismaeli or ahmadiya

I am not a Quranist AT ALL. Calm dowm.

I don't reject the hadiths. But I prefer to use the Qur'an. That's just how I work.

I know who are Quranists, Quran-Aloners... and all those misguided sects. They are hardcore munafiqs.

I am not a Salafi either.

I don't belong to any group.

I am just a muslim.

Do you have a problem with it ?

Sounds like being just a 'muslim' is impossible nowadays.

You are the reason why I don't belong to any sect.

I follow the Maliki Madhab because I'm of Moroccan descent.

[Soldat_Amir]

Sorry to say this Al hanif, but I am going to be frank about this, and hopefully do not offend you or other people on this forum, but my view is of the following:-

"If the Arabs of Libya, want to start stoning adulterers, open up Harems, have more than one wife, lashing female victoms of rape because they couldnt find four male witnesses, open up public execution booths, lashing people who listen to music, declare Osama Bin Laden as national hero, legalise a Suicide bombing division and lash men who shave."

Then go ahead but keep it within Libya, nobody else is interested.

I hope I didnt offend anyone, I just wanted to express a real fact.

[Soldat_Amir]

I am not a Quranist AT ALL. Calm dowm.

I don't reject the hadiths. But I prefer to use the Qur'an. That's just how I work.

I know who are Quranists, Quran-Aloners... and all those misguided sects. They are hardcore munafiqs.

I am not a Salafi either.

I don't belong to any group.

I am just a muslim.

Do you have a problem with it ?

Sounds like being just a 'muslim' is impossible nowadays.

You are the reason why I don't belong to any sect.

I follow the Maliki Madhab because I'm of Moroccan descent.

Once again, coming straight out of your mouth, you have catagorised the faith you claim is perfect. You are a plain and simple TAKFIRI SALAFI. Its as simple as that. These claims of being Muslim are just your cover to blend in. Most Muslims dislike Salafis, so does most of the world. You are the Christian Zionists of the west, you are deluded with toxics of irrationality and backwardness.

[abassinafghan]

soldat amir , i acknowledge some of your thoughts , but i dont like your western atheistic views ..... stop your kufr and come back to the faith of your forefathers .

the battle of maiwand was not fought and won by kafirs or atheists ....

[Al Hanif]

Sorry to say this Al hanif, but I am going to be frank about this, and hopefully do not offend you or other people on this forum, but my view is of the following:-

"If the Arabs of Libya, want to start stoning adulterers, open up Harems, have more than one wife, lashing female victoms of rape because they couldnt find four male witnesses, open up public execution booths, lashing people who listen to music, declare Osama Bin Laden as national hero, legalise a Suicide bombing division and lash men who shave."

Then go ahead but keep it within Libya, nobody else is interested.

I hope I didnt offend anyone, I just wanted to express a real fact.

I like you. Because you're frank.

About adultery :

What's the problem with stoning adulterers ? Adultery means cheating on your husband or on your wife. How many children had an extremely difficult childhood and ended up drug addicts, alcoholics or even killed themselves just because their parents divorced because one cheated on another ?

How many african, asian females and babies were contamined by AIDS because some males cheated on their wives ?

Adultery is a crime.

The people who are stoned to death are extremely rare. You need 4 witnesses to make the sanction applicable. That's almost impossible. This punishment is made just to scare people so they wouldn't do it.

If someone who is married wants to have sexual intercourse with another person, then he/she just has to divorce and to marry the other person.

I know, since I'm a child that putting my fingers in the outlet would kill me. And I don't do it. The people stoned to death expected nothing but being stoned to death if they were caught. So it's normal.

About Harems :

Harems were strictly forbidden to males. You have been mislead by the description of Ottoman harems by Europeans. It's all Sexual Fantaisies. None of those descriptions are depicting the reality. Harems were strictly forbidden to males. It was a place where women were doing basically the same thing western women are doing during only-female parties.

About lashing female victims of rape because they couldnt find four male witnesses :

WTF are you talking about ?

You can be lashed only if there are 4 witnesses caughting you doing it.

You can't be lashed because you have no proof you were raped.

The worse thing which could happen to you is that the people don't trust you and call you a fornicator (but they can't lash you since there isn't 4 witnesses) and you will end up single or you would marry with a fornicator (because according to the Sharia, fornciators can only marry fornicators.

About opening public execution booths :

That could be entertaining on sunday afternoons. I personally wouldn't be against it. Especially if those people are cold blooded baby killers or Bushs, Karzais, Najubullahs, Obamas... That would be an excellent good lesson to the society.

About declaring Osama Bin Laden as national hero :

It's not a duty. I don't think OBL was a good person. Even if I think that he was more intelligent than you.

About lashing people who listen to music, lashing men who shave.

At least you won't have Justin Beiber fans. As for lashing people who shave, people who listen to music... This is not part of the Shari'a. The prophet never said to lash the people who don't pray.

This is innovation. I've heard that Talibans did it. This is not part of the Shari'a.

But that doesn't make Talibans non-muslims.

And their Jihad is 100% legitimate.

[Al Hanif]

Once again, coming straight out of your mouth, you have catagorised the faith you claim is perfect. You are a plain and simple TAKFIRI SALAFI. Its as simple as that. These claims of being Muslim are just your cover to blend in. Most Muslims dislike Salafis, so does most of the world. You are the Christian Zionists of the west, you are deluded with toxics of irrationality and backwardness.

LOL NO. I'm just a muslim. As simple as that. I don't follow any sect. I don't follow any Sheikh.

[Al Hanif]

I forgot

About having more than one wife :

The reason why male muslims are allowed to have more than one wife and muslim women aren't allowed to have more than one husband is very simple. Let me explain it to you with two examples.

Let's say that one man has 4 wives. Then if one of those wives has a child, it will be easy for them to know who is the father. The family, the society will directly recorgnize the father.

Let's say that a woman has 4 husbands. Then if she gets pregant, we couldn't know who is the father. We need a DNA test to know who is the father. The child will encounter problems about his paternity and in his social life since he doesn't know who is his father.

So the reason why men can have 4 wives and women can't have 4 men is because men and women were created different by Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.

[Alchemist]

So soldout Amir...

If you know that living standards for Libyans were better under Qadafi's Rule, why do you blame the mess that is about to hit libya on Islam, the religion of the majority of Libyans? Shouldn't you be wagging your finger at France, England and US for bringing chaos into the country?


And all this cliche of "Harems" and men marrying four wives and lashing them on the street is just that - cliche's and stereotypes:

Planet of The Arabs - YouTube!


you, scimitar and toromana should watch the above ^...its goood.