A Veteran Dies By Suicide Every 80 Minutes, Center For A New American Security Study

[Afghanistan2010]

A veteran commits suicide every 80 minutes, according to a study published Monday.
Military suicides have increased since the start of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a Center for a New American Security Suicide report . In the fiscal year 2009 alone, 1,868 veterans of these wars have made suicide attempts, according to armytimes.com.
These staggering figures underscore the need for the VA to develop more mental-health programs and an accurate system for recording the number of veterans and service members who take their lives.
"America is losing its battle against suicide by veterans and service members," authors Dr. Margaret C. Harrell and Nancy Berglass concluded. "And as more troops return from deployment, the risk will only grow."
Faced with the stigma of post-traumatic stress disorder, unemployment rates tipping 12 percent and a loss of the military camaraderie, many veterans report feeling purposeless upon returning home.
Marine Corps veteran Jason Christiansen, 35, of St. Paul, Minn. is one such veteran that nearly killed himself after watching his life unravel upon completing his service. He lost his job as an auto dealer in 2008, avoided debt collectors and fell into a serious depression, Minnesota.publicradio.org reports.
"At one point, I was sitting there with a gun in my mouth," Christiansen told the news outlet.
A friend pushed Christiansen to seek help at a VA program, a key player in the rescuing of veterans in despair.
The Veterans Crisis Line, launched in 2007, has fielded more than 400,000 calls and has saved more than 14,000 lives, according to the Veterans Affairs mental health website.
The epidemic is raging among those who are currently serving too. From 2005 to 2010, approximately one service member committed suicide every 36 hours, the CNAS study revealed.
While the VA mental-health programs have proven to be effective, the authors of the report offered concrete suggestions on how to prevent even more military members and veterans from taking their lives.
Establishing an Army unit cohesion period
When soldiers are deployed to a new mission, the unit quickly disbands, leaving service members reeling from the loss of the leaders and the service members that they had learned to trust and rely on. "This lack of unit stability following a deployment has unfortunate implications for individuals struggling with reintegration," Harrell and Berglass noted. The authors suggested that the Army follow the Marines protocol of keeping a unit together for 90 days following deployment.
Discussing personally-owned weapons with service members
Though 48 percent of military suicides in 2010 occurred at the hands of privately-owned weapons, the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act bars military leaders from broaching the topic with military members, even if they appear to be severely depressed. The authors want Congress to rescind the act, so that military leaders can, at the very least, suggest that service members purchase gunlocks or store their weapons outside of the home if they suspect that they may be at risk for committing suicide.
Improving the analysis of veteran suicide data
The VA estimates that about 18 veterans commit suicide every day, but this statistic is based on limited data. Only 16 states submit the cause of death among veterans and the VA relies on 3-year-old data for its reports. Improved information collection could help determine if veterans are committing suicide soon after leaving the military and if there's a higher risk among post-9/11 veterans compared with earlier generations, the study noted.
"The DOD does not currently take sufficient responsibility for veteran suicide," the authors said. "Given the potential implications of veteran suicide for the all volunteer force, the DOD should seek to understand which veterans, and how many veterans, are dying by suicide."

WATCH Related Video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1070491.html

[Soldat_Amir]

Its funny how you make fun of people taking their own lives, hows about you educate us on the number of children Talibs kidnapped to take their lives to take other lives.

Atleast these men take their own lives in their own homes, instead of running into a mosque,market, screeming this and that, and blowing people into pieces.

What about the huge number of Afghan women who burn themselves to death, hand themselves or poison themselves due to people like you?

[Afghanistan2010]

They die out of depressions and out of their sickness,and the reason that they have no reason to live.

The soldiers of the Islamic emirate and they are all aged between 18 and 80 are fighting for a noble cause,the protection of the poor innocents afghan muslims who are being oppressed,in the defense of islam.

These afghan women are being oppressed by such secularists and uneducated people like you,the one has nothing todo with the other you stupid.

I can't come with a survey about rape cases in USA when we talk about the War in Nazi Germany , its just ridiculous

[Soldat_Amir]

They die out of depressions and out of their sickness,and the reason that they have no reason to live.

So do many Afghan people who suffer from domestice violence, depression, lack of welfare and economical problems.

The soldiers of the Islamic emirate and they are all aged between 18 and 80 are fighting for a noble cause,the protection of the poor innocents afghan muslims who are being oppressed,in the defense of islam.

The soldiers of the Islamic Emerite of ISI/Pakistan, are aged from a very young age, recruited from Madrassahs from Paksitan such as Darool Haqani, brainwashed and told they will meet virgins in the afterlife if they strap a vest around their bodies and run into mosques, markets and construction camps. Thats not in the defence of Islam, thats in the defence of Pakistan's policy towards Afghanistan. As a matter of fact, Taliban have killed more innocent people than Nato as a whole. Please dont add a dead talib as an innocent Afghan. The Taliban target young people because they know they are much easier to brainwash and have less responsibilities than older men. Plus, if they are defending Islam, then how come they fight eachother over a road and leadership position, like we saw in Orakzai agency, just after Baitullah being killed while visting his second wife?

These afghan women are being oppressed by such secularists and uneducated people like you,the one has nothing todo with the other you stupid.

I am being told I am uneducated by a suicide bombing fanatic supporter? I have been to more places than your imgination can muster. Afghan women are supported through many secular agencies, that provide medical care, education and other forms of assistance, unlike the Taliban, who banned them from education(Swat,Waziristan etc) blown up female schools, banned women from working positions in Afghanistan, forced them to wear bed sheets(Arab Pagan burqas) and publicly executed them in a football stadiem just for showing their feet. WOW, Taliban are really Pro Afghan women, YEAH RIGHT! What about the women used as suicide bombers? I bet they were given many rights too! Your the stupid one! Talib supporter sat in the West, if you love Talib-like laws so much, piss off to Somalia, I am sure Al Sahab can cater for most of your needs, you can beat all the women you want with your Miswaq.

I can't come with a survey about rape cases in USA when we talk about the War in Nazi Germany , its just ridiculous

I am sure the Taliban never raped a single Hazara women when they went on their rampage to cleanse the Hazara villages of Shias.

I guess the Taliban never touched a single young boy in their life, even though there have been stories about how the Taliban rape little boys.

[IamDZJ]

Allahu Akbar*Allahu Akbar, people are killing themselves??*
How old are you??

[Catya Sher]

Re Soldat_ Amr:

That's totally ridiculous.
If Taliban did such bad things, they would be punished IMMEDIATELY.
They wouldn't be real Taliban anyway but some bad elements who crept into the
ranks probably sent by Shaitan to stir up a bad reputation for the Taliban
and make the Afghans fear them.

About the study - this as usual is only the tip of the iceberg.
As the article states, figures are not clear.

What about all the guys [and women in the military too ] who
return and feel so depressed that they can't DO anything at all but
mope around ?
What a loss is that too.
How many of them dwell on negative thoughts, such as they'd rather be dead
than alive - ?
This is probably 5 times the number as the ones who actually carry through with these bad deeds.

The article makes it SOUND like it's all about camaraderie in the units
being shattered by disbandment.
I DOUBT THAT>

I am SURE it's because of a NAGGING CONSCIENCE at the dastardly deeds
they were told to do.

Remember the video posted by I think GYE about the one soldier whose wife
tearfully told the local town news station that her husband had killed himself
because, he told her, he couldn't face what he had done in Afghanistan
and Iraq ??

THAT IS THE CORE REASON for this EPIDEMIC.
No American article will admit this.
Because clearly Americans will deduce that something terrible
was happening by orders of US military higher-ups...
so it's truly a BIG COVER-UP
to explain away military suicides as anything else but
derangement or mental disorientation at having to
commit atrocities onto kindly, nice villagers, who
the American soldiers HAD to be able to see were
completely no enemy to America, that's pathetic that
they are blindly ordered to do these things
to terrorize Afghans into submitting to
the Devil's dictates
in every department of their lives: having religion
taken away from them, cultural patterns
stomped on, etc.

[Soldat_Amir]

Re Soldat_ Amr:

That's totally ridiculous.
If Taliban did such bad things, they would be punished IMMEDIATELY.
They wouldn't be real Taliban anyway but some bad elements who crept into the
ranks probably sent by Shaitan to stir up a bad reputation for the Taliban
and make the Afghans fear them.

About the study - this as usual is only the tip of the iceberg.
As the article states, figures are not clear.

What about all the guys [and women in the military too ] who
return and feel so depressed that they can't DO anything at all but
mope around ?
What a loss is that too.
How many of them dwell on negative thoughts, such as they'd rather be dead
than alive - ?
This is probably 5 times the number as the ones who actually carry through with these bad deeds.

The article makes it SOUND like it's all about camaraderie in the units
being shattered by disbandment.
I DOUBT THAT>

I am SURE it's because of a NAGGING CONSCIENCE at the dastardly deeds
they were told to do.

Remember the video posted by I think GYE about the one soldier whose wife
tearfully told the local town news station that her husband had killed himself
because, he told her, he couldn't face what he had done in Afghanistan
and Iraq ??

THAT IS THE CORE REASON for this EPIDEMIC.
No American article will admit this.
Because clearly Americans will deduce that something terrible
was happening by orders of US military higher-ups...
so it's truly a BIG COVER-UP
to explain away military suicides as anything else but
derangement or mental disorientation at having to
commit atrocities onto kindly, nice villagers, who
the American soldiers HAD to be able to see were
completely no enemy to America, that's pathetic that
they are blindly ordered to do these things
to terrorize Afghans into submitting to
the Devil's dictates
in every department of their lives: having religion
taken away from them, cultural patterns
stomped on, etc.

Should I take this seriously? Are you another one of those crazy Christian fundies?

I am being told by a Westerner, who Isnt even open about her own ID and who she really is, that I am speaking a bang of bollocks?

Shaytaan sending the Bad Taliban into the Ranks of Taliban.

Honestly, this is an insult to my intelligence.

Catya Sher, I have seen the ground realities. You, on the other hand, havnt even been open about who you truely are, besides making up baseless and non factual claims about the true nature of the Taliban.

Your view is, Shaytaan comes with his horns and red skin, and sends the bad Taliban to give the Taliban a bad name.

I feel sorry for you.

I think you need to express what your real motives are on this forum!

[Afghanistan2010]

[QUOTE=Soldat_Amir;536058]

So do many Afghan people who suffer from domestice violence, depression, lack of welfare and economical problems.

Their depression comes from their war crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq,the children they have killed,the women they have raped and the innocents they have tortured for years.

The soldiers of the Islamic Emerite of ISI/Pakistan, are aged from a very young age, recruited from Madrassahs from Paksitan such as Darool Haqani, brainwashed and told they will meet virgins in the afterlife if they strap a vest around their bodies and run into mosques, markets and construction camps. Thats not in the defence of Islam, thats in the defence of Pakistan's policy towards Afghanistan. As a matter of fact, Taliban have killed more innocent people than Nato as a whole. Please dont add a dead talib as an innocent Afghan. The Taliban target young people because they know they are much easier to brainwash and have less responsibilities than older men. Plus, if they are defending Islam, then how come they fight eachother over a road and leadership position, like we saw in Orakzai agency, just after Baitullah being killed while visting his second wife?

Have you any proofs that Taliban were responsible for mosque,market or construction camps bombings without that Apostate napak soldiers or NATO terrorists and its allies were targeted ?
so show us that we can too hate them for their crimes.

I am being told I am uneducated by a suicide bombing fanatic supporter? I have been to more places than your imgination can muster. Afghan women are supported through many secular agencies, that provide medical care, education and other forms of assistance, unlike the Taliban, who banned them from education(Swat,Waziristan etc) blown up female schools, banned women from working positions in Afghanistan, forced them to wear bed sheets(Arab Pagan burqas) and publicly executed them in a football stadiem just for showing their feet. WOW, Taliban are really Pro Afghan women, YEAH RIGHT! What about the women used as suicide bombers? I bet they were given many rights too! Your the stupid one! Talib supporter sat in the West, if you love Talib-like laws so much, piss off to Somalia, I am sure Al Sahab can cater for most of your needs, you can beat all the women you want with your Miswaq.

Another accustation without proofs....

i just can post this :

Asked what type of rule the Taliban would impose if they took over again, Mujahid, who served his guests dry fruit and tea without sugar, said they would favor a "pure" Islamic system "that would be acceptable to all countries."
"We are not against female education. Once the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has come into power, we would make all arrangements to enable the females to get their education and would ensure all rights to the women, but within the framework of Islam," he said.
Mujahid said his supporters held French journalists Herve Ghesquiere and Stephane Taponier hostage in Afghanistan for a year and a half before they were released in June.

http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-taliban...095628275.html

can you provide proofs that she was killed for just showing her feets...

I am sure the Taliban never raped a single Hazara women when they went on their rampage to cleanse the Hazara villages of Shias.

i remember what bush said about the islamic emirate : let them smoke out, the islamic emirate smoked these shia hazara terrorists out,who wanted to make mischief in the lands of islam.

[Afghanistan2010]

Allahu Akbar*Allahu Akbar, people are killing themselves??*
How old are you??

Oh pardon mademoiselle,that you are happy i changed.
and im younger than you that can i promise you

[Soldat_Amir]

[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;536091]

Their depression comes from their war crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq,the children they have killed,the women they have raped and the innocents they have tortured for years.



Have you any proofs that Taliban were responsible for mosque,market or construction camps bombings without that Apostate napak soldiers or NATO terrorists and its allies were targeted ?
so show us that we can too hate them for their crimes.



Another accustation without proofs....

i just can post this :


http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-taliban...095628275.html

can you provide proofs that she was killed for just showing her feets...


i remember what bush said about the islamic emirate : let them smoke out, the islamic emirate smoked these shia hazara terrorists out,who wanted to make mischief in the lands of islam.

Lands of Islam? Shia Terrorists? I guess Iran should have pounded you much earlier when you were up to mischeif.

When you speak of mischief, the Taliban have been doing mischief for the ISI for a very long time.

As for Napak army, this goes to show your knowledge of the current situation, Most of the TTP are not Anti Pakistan, even Hakeemullah declared he would support Pakistan against India, even Baitullah declared the TTP would fight alongside this same Napak if India attacked after the Mumbai massacres.

Your still a child, and you want evidence?

Ive already written three articles on the topic, but if your still not satisifed, then you are in self denial.

I will get hold of that Nek Wazir video from GEO very soon, where he speaks of how lovely his love is for Pakistan and how the Taliban will defend Pakistan if India and America attacks.

Run along little child, you are just a infant who has no real knowledege nor any worth while experience in regards to the current affairs.

This video sums up the Taliban very well and who they are.



Now, we know for a fact, Catya Sher would never send her grand children to such a camp, but would support it while abroad.

You are the kind of chapusli down trotten degenerates with your land of this and land of that, non sense, that needs to be exterminated, sadly your probably living in Pakistan nor the West, so your living a protected life, and protected from abuse and kidnap, you bring turmoil to Afghanistan with your bigotted views and ways, you bring division into a land thats so diverse and beautiful, you work for other peoples agendas, and kill your own people for Pakistans ISI.

Look at the children on the video, your telling me they are naturally this brainwashed to go and blow themselves up?

You are a very lost cause, and I will leave it at that, hopefully one day you will wake up from your sleep and see who the Taliban truely are, that will only happen when the cockroach Mullah Omar(the Dajal) is dragged out of his hole in Pakistan.

Or what about this



Your telling me these people are of a sane mind?

Celebrating the murder of a Pashtun woman, dancing about with a dead body, hanging a dead body in a market, these are all Arab bedion customs, please migrate to Somalia, keep it away from Pashtun society!

[Afghanistan2010]

My friend you said : A woman was killed because,her feet were shown come back to this subject and show us proofs in which she was afterwards killed in a stadium.

[Afghanistan2010]

[QUOTE=Soldat_Amir;536098]

Lands of Islam? Shia Terrorists? I guess Iran should have pounded you much earlier when you were up to mischeif.!

The Islamic emirate has fought the iranian apostate army , 300 vs 120 000 soldiers during 1-week conflict in western Afghanistan.

Mullah Umar (hz) was asked how many taliban should be deployed to the border region in Herat,he said not more than 500 are enough for these shia terrorists.

In the successful operation the taliban captured several districts.

In another ambush in 2006/7, taliban supported this jundullah group to retaliate an attack triggered by border incrusion and rape cases from iranians , in which jundullah killed several iranian border guards and destroyed several buildings belonging to them.

As for Napak army, this goes to show your knowledge of the current situation, Most of the TTP are not Anti Pakistan, even Hakeemullah declared he would support Pakistan against India, even Baitullah declared the TTP would fight alongside this same Napak if India attacked after the Mumbai massacres.

The one has priority above the other,but the resent interviews by the TTP members said they would let Americans free hand to capture Pakistan and they would not take part in actions.

Your still a child, and you want evidence?

you should give evidence for what you say.

[NokiaWnW]

[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;536106]

The Islamic emirate has fought the iranian apostate army , 300 vs 120 000 soldiers during 1-week conflict in western Afghanistan.

Mullah Umar (hz) was asked how many taliban should be deployed to the border region in Herat,he said not more than 500 are enough for these shia terrorists.

In the successful operation the taliban captured several districts.

In another ambush in 2006/7, taliban supported this jundullah group to retaliate an attack triggered by border incrusion and rape cases from iranians , in which jundullah killed several iranian border guards and destroyed several buildings belonging to them.




The one has priority above the other,but the resent interviews by the TTP members said they would let Americans free hand to capture Pakistan and they would not take part in actions.




you should give evidence for what you say.

Did you smoke anything? Pure Taliban propaganda (lies!)

[Alchemist]

This is a thread about American veterans committing suicide bombing but soldat, the colonized patsy, has to divert attention towards taliban because he doesn't want us to talk about the reason why these guys kill themselves. Could it be guilt?

Everyday NATO kills dozens of pashtuns and branding them as "terrorists". And this Soldat spent 1 summer vacation in Waziristan and now he is the expert on taliban and terrorism. What BS.

[Catya Sher]

^ Yes.

Did I miss out when Soldat was revealed as a new identity of
Maseed - ?
I haven't been able to follow most discussions for some time,
so if he was already "outed" so to speak,
I am just catching up.

Aha, the summer in Waziristan mentioned above confirms my
increased suspicions about Sold-Out "amir"...

To go back to the subject,
can anyone imagine how any sane human being would FEEL after
having done these horrible deeds - whether on orders OR
free-lancing ?

Even the most hardened military or paramilitary personnel would
be likely to squash the memories down for possibly YEARS.
Drown them in drink, drugs, all evil pursuits.

Then they would creep back to haunt him [or her ].

The overall effect is the inability to function well of
a huge sector of American society:
veterans and those in their immediate circles.

For these guys probably get very abusive and blame their
wives or children, and beat them to try to eradicate
those most shameful deeds of theirs.
It's called : shifting the blame away, but by doing so,
creating a chain reaction.

Those who are attacked or yelled at will then be
less able to function and may take it out on others, in turn.

Bottom line: leave Afghanistan and all Middle Eastern countries
forever to avoid creating a never-ending cycle of evil.