Old and new mingle in Afghan Jirga

[Afghan_Soldier]

I am a Ghiljay Pashtun. I was born with a huge head.

You are a ghat saray hypocrite and a stubborn one too. Again relating yourself and giving primacy to your tribe. You were suppose to be a good muslim and Pashtun only. Da ghat sar sakha faida hum akhla.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Ok. Sangara!!!

Would you say you are more pro Taliban or Hekmatyar?

actually, I don't like Hizb at all. Never really liked them.

I prefer Taliban over any other group, not because I think they are the best solution for our problem. But because they are less evil than others. They were the only group that braught us peace. And disarmed warlords and made it safe for people to sleep at night not fearing of being robbed and butchered.

And today, I support their fight against America because Taliban never supported terrorist attacks against anyone. And they never supported Bin Laden. Bin Laden was under virtual house arrest in Afghanistan.

Taliban fight for our freedom from Americans. The Taliban might not be the smartest people nor are they qualified to bring positive change in the sense of progress and development. But at least, they are our own brothers and they are devout Muslims.

Unlike the *******s in Kabul who have blood on their hands.

[Afghan_Soldier]

Ok, I can have level of respect and I certainly have admiration for Hzeb i Islami, you turn out to be an ignorant boos-saray ignorant dark minded simplton, I am sorry but that is my view of you. Khfa nase.

What ever you commend Taliban for was also part of a foreign strategy to pacify any future resistence and control Afghanistan. Even monkeys could bring about the medieval rule Taliban established. Almost every one was depressed from the prevalent opperession from the zombies and the exemplars of your reason and principle, Mullah Sangara - no progress, no education, no health-care, backward 16th century outlook towards a 21st century world and the average life expectancy being 40. The list is too long. Have some shame, you don't mind to be the ****er being remote-controlled by ISI. You like to wish that for people in Afghanistan while you love your life in the infidel West.

[afghan]

non of the etthenic gruop is represented fairly. its just empty talk like always, 90% of karzais cabinet is illigal and warcriminals. the warlords and druglords are getting stronger and stronger every day. they twist every law to protect themselves.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Ok, I can have level of respect and I certainly have admiration for Hzeb i Islami, you turn out to be an ignorant boos-saray ignorant dark minded simplton, I am sorry but that is my view of you. Khfa nase.

What ever you commend Taliban for was also part of a foreign strategy to pacify any future resistence and control Afghanistan. Even monkeys could bring about the medieval rule Taliban established. Almost every one was depressed from the prevalent opperession from the zombies and the exemplars of your reason and principle, Mullah Sangara - no progress, no education, no health-care, backward 16th century outlook towards a 21st century world and the average life expectancy being 40. The list is too long. Have some shame, you don't mind to be the ****er being remote-controlled by ISI. You like to wish that for people in Afghanistan while you love your life in the infidel West.

Let me guess... you are Wardak, right?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Taliban government may have seemed good for some, but why ignore the real string pullers being the Pakistani ISI. Things may seem good at the time but as we all know, alot of these warlords turned on its master Pakistan, so what if Pakistan wanted the warlords to be dismantled and destroyed by using Taliban, as we all know ahmad shah masood, was once a ISI agent but he turned on Pakistan and actually burn down the Pakistani embassy in kabul, what if pakistan made taliban go against the warlords to secure its future interests, as we all know Taliban were openly supported and funded by Pakistani ISI, the likes of general baig and hamid gul and col imam are great examples of their supporters, and none of these guys brought nor supported any talib style laws on their own punjab or whole all Pakistan.Doesnt this give you any hints?

[Afghan_Soldier]

Let me guess... you are Wardak, right?

Where the heck did that come from? haha lol

Do I sound like Wardak to you, why did you guess that? Any way, relevance?! By the way, I am originally Kandaharay, but my family has lived in Kabul for some decades.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Where the heck did that come from? haha lol

Do I sound like Wardak to you, why did you guess that? Any way, relevance?! By the way, I am originally Kandaharay, but my family has lived in Kabul for some decades.

The way you defended Hekmatyar reminded of some of my Wardak friends. I thought you are one of them. They also follow gulo blindly. Aside from that, they are very good peoples

[Afghan_Soldier]

Taliban government may have seemed good for some, but why ignore the real string pullers being the Pakistani ISI. Things may seem good at the time but as we all know, alot of these warlords turned on its master Pakistan, so what if Pakistan wanted the warlords to be dismantled and destroyed by using Taliban, as we all know ahmad shah masood, was once a ISI agent but he turned on Pakistan and actually burn down the Pakistani embassy in kabul, what if pakistan made taliban go against the warlords to secure its future interests, as we all know Taliban were openly supported and funded by Pakistani ISI, the likes of general baig and hamid gul and col imam are great examples of their supporters, and none of these guys brought nor supported any talib style laws on their own punjab or whole all Pakistan.Doesnt this give you any hints?

Not only that, there is a whole lot evidence that Pakistan was systemetically trying to control Afghanistan. It was taking out and decapitating every sing Afghan nationalist and potential threat. Although this is my firm believe and my "imaan" that no power let alone a hindu state like Pakistan can control Afghanistan. But Taliban were certainly the dark period of Pashtun history and are only detrimental to our collective interests. They are only a bad luck.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Not only that, there is a whole lot evidence that Pakistan was systemetically trying to control Afghanistan. It was taking out and decapitating every sing Afghan nationalist and potential threat. Although this is my firm believe and my "imaan" that no power let alone a hindu state like Pakistan can control Afghanistan. But Taliban were certainly the dark period of Pashtun history and are only detrimental to our collective interests. They are only a bad luck.

Just wait and see. Hekmatyar will eventually side up with Karzai and Northern Alliance and fight against Taliban as soon as NATO leaves Afghanistan.

Which is exactly what he did in the 90's.

[Afghan_Soldier]

The way you defended Hekmatyar reminded of some of my Wardak friends. I thought you are one of them. They also follow gulo blindly. Aside from that, they are very good peoples

Not at all. But he is outcasted unfairly. He is surely not worse than Rabani, dOSTUM, Sayaf etc. The reason I started liking him is he has atleast principle and stance.

[Afghan_Soldier]

Just wait and see. Hekmatyar will eventually side up with Karzai and Northern Alliance and fight against Taliban as soon as NATO leaves Afghanistan.

Which is exactly what he did in the 90's.

Interesting observation, Sangara. Can you substantiate your claim.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Sangar hekmatyar changed he now is allys with Taliban fighting against the USA

I am not too sure. We'll see in the future what he is going to do. I swear if he switches sides again and joins Northern Alliance & Karzai he will definately loose allot of support he re-gain recently after American invasion.

People don't like seeing leaders siding with those criminals.

[Afghan_Soldier]

Sangar hekmatyar changed he now is allys with Taliban fighting against the USA

Last time I checked Talban were bad-mouthing him and ruling out any alliance with him. They had waged deadly battle against each other in Baghlan province which ensued for about a week. So where do you get that?

[شمله ور خراساني]

Interesting observation, Sangara. Can you substantiate your claim.

Haven't you read his 15 point proposition? He accepts the secular constitution Americans made for Afghanistan and he wants a coalition government with northern alliance.

This already shows where to he is inclined.