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    Canadian imam beaten, arrested in Saudi Arabia

    October 30, 2011 00:10:00
    Liam Casey
    STAFF REPORTER
    Religious police officers beat and arrested a Canadian imam after he recited prayers at a graveyard while on pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia, witnesses said.

    Usama Al-Atar, 33, of Edmonton read religious passages to a small group of travellers from Canada, the U.S. and Europe after morning prayers at the Prophet’s Mosque in Medina around 6 a.m. Sunday.

    Michael Hayward, a British citizen who was part of the group, said a religious police officer watching over the mosque told Al-Atar to lower his voice.

    “He was reading to about 10 of us, so he lowered his voice and we crowded close together,” Hayward said. “But the officer wasn’t happy and told us to leave, which we did.”

    As the group walked toward the exit of the plaza, the same officer yelled, “Thief!”

    The officer pointed at Al-Atar, Hayward said. And then a slew of citizens jumped the Canadian and pinned him to the ground.

    “Then the religious police held (Al-Atar) down by the neck and (tried to) strangle him,” Hayward said. “He turned blue and red before they finally stopped.”

    A few minutes later, the city police arrived and took the imam to the central station in Medina, Hayward said, allegedly for breaking the same officer’s arm.

    “This is just a lie — Usama (Al-Atar) didn’t do anything,” Hayward said.

    Saudi Arabia’s religious police largely belong to the Sunni Muslim sect and discriminate against Shiite Muslims, Hayward said. Members of Al-Atar’s group are Shiites.

    The Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada is aware of the arrest.

    “The Canadian Embassy in Riyadh has been notified and stands ready to provide consular assistance as required,” said spokeswoman Aliya Mawani in an email, but she wouldn’t discuss the incident further “due to privacy considerations.”

    Al-Atar’s friends in Canada are disturbed by the incident and worried for his safety. Al-Atar is a post-doctoral fellow at the University of Alberta where he researches solar cells and nanotechnology.

    Jeffrey Murphy, who sits beside him in their lab in Edmonton, said he was worried about Al-Atar’s family. The imam’s pregnant wife and 3-year-old daughter remained in Canada.

    “He’s a good family man, devout and helpful and friendly,” Murphy said with a quavering voice. “He’s a very Canadian guy.”

    Murphy said Al-Atar makes the hajj pilgrimage every year and hasn’t had problems on any of his six previous visits.

    “He always comes back joyful and refreshed,” Murphy said. “Maybe not this time, though.”

    The U.K.-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, which is lobbying for Al-Atar’s release, demanded Saudi authorities let him go immediately. The commission has procured a lawyer for the imam’s 8 a.m. hearing Monday, where he’s expected to be formally charged with assault.

    The commission’s Massoud Shadjareh said tensions are high in Saudi Arabia because of the Arab uprising.

    “I don’t think this had anything to do with one man,” Shadjareh said. “This is because of religious and narrow-minded reasons.”

    Shadjareh has been in contact with the British embassy in Saudi Arabia, but said he hasn’t been able to get in touch with any Canadian authorities yet.

    Shadjareh said he’s hearing rumours about Al-Atar — that authorities have sent him to a psychiatrist because they suspect he’s mentally disturbed — and is worried that the Canadian won’t be treated well unless the government steps in.

    “The imam needs someone from the Canadian government at his hearing (Monday),” an exasperated Shadjareh said. “Where are the Canadian authorities?”

    With files from The Canadian Press




    thestar.com iPhone : Canadian imam beaten, arrested in Saudi Arabia

    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

  • #2
    "religious police"

    Lol

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    • #3

      I once got into trouble at a saudi airport with one of their dogs talking down to my friend as if she was an animal. At the end when I asked for the security camera stuff to be brought up, they told me that their cameras take photographs only. International airport security cameras taking photographs only....obviously they didn't know who they were dealing with. But yeah, when I am there, it doesn't feel like I am in an Islamic country at all.

      I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

      non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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      • #4
        What do you expect, it was not long ago, they beat/arrested the public for helping school girls running out of a burning building, they were then thrown back into the burning building because their clothes were revealing as they were burnt.

        This is the same Saudi Arabia, who stated its justified for Qadafi to be killed, protests to be held in the Arab world expect in Saudi Araiba where they stated was Unislamic.

        They are two faced hypocrites

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        • #5
          What's the point of having a canadian citizenship?
          If it was some white guy the embassy would be all over the sauides.

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          • #6
            Well being an imaam he should know better even if you believe that commiting shirk or praying to graves is correct, why think he should get away with it, after all its illegal in the country. when i was there all i saw was swarms of Iranian shia men in there shirt and trousers barging into people leading their own congregational prayers outside the masjid of the prophet because the 'wahabbi' imaam wasnt worthy enough, i can remeber thinking "these pests need a good kick in"
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            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

            Originally posted by Karachi
            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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            • #7

              So what ? It's okay for Shias to spit at us while we walk down the street? Or the Hindus to refer to us as dirty Muslims?? Where does that take us??If you don't have it in you to respect someone for what they are then try respecting them for what you are. Some of you think way too highly of yourselves. It's only wrong when it happens to you..

              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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              • #8
                what respect can you have for someone that doesnt respect your laws. I tell you come along bring your friends, bring your family but just dont pray to graves, and what do you do? you come along and start praying to graves.
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                *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                Originally posted by Karachi
                like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post

                  I once got into trouble at a saudi airport with one of their dogs talking down to my friend as if she was an animal. At the end when I asked for the security camera stuff to be brought up, they told me that their cameras take photographs only. International airport security cameras taking photographs only....obviously they didn't know who they were dealing with. But yeah, when I am there, it doesn't feel like I am in an Islamic country at all.
                  ive had similar experience with these idiots..they treat u like dirt over there
                  It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                  • #10

                    The very same can be said about you. It's only a matter of perspective. In the attempt of bringing others on the right path make sure you dont wander off to the wrong one yourself. What is worse? What is more shameful? A person who had never had the chance to understand Islam or one who had been lead but wondered off to the wrong path anyways? Even*God gives people a chance till the day of judgment to redeem themselves. Who the hell do you think you are?

                    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                      What do you expect, it was not long ago, they beat/arrested the public for helping school girls running out of a burning building, they were then thrown back into the burning building because their clothes were revealing as they were burnt.

                      This is the same Saudi Arabia, who stated its justified for Qadafi to be killed, protests to be held in the Arab world expect in Saudi Araiba where they stated was Unislamic.

                      They are two faced hypocrites
                      Good little lie yet again communist. I have lived in KSA and I have never heard that story. Maybe you can post some sources?

                      He commited shirk and should know better when he is a guest in the Holy Cities. Shia's often do those things Manzareh mentions when in KSA but they are dealt with correctly.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Talal View Post
                        ive had similar experience with these idiots..they treat u like dirt over there

                        I just felt bad for the girl with me. She was traveling outside Afghanistan for the first time so you can imagine you confused or scared she must have been. But I am so grateful to God that I wasn't with a family member or my brother/father.*It would have ended up getting so ugly.

                        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by al-arab View Post
                          Good little lie yet again communist. I have lived in KSA and I have never heard that story. Maybe you can post some sources?

                          He commited shirk and should know better when he is a guest in the Holy Cities. Shia's often do those things Manzareh mentions when in KSA but they are dealt with correctly.
                          what is this?? Perhaps you hypocrites could fix your own people first before you come to preach religion and righteousness to the rest of us. I was trying to learn Arabic when I came across this the other day.
                          Jamil Male Belly dancer - YouTube

                          I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                          non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                            what is this?? Perhaps you hypocrites could fix your own people first before you come to preach religion and righteousness to the rest of us. I was trying to learn Arabic when I came across this the other day.
                            Jamil Male Belly dancer - YouTube
                            What is the point of your message?

                            People need to understand that they are guests and need to obey the rules, especially when visiting our two most holy cities. I was not there when the episode happened I am only saying that I have seen the same behaviour from Shia pilgrims in KSA as Manzareh describes.

                            Do you support his shrik action?

                            Well, I am sorry for your bad experience in KSA. There are also bad Muslims in KSA as in every Muslim country.

                            I see no point in spreading lies again, as communist-amir does every single time the word Arab is mentioned and as you do know.

                            Why do you provocate people? Do you like it? What are you trying to gain with it? Why do you generalize everyone? Would you be happy if a foreigner insulted your race or spreaded lies?

                            Aks you those question and return. If you are not able to answer it then this is pointless and waste of time I am afraid.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by al-arab View Post
                              What is the point of your message?

                              People need to understand that they are guests and need to obey the rules, especially when visiting our two most holy cities. I was not there when the episode happened I am only saying that I have seen the same behaviour from Shia pilgrims in KSA as Manzareh describes.
                              Do you support his shrik action?
                              Well, I am sorry for your bad experience in KSA. There are also bad Muslims in KSA as in every Muslim country.
                              I see no point in spreading lies again, as communist-amir does every single time the word Arab is mentioned and as you do know.
                              Why do you provocate people? Do you like it? What are you trying to gain with it? Why do you generalize everyone? Would you be happy if a foreigner insulted your race or spreaded lies?
                              Aks you those question and return. If you are not able to answer it then this is pointless and waste of time I am afraid.


                              I don't think his "shirk" gives anyone the right to call him a thief or choke him till he is green and then accuse him of having broken someone's arm and then throw him in jail and declare him insane.*
                              I would enjoy having a honest godless person exposing truth about the filth that is spread around in the world by my own muslim brothers and sisters than have a super religious self proclaimed Muslim creep assuring me of the virtues of my people when I myself *don't know its whereabouts.*
                              I dot enjoy generalizing but I sure as hell do enjoy screaming filth when I see it.*
                              Muslim or no Muslim, filth is what a hypocrite measures up to. That is what you and that al khabis are. Filth.


                              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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