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  • #16
    Originally posted by Arevapasht View Post
    Dear Comrad, I am sure that America had its dirty fingers in the SU's Afghanistan war.
    But do You really think SU is not to blame on what they did?
    I can even agree again, they may have had even the highest intentions - but was what they did correct?
    Every Russian almost judges the cruel Afghanistan politics of the SU.
    Its enough to go on a market and ask the older people.
    At the moment Afghanistan dislikes Russia. Because of the Americans. Americans made Afghanistan and Russia split up so Russia just stays there and does not interfer with Americas problems. America setup a base in Afghanistan because of the global position. Afghanistan is the edge of Asia. It is close to Pakistan and China. They just spy on other countries.

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    • #17
      Vopervyx ne GRUBI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Vo vtoryx - ty sam ne vyrajaeshsya kak dljno, a Ya ne russkij chto by idealno govorit !

      Second - if You see a boody war as something strong I am sorry.
      Stalin was cruel and not brave - he never was fighting directly- he was the Mafia prototype of many Georgian criminal authorities - they behave same way.
      Orjonikidze was quiet more honest and brave ....
      Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
      Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

      Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
      Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

      Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
      Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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      • #18
        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
        lol
        and saying to me i have no knowledge whatsoever.
        Qadafi was a patriot and certainly not a communist.

        afghanistan and russia were never with eachother and russia was an invading force on the remaining of muslim empire after it fell.
        from one side it was the british empire and from the other it was the russian empire.Both of these empires worked in an orchesterated fashion like they also did at the time of ww2 against germany.

        both had their ugly eye on Afghanistan and both got their eye stabbed.

        russians thought they are superior and could capture Afghanistan liek they did to tajikistan uzbekistan etc but look what happend to them,the same goes for american empire in which russia is included.
        In the past there were two empires. America and Russia. Russia had all Asia and including some East European countries. And America had the rest. It was like West versus East. Russia and Afghanistan were good allys that time. But when America set off to Asia they landed at Afghanistan first. They made them split. Afghanistan had many oilfields. America has taken every litre of oil from Afghanistan and abandoned the oilfields. There are many military camps in Afghanistan. They use Afghanistan to spy on other countries.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Russian Comrad View Post
          At the moment Afghanistan dislikes Russia. Because of the Americans. Americans made Afghanistan and Russia split up so Russia just stays there and does not interfer with Americas problems. America setup a base in Afghanistan because of the global position. Afghanistan is the edge of Asia. It is close to Pakistan and China. They just spy on other countries.
          I think Afghanistan has why to dislike Russia -we do not dislike Russia because we never had that kind of war with Russia - but it is normal that after what happened their is no positive feeling for Russia, even if Russias people surely have no bad intentions towards the government- but what did the SU?
          Even if it should have been for positive reasons - was that right?
          Do You really believe that was the right way ?
          Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
          Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

          Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
          Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

          Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
          Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Russian Comrad View Post
            In the past there were two empires. America and Russia. Russia had all Asia and including some East European countries. And America had the rest. It was like West versus East. Russia and Afghanistan were good allys that time. But when America set off to Asia they landed at Afghanistan first. They made them split. Afghanistan had many oilfields. America has taken every litre of oil from Afghanistan and abandoned the oilfields. There are many military camps in Afghanistan. They use Afghanistan to spy on other countries.
            So You see Afghanistan only as a country for Russias tactical needs?
            Good alies change cuture, like their music, tend to have friendship.
            Politics has not do do with the peoples - its a cruel game of interests that ruins lifes of simple people who die for the dirty minds of weak cowards!
            Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
            Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

            Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
            Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

            Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
            Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Russian Comrad View Post
              In the past there were two empires. America and Russia. Russia had all Asia and including some East European countries. And America had the rest. It was like West versus East. Russia and Afghanistan were good allys that time. But when America set off to Asia they landed at Afghanistan first. They made them split. Afghanistan had many oilfields. America has taken every litre of oil from Afghanistan and abandoned the oilfields. There are many military camps in Afghanistan. They use Afghanistan to spy on other countries.
              you are on some blind russian ****.

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              • #22
                At the moment Afghanistan is weak, they can do nothing. Even if they leave the country there would be snipers everywhere. Only people to help them are the Russians, their old ally. Afghanistan is known as a dangerous place to live. Because of the Americans.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                  you are on some blind russian ****.
                  Stop being a a$shole and start to understand peoples views and opinions.

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                  • #24
                    He's a troll but at least he's funny. Sort of like a comic book character.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Zmarak View Post
                      He's a troll but at least he's funny. Sort of like a comic book character.
                      Shut up. I am no troll you fool.
                      I am just trying to explain my views and you fools say I am trolling?

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                      • #26
                        even though this guy is obviously not a russian but lol @ russians. hopefully the chechens burn down moscow someday.
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                        • #27
                          He is De Kunar Ghro

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                          • #28
                            A few realistic points about Gaddafi:
                            1. Let us not forget history. It was Italy that occupied Libya and corralled its people like Cattle in concentration camps. The true hero of Libya was Omar Mukhtar.
                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Mukhtar

                            He led a native resistance against the Italians and died for his cause. In fact both sides, the "Senussi" Benghazi faction and Gaddafi's faction appealed to his image to sanctify their rule.

                            King Idris and his faction were pro Western and Gaddafi come to power to emulate Nasser to implement secular Arab nationalism at all costs.

                            2. Gaddafi went on to assume that Pan Arab Nationalism, in the stylings of DeGamal would lead the Arabs toward greatness. He suppressed all voices of dissent, religious, secular, and the like. He sent hit squads abroad to kill innocent Libyans as well.
                            *Davis, Brian Lee (1990). Qaddafi, Terrorism, and the Origins of the U.S. Attack on Libya. New York

                            3. He was an opportunist who also forged new relationships with M16 and CIA when it suited him and tortured families sent to him for the task:
                            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...fi-prison.html

                            4. This does not take away from an honest assessment on him, which is that he did stay, and unlike Najib, hiding like a dog in his UN sanctioned house, he led a resistance from Sirte.

                            Basically, Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein are on the same boat.

                            Saddam, for years, at the US's behest viciously attacked Iran and killed many Iranians and many Iraqis and then they let him walk himself into Kuwait. Gaddafi was really no different.

                            Whatever the benefit for the Western Powers which have interevened again in a world that they should have stayed out of... they still demonstrate an ability to use and abuse their puppets (Ben Ali, Gaddafi, Mubarak, Assad, etc) who end up being eaten alive by their own people.

                            Contrast this with the end of Mukhtar and other brave heroes who died at the hands of their enemies, not surrendered over by the populace.
                            Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 10-26-2011, 07:42 PM.
                            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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