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    Iran sentences U.S. hikers to 8 years in jail - CBS News
    Last Updated 11:30 a.m. ET
    TEHRAN - Two American men arrested more than two years ago while hiking along the Iraq-Iran border have been sentenced to eight years in prison for espionage and illegally entering Iran, state TV reported Saturday.
    The announcement appeared to dash hopes for the imminent release of Shane Bauer and Josh Fattal after Iran's foreign minister suggested earlier this month that the trial could clear the way for their freedom.
    It also could bring added tensions to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's expected visit to New York next month for the annual general assembly at the United Nations.
    The Americans, whose final court hearing was three weeks ago, deny the charges and say they were only hiking in a scenic and largely peaceful area of northern Iraq near the porous border.
    The two men were detained in July 2009 along with a third American, Sarah Shourd, who was released in September 2010 on $500,000 bail and returned to the United States.
    Shourd's case "is still open," the website irinn.ir reported.
    Bauer and Fattal, who are both 29, have been sentenced to three years each for illegal entry into Iran and five years each for spying for the United States, the website quoted "informed sources" at Iran's judiciary as saying. It was not immediately clear if that includes time served. They have 20 days to appeal the sentence.
    Their Iranian attorney, Masoud Shafiei, said he has not been notified of the verdict but he will definitely appeal the sentence if true.
    "I've not been notified of any verdict in the case of my clients," Shafiei told The Associated Press. "This is a strong verdict inconsistent with the charges."
    The Americans say they mistakenly crossed into Iran when they stepped off a dirt road while hiking near a waterfall. While other parts of Iraq remain troubled by violence, the semiautonomous Kurdish north has drawn tourists in recent years, including foreigners.
    The case has added to tensions between the United States and Iran that were already high over other issues, including Tehran's disputed nuclear program.
    The U.S. government has appealed for the two men to be released, insisting that they have done nothing wrong. The two countries have no direct diplomatic relations, so Washington has been relying on an interests section at the Swiss Embassy in Tehran to follow the case.
    Earlier this month, Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi said he hoped "the trial of the two American defendants who were detained for the crime of illegally entering Iran will finally lead to their freedom." Their lawyer also had expressed hope they might receive a pardon for the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
    Phone and email messages left for Sarah Shourd, relatives of the two men and the families' spokeswoman Samantha Topping were not immediately returned.
    Shourd is back living in Oakland, California; Bauer grew up in Onamia, Minnesota; and Fattal is from suburban Philadelphia.
    The last direct contact family members had with Bauer and Fattal was in May 2010 when their mothers were permitted a short visit in Tehran.
    To mark the second anniversary of their detention, U.S. State Department spokesman Mark Toner urged Iran to free the Americans.
    "Shane and Josh have been imprisoned too long, and it is time to reunite them with their families," Toner said.
    Last edited by Guest; 08-20-2011, 01:17 PM.

  • #2
    Nobody in the know believes that they "wandered" into this incredibly dangerous place
    for their "vacation" -
    all 3, I heard, are Jewish and maybe spies for Mossad.

    Who knows the truth?
    But anyone with a modicum of common sense would never

    be wandering in that highly
    volatile border area. It wasn't set up as a hiking trail.
    The fact that they chose THAT area to meander through is
    very suspicious : they could have been reconnoitering for Mossad
    and/or other agencies looking all innocent if caught.

    Further the US has held for a couple years now an Iranian
    woman treated SO BADLY without any due process of law whatsoever,
    that surely US authorities could use their brains and figure it's
    a good chance to trade the 2 hikers for this Shahrzad
    and another Iranian held without any real reason
    in America.
    I'm sure there are many.

    Press Tv did an incredibly good documentary on Shahrazad
    Nov. 4 2010. Look it up if interested.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
      Nobody in the know believes that they "wandered" into this incredibly dangerous place
      for their "vacation" -
      all 3, I heard, are Jewish and maybe spies for Mossad.

      Who knows the truth?
      But anyone with a modicum of common sense would never

      be wandering in that highly
      volatile border area. It wasn't set up as a hiking trail.
      The fact that they chose THAT area to meander through is
      very suspicious : they could have been reconnoitering for Mossad
      and/or other agencies looking all innocent if caught.

      Further the US has held for a couple years now an Iranian
      woman treated SO BADLY without any due process of law whatsoever,
      that surely US authorities could use their brains and figure it's
      a good chance to trade the 2 hikers for this Shahrzad
      and another Iranian held without any real reason
      in America.
      I'm sure there are many.

      Press Tv did an incredibly good documentary on Shahrazad
      Nov. 4 2010. Look it up if interested.
      yeah I agree with you, Iran should trade them in for Shahrzad Mir-Qolikhan and the other innocent women aswell, If US disagree then just hang them.
      its about time someone stick up to this terrorist nation of America

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      • #4
        Thanks for speaking up, Master Khan, I appreciate that !

        This stance of the US government "We don't negotiate with terrorists "
        is so sanctimonious.

        At the minimum, it benefits NO ONE on the face of the earth.
        At the other end of the spectrum, one could bring all the massacres of
        approx 1 million Iraqis and how many hundred thousand Afghans
        and neighboring Pakistan Tribal Area residents
        to argue that the US should drop this
        Victim - Martyr Complex of being
        the World's Biggest Long-Suffering Saint.
        When in fact the Devil is the instigator
        American foreign activities in this current era,
        causing terrible suffering to limitless numbers
        around the world.

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        • #5
          they probably are just idiot hikers.

          the west doesn't need white agents who wander into iranian territory when they can just buy off iranians who do their work for them. the high profile killings of iranian scientists being one example which are done by iranian agents working for the cia and/or mossad.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • #6
            Iran need a war like Afghanistan ,I hope I see it in my life time.
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Niazi View Post
              Iran need a war like Afghanistan ,I hope I see it in my life time.
              And I hope that you are made to serve on the front lines in both this war and that one! Learn to use a gun Niazi, because chicken hawks rarely know how to fight wars.
              "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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              • #8
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                they probably are just idiot hikers.

                the west doesn't need white agents who wander into iranian territory when they can just buy off iranians who do their work for them. the high profile killings of iranian scientists being one example which are done by iranian agents working for the cia and/or mossad.
                why are they hiking in such a dangerous part of the world?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  why are they hiking in such a dangerous part of the world?
                  because they are stupid white people who want an "adventure"

                  didnt they cross over from kurdistan? that place is extremely safe compared to the rest of iraq.
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    nobody is that stupid, there is something fishy about these people.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                      because they are stupid white people who want an "adventure"

                      didnt they cross over from kurdistan? that place is extremely safe compared to the rest of iraq.
                      That is equivalent to three random white people hiking in the Korengal valley. The only whites in that part are soldiers/spies.

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                      • #12
                        well there already have been foreign tourists climbing afgs largest mountain over the last few years.



                        theres nothing that 3 nerdy looking hippie hikers/agents could do hiking into iran that already established iranian double agents and advanced satellites couldnt do.
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                          well there already have been foreign tourists climbing afgs largest mountain over the last few years.



                          theres nothing that 3 nerdy looking hippie hikers/agents could do hiking into iran that already established iranian double agents and advanced satellites couldnt do.
                          So what was Raymond Davis doing, if he wasnt needed and could have been replaced by ordinary pakistani to do his work.
                          Why does the US military need Afghan-American interpreters, why dont they just hire the local afghans there or better yet just have some software do the interpreting.

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                          • #14
                            i read an article saying they are jewish but were protesters against israel, apparently working in the middle east and their activities very suspicious. supposedly asking a local for directions to iran, starting their hike at 10pm etc. but i can't see what hiking around in the mountains would help them learn that a spy plane or satellite wouldn't be able to show. hiking in that area, like i saw in photos, would have had a lot of limitations.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by faye View Post
                              i read an article saying they are jewish but were protesters against israel, apparently working in the middle east and their activities very suspicious. supposedly asking a local for directions to iran, starting their hike at 10pm etc. but i can't see what hiking around in the mountains would help them learn that a spy plane or satellite wouldn't be able to show. hiking in that area, like i saw in photos, would have had a lot of limitations.
                              Usually spys go into a country as journalists or diplomats or Aid workers. Iran and America don't have such a diplomatic relationship and Iran does not allow American Jounalists into the country so this was the alternate route.

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