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    Another NATO copter shot down in east Afghan province of Paktia

    these two titles are from the PressTV update alert

    Another NATO copter shot down in east Afghan province of Paktia

    Taliban claim 33 US soldiers killed in second downing of helicopter



    '2nd crash kills 33 US Afghan force'
    Mon Aug 8, 2011 7:21AM GMT

    PressTV - '2nd crash kills 33 US Afghan force'


    A second helicopter belonging to the US-led NATO coalition has crashed in Paktia Province in eastern Afghanistan, killing 33 US forces on board.


    Taliban Spokesman Zabihullah Mojahid claimed responsibility for the crash, which occured in Zarmat city on Monday, saying 33 American troops were killed in the downing, a Press TV correspondent reported on Monday.

    Separately, another NATO chopper made a hard landing in the same area in eastern Paktia province late Sunday, Afghan witnesses and officials told Press TV.

    The US-led NATO forces have cordoned off the scene of the incident, witnesses said.

    The incident has reportedly left some casualties, but there are no words yet on the exact number of the killed or injured.

    The main cause of the incident is not clear yet.

    Meanwhile, the US-led alliance issued a statement and confirmed that the helicopter made an emergency landing. The statement said no one was injured and that it has launched an investigation into the incident.

    The incident came in the wake of a similar incident on Saturday, which claimed lives of 31 US forces.

    Taliban claimed responsibility for Saturday helicopter crash, but NATO said it has started an investigation into the incident.

    AO/MB/HRF
    Last edited by Guest; 08-08-2011, 02:51 PM.
    Tags: afghan, copter, east, nato, paktia, province, shot
  • #2
    which one? either "33 have died" or "but there are no words yet on the exact number of the killed or injured"?
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    • #3
      PressTv has already posted this up. I guess what is clear is that another copter has been shot down.

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      • #4
        Another NATO Chopper Shot Down in Afghanistan

        Another NATO Chopper Shot Down in Afghanistan

        Monday, 08 August 2011 16:08 Source: Prensa Latina



        Guantanamo (Solvision).- Afghan rebel forces claimed responsibility for the shooting down of another NATO Chinook transport helicopter, in the province of Paktia, killing more than 30 people.

        According to reports made public in this capital, sources of the Taliban also informed about more than 30 armed actions taking place in the localities in Injee, Babaji, Terenkot and Shahjo, where military Chief, Tila Muhammad, was killed.

        NATO Sources noted that the causes of the Chinook event are still being investigated.

        According to data published by Kali Yuga news agency, the rebels have brought down nearly 17 helicopters of different types, used mainly to launch rockets.

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        • #5
          the headline says 33 soldiers dead, then the news says there might be some casualties then at the end it says the helicopter wasn't shot down..it crash landed

          what was this author smokin
          It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Talal View Post
            the headline says 33 soldiers dead, then the news says there might be some casualties then at the end it says the helicopter wasn't shot down..it crash landed

            what was this author smokin
            so far, whenever a claim has been made, it has been confirmed. The ISAF/NATO has confirmed an incident, but has declined to comment. It appears that another Karzai press conference may happen.

            Read last part below about cover-ups. Since the Saturday event where the chopper was shot down, 3 more choppers have "crashed" aka been shot down.

            Afghan History Haunts NATO | Indian Decade
            Afghan History Haunts NATO

            August 8, 2011By Sanjay Kumar



            The recent uptick in Taliban attacks in Afghanistan is a reminder of the uphill struggle foreign forces face there.

            Image credit:US Army

            In an indication of the direction the tide is turning in Afghanistan, a place often dubbed the graveyard of empires, NATO last week suffered what The Guardian described as ‘the biggest single loss of life for US forces in Afghanistan since operations began in 2001.’
            According to reports, insurgents shot down a NATO helicopter in the eastern province of Maidan Wardak, killing 38 people, including 31 US Special Forces. A US-led coalition spokesperson has confirmed that the chopper was shot down with a rocket-propelled grenade by Taliban forces as their hideout was raided.
            The attack is only the clearest example of the surge in violence across Afghanistan just as US and NATO troops are planning a modest drawdown of troops in the near future. The intensification of violence is expected to exacerbate growing concern inside and outside the country over the possibility that Afghanistan will slide into chaos once international troops leave Kabul in 2014.

            The uptick in attacks appears to have occurred following the US announcement of a partial withdrawal of its soldiers. As noted by the National Interest, the past couple of months have seen a number of high-profile Afghans being targeted, including Gen. Mohammed Daud Daud, commander of interior ministry forces in northern Afghanistan, Ahmad Wali Karzai, President Hamid Karzai’s half-brother and chairman of the Kandahar provincial council and Jan Mohammad Khan, the former governor of Uruzgan Province and a close friend and ally of Karzai. Just last week, a suicide bomber claimed the life of Kandahar Mayor Ghulam Haider Hamidi.
            There’s a method in the Taliban’s method: it’s trying to destroy the credibility of the international forces and the Afghan government, and demonstrate to the world that despite NATO’s claims it has the upper hand, the Taliban actually holds sway over large areas of Afghanistan. They are, in effect, trying to challenge the widely publicized narrative of greater security in Afghanistan, and rubbish the idea that Afghan forces are going to be able to assume responsibility for security once coalition troops leave the country.
            So why the persistent violence? The National Interest blames the estranged relationship between Afghanistan and Pakistan, noting Islamabad’s ‘policy of support for the insurgents and opposition to US and Afghan policies despite its statements to the contrary’ and ‘Pakistan’s complicity in the recent assassinations.’ It also blames Iran for continuing to support those opposing the United States—perhaps in coordination with Islamabad—without fear of any consequences.
            Whatever the reasons, the United States seems to be staring at the same fate the Soviet Union met in the 1980s.
            Portable Stinger missile systems provided by the United States to the Mujahideen and UK-supplied Blowpipe weapons paralysed the operations of the Russian troops in Afghanistan, contributing to the humiliation of the Red Army. Now, according to The Guardian, ‘NATO forces have intercepted so-called Manpads, or man-portable air defence systems, illegally smuggled from Iran and there have been recorded incidents when they have been used.’
            The paper also quoted a WikiLeaks cable saying that last year, the US military covered up a reported surface-to-air missile strike that downed a Chinook helicopter over Helmand, killing seven soldiers.
            History seems to be haunting international troops once again.
            Last edited by Guest; 08-08-2011, 08:03 PM.

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            • #7
              If their not shot down, they need better engineers constructing these choppers. America is paying top notch for these choppers which are crashing, because of engine failures.

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              • #8
                ^ Chinook might be a beast but because of two rotors if it gets unbalanced game over man..their landing is a nightmare of its own
                It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                • #9
                  Seriously, no one believes the "crash" BS otherwise you would have had the same "trend" happening in Iraq.

                  Clear case of a cover up. BTW, this is not a new development in Afghanistan. There have been several "crashes" over the year. I guess "crashes" only happen in Afghanistan, and not other places.

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                  • #10
                    ^ Actually there are tons of landing problems with chinooks .. I've had a group project about this mammoth's landing problem .. The problem in Afghanistan is that the terrain isnt suitable at all to chinooks and they are sitting (or rather flying ducks..actually flying ducks are quite agile so les just go with really fat flying ducks) flying over civilian territory
                    It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                    • #11
                      whatever , "crashes" - a cover story. There are also Apaches and Blackhawks.

                      Fact is it is not even news, Karzai just made a press conference
                      Last edited by Guest; 08-09-2011, 07:26 AM.

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                      • #12
                        why is this not in the news??

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                        • #13
                          It has been confirmed. 2 choppers "crashed" aka downed on Monday, but the US/ISAF has refused to comment any further. I posted some of the articles which show this

                          I think they are trying to do a black out on this type of news.

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                          • #14
                            LOL @ crash

                            Chinook Crash-Lands in Afghanistan - Technorati Politics

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                            • #15
                              I guess NATO can't seem to land a Copter

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