pakistan army robbing houses in swat?

[afghan]

does any one from swat know if its true that paki army men has robbed the houses in swat of some influential politicians, including the house of miagul Aurangzeb? can some one find the sources.

[emkhan]

Yes i am from swat and Yes they are involved in more illegal and ill mannered activities there. even worst than the so called taliban. But no media, no politician, even nobody can open their mouths against them.
I wish the so called human rights activists could spoke against but they would never do.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

EMkhan the problem is that if people speak against them, the locals stay quiet and the basic answer is "So what? The army is better than the taliban..." It is a very weird situation.

[emkhan]

Dear you don't know who Taliban were. They army men in the dress of the taliban.
but this army has outclassed them in robbing, kidnapping, shame, corruption, extra judicial killings and so many other activities.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Dear you don't know who Taliban were. They army men in the dress of the taliban.
but this army has outclassed them in robbing, kidnapping, shame, corruption, extra judicial killings and so many other activities.

Khaana I am well aware of these things and this wasn't only in swat, it was all over Pashtunkhwa. Army/ISI altha dder zyaathee karrae daa. However, don't you think our people are at fault? We are complaining yet even today I know many swatiyaan blindly supporting them. Pa yaw lass prrakae na keegee wrora. If they are happening even today, then what is to be done...because some people of our areas are justifying the state...yes or no?

[emkhan]

No dear, i can't blame the general public for this because there is a reason behind this.
Actually general people are not that aware of the games of the elites. Look the govt and secret agencies can do anything they want. They can mend people's minds the direction they want because they have the intelligence, they have the resources, they have the media power and so many other reason. Look we have to understand that the secret agencies always use people and then betray them and it is not only in the religion case, they do it even with the secular people and parties. Do you know today, ISI is using ANP in karachi against the MQM though ANP is said to be the real opponents of ISI and army but still they are being used there. MQM was used in musharraf regime, PMLQ was used in musharraf regime... so i want to say that you can not blame general public, the main responsibles are the isi and others.
Look, when a suicider blown himself and kill people so people does not curse him more than the head of the organistion.... so fazlullah used to be more cursed than the suicider because people considered him the real creator so in the same way ISI and army is to be blamed.
Believe me if ISI and army does not want, even a fly can not enter pakistan but it all was done by them for so many reasons....
If people were that intelligent and aware then they would never vote such dirty filthy people again and again.
secret agencies and army do everything from behind and give bad name to others.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

So what do you suggest should be done?

[emkhan]

I think that army generals, ISI heads and politicians and beaurocrats should be hanged publicly and even stoned to death. Because these elites protect each others. politicians protects army and army protects agencies and agencies protect beaurocracy and beaurocracy protect govt and this a cycle.
But innocents are killed in the middle, some in the name of religion, others in the name ethnicity, in the name politics, in the name of democracy, in the name of secularism.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Well then don't you a new future should be forged for Pashtuns outside the paradigm of this state?

[emkhan]

It is not more than a day dream... In pashtuns there is no such will and such leader who could dare to stand up. They cant even open their mouths.
Only talking on internet will never make it possible.
We need a leader who could drive the people the way fazlullah did in swat.
But we can not have such leader and such will because My pashtuns are at this side are playing in the hands of ISI i mean ANP and pashtuns at your side are under the umbrella of USA and India.
We need a pure pashtun WILL and leadership.
We cant afford any type of interference. Because we have our own style and our own mizaaj

[BLS_1919v2.0]

It is not more than a day dream... In pashtuns there is no such will and such leader who could dare to stand up. They cant even open their mouths.
Only talking on internet will never make it possible.
We need a leader who could drive the people the way fazlullah did in swat.
But we can not have such leader and such will because My pashtuns are at this side are playing in the hands of ISI i mean ANP and pashtuns at your side are under the umbrella of USA and India.
We need a pure pashtun WILL and leadership.
We cant afford any type of interference. Because we have our own style and our own mizaaj

Well you are right, but it has to start somewhere, no?

[emkhan]

yes it has to be start because i dont want to see punjabi dirty faced and dirty mind and dirty soul and dirty activities army in my swat even in the whole pukhtunkhwa.
But i am really very sorry to say that our pukhtuns leaders are on sale and not united. everyone is struggling for his own interests. everyone is just doing politics in the name of pukhtuns but doing nothing for the pukhtuns.

[graveyardofempires]

did you guys expect otherwise?
their leaders are corrupt and they are fighting for the flowing dollars.
so what makes you think they will not rob the people when they have the chance and weapons.

[emkhan]

Ofcourse they are dollar lovers, if they don't get dollars they will die the other day.
They are taking the name of the country but actually they filling their own bank accounts and fulfilling their vested interests.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

yes it has to be start because i dont want to see punjabi dirty faced and dirty mind and dirty soul and dirty activities army in my swat even in the whole pukhtunkhwa.
But i am really very sorry to say that our pukhtuns leaders are on sale and not united. everyone is struggling for his own interests. everyone is just doing politics in the name of pukhtuns but doing nothing for the pukhtuns.

Well it starts with us. You are right, ttol thash panrae masheraan dee (unfortunately), but if we are quiet the next generation will say the same. BTW I heard in Swat things have quieted down....is that true, or just behind the scenes?

P.S. take it easy with the racism about dirty faces...I dislike what the army and state is doing there.