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    As salaamu alaykoum,

    please post articles and images of what a Secularist Society contains which is absent in Afghanistan currently.

    I will start with:

    Gay Imams



    South African Muhsin Hendricks is an Islamic cleric and a gay man.
    He runs a foundation called The Inner Circle, which helps Muslims, who are struggling to accept their sexuality. He has come to the Netherlands to spread a simple message: “It’s okay to be Muslim and gay!”
    It’s a message not everyone agrees with and the reason why Mr Hendricks is no longer officially a cleric.
    Muhsin Hendricks looks a little tired. He is in the Netherlands at the invitation of the Amsterdam branch of gay rights organisation COC and he’s on a punishing schedule. There is enormous public interest in the “pink imam”, as he’s been dubbed.
    Sin
    But every trace of fatigue vanishes as Mushin Hendricks talks about his faith and his sexuality.

    “Being Muslim and being gay are both strong identities. And I think that they are both innate identities for me. So somewhere along the line I had to reconcile the two.”

    This was far from easy for Muhsin Hendricks. He was born into an orthodox Muslim family in South Africa. His grandfather was a cleric in one of Cape Town’s most prominent mosques. Mushin discovered at an early age that he was different. He played with dolls rather than cars. He was seen as being feminine and was teased as a result. All this was long before he even knew there was such a thing as homosexuality.
    Mushin Hendricks took comfort in his faith, in spite of the fact that many Muslims believe it offers no place to homosexual feelings. Sexual love between two men or two women is prohibited. It is seen as one of the worst possible sins, punishable in some Islamic countries by death.
    Sodom and Gomorrah
    But Muhsin Hendricks decided to discover for himself what the Qur’an has to say about homosexuality. He pursued his Islamic studies in Pakistan. “It didn’t seem fair for a very merciful and compassionate God to condemn me for something that I didn’t choose.”
    Muhsin Hendricks drew a striking conclusion from his studies: nowhere does the Qur’an state that homosexuality is forbidden. Not even in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mushin refutes the interpretation that God destroyed the cities because men had sex with one another. He argues that the cities’ residents were punished for rape, not for consensual sex between men.
    Divorce
    The controversial cleric argues that there are even one or two Qur’an verses in which Allah acknowledges the existence of homosexuals. One example is in sura 24, verse 31. “It says that women have to put on extra clothing when they go out in public ... But not in front of those men who have no attraction for women. They must be the gay people,” he laughs.
    Despite these discoveries, Mushin still did not feel able to acknowledge and openly express his own homosexual feelings. He married, and he and his wife had three children. Mushin’s wife was aware of his homosexuality but still tried to make the relationship work.
    Mushin Hendricks’ knowledge of Islam and Arabic earned him respect in the mosques of Cape Town. But his feelings did not go away. After six years, his marriage ended in divorce and that was the moment when he officially came out of the closet.
    Satanist
    His mother fainted when she heard the news that her son Mushin was gay. But little by little she is beginning to understand. Some members of the family want nothing more to do with him.
    Now Mushin Hendricks has met the love of his life. His partner follows another faith – Hinduism – and has not yet come out of the closet.
    Mushin’s work at the mosque came to an abrupt end. His take on the relationship between homosexuality and Islam does not rhyme with the official doctrine. He has been branded a Satanist. Although he has never been physically threatened, he has to endure much abuse and criticism.
    Empowerment
    “Imams see me as a threat to their worldview and the way they see Islam. I don’t feel they should be threatened. It’s just another view that I would invite them to look at. My view allows queer Muslims to continue being Muslim but also to accept themselves for who they are.”
    Muhsin Hendricks still sees himself as an Islamic cleric. With his foundation The Inner Circle he tries to help Muslims with their coming out. He gives empowerment workshops to make young people more self-aware. He will also give one here in the Netherlands: over sixty people have already signed up for it.
    Visit the Inner Circle website or Facebook page


    No Pants Day

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    Former Prime Minister of Canada Paul Martin poses for a photo with University of Waterloo students celebrating 'No Pants Day'.


    No Pants Day is a prank that some groups have made into an annual event, happening on the first Friday in May. The prank is based on the premise of having people attend an event not wearing any pants (trousers). Participants are challenged to act as if there is nothing strange about not wearing pants in public. The liberation of breaking a social taboo and seeing the reaction of people not aware of the event generally makes the event fun for its participants. Different groups celebrate it on different days of the year.


    There are unconfirmed reports that No Pants Day was first celebrated as early as 1985 or 1986.
    Regional celebrations

    Texas

    The Knighthood of BUH at the University of Texas at Austin are advocates of the holiday. Austin has celebrated the day since 1997 according to a 1999 flyer.The holiday gets media attention every year, and as a result events celebrating No Pants Day have popped up in cities across the globe. Promoters state that the holiday is about not taking oneself seriously. The holiday is an example of surreal humor, which relies on an absurd situation (in this case, crowds of people walking around wearing no trousers).
    Idaho

    Boise, Idaho, celebrated its first No Pants Day in 2008.
    Illinois

    Saint Charles, Illinois, celebrated its first Pants Day in August 2007, it has been held every year since in mid August , and has become a local phenomenon. Participators are known to use the word ¨Pants¨often throughout the day, as well as wearing, No Pants.
    Variations

    In Australia, the radio station's 'today network' weekday afternoon program "The Hamish and Andy Show" (this year, the format has changed, whereby the "The Hamish and Andy Show" is only broadcast on Fridays), has a variation of this theme known as 'Pants Off Friday'. Every Friday, without fail, pants are not worn. The two radio programs hosts, Hamish & Andy, participate, while inviting their listeners to also participate in this Pants Off Friday. For photographic evidence, check their website
    A version of No Pants Day is The No Pants Subway Ride, an annual event organized by New York City prank collective Improv Everywhere. In this event, members of the group enter a subway car at consecutive stops without pants in the middle of winter. Participants pretend that they do not know each other and if asked, claim that they simply "forgot" their pants. The first No Pants Subway Ride took place in 2002 with seven riders and has grown since then. In 2009 over 1,200 people participated in New York and over 1,000 more participated in 21 other cities around the world. The fact that the No Pants Subway Ride has become a global event with multiple cities participating on the same day has led to its confusion with No Pants Day.The No Pants Subway Ride celebrated in Second Friday in January.



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    Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Pants_Day"
    Categories: Community organizing | Unofficial observances
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  • #2
    the guy on the left has boobs.
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

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    • #3
      no pants day hahahaha

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      • #4
        I think ur confused between difference in culture and secularism.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by N.E rocker View Post
          I think ur confused between difference in culture and secularism.
          so is the prostitution in India part of indian culture?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by N.E rocker View Post
            I think ur confused between difference in culture and secularism.

            No you are wrong.
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            • #7
              British gay Muslims seek Islamic weddings

              By Adrian Goldberg Presenter, 5 live Investigates Like many gay people, British gay Muslims are pursuing marriage
              Continue reading the main story Related Stories



              British gay Muslims are joining the global fight for equality and seeking gay Islamic marriage. The BBC's 5 live Investigates speaks to one couple about their 'nikah' - a Muslim matrimonial contract - and asks how they balance their sexuality with the Islamic faith.
              "We met about three years ago, at an iftar - a breaking of fast during Ramadan.
              "I think a lot of Muslims find that time of year very spiritual and very enlightening, and so I think that's why our relationship developed, because we spoke about our faith."
              "Eventually we went on a date."
              Asra recalls the first time she met her partner, Sarah, three years ago. The gay couple, who are also Muslim, are one of a growing number of gay, British Muslims who have cemented their relationship with marriage - Islamic marriage.
              Asra fondly remembers the moment Sarah proposed to her.
              "After the first date, which was about an hour, Sarah casually asked me to marry her."
              Sarah interjects.
              "I think it was more like four hours, after dinner, coffee and walking. I didn't really plan it, but it just really seemed like the way it was between us, I should try and keep it as pure as possible.
              "That may sound strange being lesbians, but it felt like we should do it the most honourable way we could."
              The Muslim way Asra and Sarah decided upon a 'nikah' - a Muslim matrimonial contract. Whilst nikahs have traditionally been the reserve of heterosexual Muslims, Asra and Sarah were aware that other gay Muslims had followed this route and the couple decided to investigate further.
              Continue reading the main story “Start Quote
              It's still very difficult for me to tell my family about my life being a lesbian. They know I am a believer, they know I am religious, but going as far as saying I am a lesbian is quite hard”
              End Quote Asra, gay Muslim
              "A few friends said you don't really have to have an official Imam, but you need someone who is knowledgeable enough about the Qur'an to do it. Fortunately, one of our friends was, and she offered to do it. She's a lesbian herself, and she said we could do it in her home."
              Three months after the proposal, the big day came. Asra wore a white shalwar kameez - a traditional Pakistani outfit - and Sarah a pink dress.
              "I wanted to wear leather, but Asra wouldn't let me," she sighs.
              "We got rings from Camden market, and we drew up contracts - we got a blueprint off the internet of a heterosexual contract and we both looked at it separately, to see if there were things we wanted to change."
              "I remember I put about the dog - that if we broke up, Asra wouldn't steal the dog."
              Asra rolls her eyes and adds "we also did a dowry, of £5. It was a symbolic thing and we've still got those £5 notes."
              In attendance were six friends, who also acted as witnesses - "and a cat," says Sarah.
              The short ceremony was conducted in Arabic, and additional duas - prayers - were read and the marriage was essentially no different from the nikahs performed for straight Muslim couples all over the world.
              There is growing visibility of gay Muslims in Britain, although not all are confident about coming out
              But the Islamic faith vehemently rejects homosexuality, and the fact this nikah was for a gay couple is highly offensive to the majority of Muslims - including Asra's own parents.
              "It's still very difficult for me to tell my family about my life being a lesbian. They know I am a believer, they know I am religious, but going as far as saying I am a lesbian is quite hard," Asra says.
              "I remember thinking this is the only time I am going to get married, and my family weren't there.
              "That was constantly going through my mind - I am having an Islamic nikah, doing as much as I can through my faith, but my family weren't there."
              However, Sarah's relationship with her family is quite different.
              "Because I wasn't born a Muslim - I converted five years ago - I think my family is quite accepting of my sexuality. But sometimes it seems like they are waiting for me to grow out of being a Muslim."
              Gay Muslim voices Sarah and Asra know their marriage is unorthodox, and the idea of a gay nikah would be rejected by the majority of Muslim scholars, but Sarah says it is nobody's business.
              Continue reading the main story “Start Quote

              By not allowing same-sex couples to wed, there is a direct attack on the Qur'an's message that each person has a mate who is their 'comfort and their cloak'”
              End Quote Imam Daayiee Abdullah
              "It is between me and God, and when we got married it was not ideal, but we were doing our best."
              However, there is a small but growing voice within the Muslim community representing gay people, with the emergence of British gay Muslim support groups such as Imaan and Safra Project.
              One of the key advocates of Muslim gay marriage is the American Imam, Daayiee Abdullah - who himself is gay. He has performed a number of gay nikahs in America and has also advised gay British Muslim couples on how to perform the ceremony.
              He reasons that to deny gay Muslim couples the right to a religious union, goes against teachings in the Koran.
              Speaking to 5 live Investigates, he says: "Since Islamic legal precedence does not allow same sexes to wed, Muslim societies make it a legal impossibility within Islam [but] by not allowing same-sex couples to wed, there is a direct attack on the Koran's message that each person has a mate who is their 'comfort and their cloak'."
              It is not just within the Muslim community that gay Muslim couples such as Sarah and Asra have encountered hostility.
              "I feel there's Islamaphobia within the gay community. It's something that really worries me," says Sarah.
              Continue reading the main story LISTEN TO THE FULL REPORT

              You can hear the full 5 live Investigates report at 2100 GMT on Sunday, 20 February on BBC 5 live


              Asra recalls a particularly unsavoury incident.
              "There was an occasion at gay pride once where one of the marchers turned around and quite crudely said 'we didn't know pride was allowing suicide bombers on the march' - it was really shocking to hear it from a fellow gay marcher."
              But according to Sarah, it's not just Muslims who are rejected by the gay community.
              "I think there's a deep-rooted assumption in the secular queer community that you can't be gay and believe in anything, apart from yourself or materialism."
              Acceptance However, gay unions are being integrated into wider British society even more - and the government recently announced plans to allow churches in England and Wales to host civil partnership ceremonies.
              Ministers have pledged greater equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, but said no religious group would be forced to host the ceremonies.
              The Church of England has said it will not do so. Quakers have welcomed the plans, with support also expected from Unitarians and Liberal Jews. But what about the Muslim community?
              "Homosexuality is not considered a halal way of living at the moment, so of course there's going to be an extreme reaction to a gay nikah. So, as a community we have to get tolerance before we can even attempt acceptance of marriage," says Asra.
              But she is hopeful for the future.
              "I certainly know younger gay Muslims that are out to their families and their families are absolutely fine with it.
              "Same-sex nikahs are still a contentious issue, but all I can say is I have done it, and I am completely comfortable and content with my faith and hopefully people will think 'well, let me try and get to that place'.
              You can hear the full report on 5 live Investigates on Sunday, 20 February at 2100 GMT on BBC Radio 5 live.
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              • #8
                ^ wth? !

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                • #9
                  who is the guy in the picture with the gay "imam"
                  why is he wearing Afghan clothes?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                    who is the guy in the picture with the gay "imam"
                    why is he wearing Afghan clothes?

                    Who said that the big dude is the gay Imam?

                    The dude in Afghan clothes IS THE GAY IMAM
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                    • #11
                      I thought the larger person was the gay one too.
                      Regardless, both have the most disgusting spiritual energy.

                      But the articles are SO HARD to even read more than a few lines
                      here and there.
                      They are repellent in the EXTREME>

                      I think I'm getting a feeling of why PF has some strange people too
                      and why it feels more and more toxic these days.

                      Maybe some of the posters think this kind of thing is just fine.

                      Perhaps some are even supporting this abomination.

                      Something is way off about members here these days.

                      I fear the truth is starting to emerge from seeing people defend
                      these kinds of people and probably they don't think anything is wrong
                      with 'marriages' either.

                      But: most are still afraid to say this publicly even behind anonymous usernames.
                      Even their thoughts are enough to make me feel sick as soon as I log in here.

                      I thought Afghan Muslims would always uphold the best standards.
                      It's a very big disappointment to discover here how liberal
                      in various areas they have become.

                      So there IS a need for a strict Islamic system to be brought to
                      a future Afghanistan.
                      Or else there will kids running around with purple streaked hair
                      and on the worst drugs and advocating this gross stuff described in the articles
                      above.

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                      • #12
                        Muslim gays seek Justice

                        British gay Muslims seek Islamic weddings

                        By Adrian Goldberg Presenter, 5 live Investigates
                        Like many gay people, British gay Muslims are pursuing marriage
                        Continue reading the main story Related Stories

                        British gay Muslims are joining the global fight for equality and seeking gay Islamic marriage. The BBC's 5 live Investigates speaks to one couple about their 'nikah' - a Muslim matrimonial contract - and asks how they balance their sexuality with the Islamic faith.
                        "We met about three years ago, at an iftar - a breaking of fast during Ramadan.
                        "I think a lot of Muslims find that time of year very spiritual and very enlightening, and so I think that's why our relationship developed, because we spoke about our faith."
                        "Eventually we went on a date."
                        Asra recalls the first time she met her partner, Sarah, three years ago. The gay couple, who are also Muslim, are one of a growing number of gay, British Muslims who have cemented their relationship with marriage - Islamic marriage.
                        Asra fondly remembers the moment Sarah proposed to her.
                        "After the first date, which was about an hour, Sarah casually asked me to marry her."
                        Sarah interjects.
                        "I think it was more like four hours, after dinner, coffee and walking. I didn't really plan it, but it just really seemed like the way it was between us, I should try and keep it as pure as possible.
                        "That may sound strange being lesbians, but it felt like we should do it the most honourable way we could."
                        The Muslim way
                        Asra and Sarah decided upon a 'nikah' - a Muslim matrimonial contract. Whilst nikahs have traditionally been the reserve of heterosexual Muslims, Asra and Sarah were aware that other gay Muslims had followed this route and the couple decided to investigate further.
                        Continue reading the main story “Start Quote
                        It's still very difficult for me to tell my family about my life being a lesbian. They know I am a believer, they know I am religious, but going as far as saying I am a lesbian is quite hard”
                        End Quote Asra, gay Muslim
                        "A few friends said you don't really have to have an official Imam, but you need someone who is knowledgeable enough about the Qur'an to do it. Fortunately, one of our friends was, and she offered to do it. She's a lesbian herself, and she said we could do it in her home."
                        Three months after the proposal, the big day came. Asra wore a white shalwar kameez - a traditional Pakistani outfit - and Sarah a pink dress.
                        "I wanted to wear leather, but Asra wouldn't let me," she sighs.
                        "We got rings from Camden market, and we drew up contracts - we got a blueprint off the internet of a heterosexual contract and we both looked at it separately, to see if there were things we wanted to change."
                        "I remember I put about the dog - that if we broke up, Asra wouldn't steal the dog."
                        Asra rolls her eyes and adds "we also did a dowry, of £5. It was a symbolic thing and we've still got those £5 notes."
                        In attendance were six friends, who also acted as witnesses - "and a cat," says Sarah.
                        The short ceremony was conducted in Arabic, and additional duas - prayers - were read and the marriage was essentially no different from the nikahs performed for straight Muslim couples all over the world.
                        There is growing visibility of gay Muslims in Britain, although not all are confident about coming out
                        But the Islamic faith vehemently rejects homosexuality, and the fact this nikah was for a gay couple is highly offensive to the majority of Muslims - including Asra's own parents.
                        "It's still very difficult for me to tell my family about my life being a lesbian. They know I am a believer, they know I am religious, but going as far as saying I am a lesbian is quite hard," Asra says.
                        "I remember thinking this is the only time I am going to get married, and my family weren't there.
                        "That was constantly going through my mind - I am having an Islamic nikah, doing as much as I can through my faith, but my family weren't there."
                        However, Sarah's relationship with her family is quite different.
                        "Because I wasn't born a Muslim - I converted five years ago - I think my family is quite accepting of my sexuality. But sometimes it seems like they are waiting for me to grow out of being a Muslim."
                        Gay Muslim voices
                        Sarah and Asra know their marriage is unorthodox, and the idea of a gay nikah would be rejected by the majority of Muslim scholars, but Sarah says it is nobody's business.
                        Continue reading the main story “Start Quote

                        By not allowing same-sex couples to wed, there is a direct attack on the Qur'an's message that each person has a mate who is their 'comfort and their cloak'”
                        End Quote Imam Daayiee Abdullah
                        "It is between me and God, and when we got married it was not ideal, but we were doing our best."
                        However, there is a small but growing voice within the Muslim community representing gay people, with the emergence of British gay Muslim support groups such as Imaan and Safra Project.
                        One of the key advocates of Muslim gay marriage is the American Imam, Daayiee Abdullah - who himself is gay. He has performed a number of gay nikahs in America and has also advised gay British Muslim couples on how to perform the ceremony.
                        He reasons that to deny gay Muslim couples the right to a religious union, goes against teachings in the Koran.
                        Speaking to 5 live Investigates, he says: "Since Islamic legal precedence does not allow same sexes to wed, Muslim societies make it a legal impossibility within Islam [but] by not allowing same-sex couples to wed, there is a direct attack on the Koran's message that each person has a mate who is their 'comfort and their cloak'."
                        It is not just within the Muslim community that gay Muslim couples such as Sarah and Asra have encountered hostility.
                        "I feel there's Islamaphobia within the gay community. It's something that really worries me," says Sarah.
                        Continue reading the main story LISTEN TO THE FULL REPORT

                        You can hear the full 5 live Investigates report at 2100 GMT on Sunday, 20 February on BBC 5 live
                        Asra recalls a particularly unsavoury incident.
                        "There was an occasion at gay pride once where one of the marchers turned around and quite crudely said 'we didn't know pride was allowing suicide bombers on the march' - it was really shocking to hear it from a fellow gay marcher."
                        But according to Sarah, it's not just Muslims who are rejected by the gay community.
                        "I think there's a deep-rooted assumption in the secular queer community that you can't be gay and believe in anything, apart from yourself or materialism."
                        Acceptance
                        However, gay unions are being integrated into wider British society even more - and the government recently announced plans to allow churches in England and Wales to host civil partnership ceremonies.
                        Ministers have pledged greater equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, but said no religious group would be forced to host the ceremonies.
                        The Church of England has said it will not do so. Quakers have welcomed the plans, with support also expected from Unitarians and Liberal Jews. But what about the Muslim community?
                        "Homosexuality is not considered a halal way of living at the moment, so of course there's going to be an extreme reaction to a gay nikah. So, as a community we have to get tolerance before we can even attempt acceptance of marriage," says Asra.
                        But she is hopeful for the future.
                        "I certainly know younger gay Muslims that are out to their families and their families are absolutely fine with it.
                        "Same-sex nikahs are still a contentious issue, but all I can say is I have done it, and I am completely comfortable and content with my faith and hopefully people will think 'well, let me try and get to that place'.

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                        • #13
                          ^ you sound like an intolerant bigoted individual. I see the game you play.

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                          • #14
                            Lol@ kids running around with purple hair. ... Like omg sounds like the end of the world.

                            Secondly you advocating strict Islamic laws...so you want the Taliban back? Really?

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                            • #15
                              Lol. The more I read catya's post the more I laugh.

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