What it takes to be a hero

[Maiwand]

^So according to you against whom is the Pakistani army today fighting?
Is it against Black Water, CIA, which have occupied your country and have their biggest head-quarters in Islamabad?
Their drones are 24 hours a day bombarding Pakistani villages and you still think that Pakistan is a sovereign state. If it wasn't for the money that they get from IMF and World Bank the government would't survive for one they.

Or is the Pakistani army fighting against their own people in Waziristan, NWF etc.?

[abubaker]

there's no conspiracy here bro, every one knows Pakistani/Afghan armies are being payed by the kufar to fight their wars, these people are killing their own brothers on the command of the kufar

[Talal]

^So according to you against whom is the Pakistani army today fighting?

Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan..they have long beards, dont like to shower much have guns but no balls..a few months back could be seen blowing up schools and killing innocents

Is it against Black Water, CIA, which have occupied your country and have their biggest head-quarters in Islamabad?

I think your confusing PM house and the National Assembly for Blackwater, again read my posts in this thread

Also read these articles i posted in the other thread..All you guys need is a bone and you guys can make the biggest issue out of it

Crackdown launched against Blackwater/Xe private security companies, 3 guards arrested

The federal police conducted a search operation against several security companies in different sectors of the capital after recovering of illegal arms from the house of an owner of a security company and arrested three security guards.
According to sources, the late night operation was conducted by the police after getting green signal from the interior ministry.
The late night raids on other security companies were made after large cache of arms were seized from a company providing security to US diplomats. The police during the raid inquired about details of licenses of arms.
Kohsar Police has also arrested three security guards of security company on suspicion.
Sources told that the Interior Ministry after recovering of illegal arms in huge quantity from the owner of house of Inter-Risk Security Company has decided to conduct a survey of hiring 200 residential buildings by US embassy. Sources said that the decision has been taken to know objectives behind hiring these houses.
Meanwhile US Embassy spokesman Rick Snelsire said the US contract with Inter-Risk to provide security at the embassy and consulates took effect this year. It is believed to be the first US contract for the firm, Snelsire said. He did not know how long the contract was for or what it was worth.
“Our understanding is they obtained licenses with whatever they brought into the country to meet the contractual needs,’’ he said. “We told the government that we had a contract with Inter-Risk.’’
A man who answered the phone number listed for the company and identified himself as Riaz Hussain said a raid had occurred, but gave no more information.
According to Inter-Risk’s website, it was first formed in 1988 and offers wireless home alarm systems as well as security guards and other services.
Though the US Embassy in Islamabad does have American security staff, much of the work is done by local workers. At checkpoints and gates leading to the embassy compound, for instance, Pakistani security guards inspect vehicles and log in visitors.
Scandals involving private contractors have dogged the United States in the Middle East and South Asia.
In Washington on Friday, the Commission on Wartime Contracting heard testimony about another contractor – ArmorGroup North America – involving alleged illegal and immoral conduct by its guards at the US Embassy in Afghanistan.
Earlier this year, the Iraqi government refused to grant Xe Services – the new name for what was once Blackwater – an operating license amid continued outrage over a 2007 lethal firefight involving some of its employees in Baghdad, although the State Department has temporarily extended a contract with a Xe subsidiary to protect US diplomats in Iraq.
Many of the recent rumors in Pakistan have been prompted by US plans to expand its embassy space and staff.
Among the other unsubstantiated stories the United States denies: that 1,000 US Marines will land in the capital, and that Americans will set up a Guantanamo-style prison

Police raid US embassy-contracted security firm: dozens of unlicensed weapons impounded

ISLAMABAD (September 20 2009): Islamabad Police on Saturday raided a local private security firm hired by the US Embassy and impounded dozens of unlicensed weapons at a time when the private security contractor was under unusual scrutiny. Police have recovered 61 assault rifles and nine pistols in the raid besides arresting two employees of the Inter-Risk private security company, spokesman of Islamabad Police Rana Akram told a news conference here.

Reporters were also shown the disputed weapons. The spokesman said that the Kohsar Police received information about concealing of huge quantity of arms and ammunition in a house in F-6/1 sector, owned by the owner of Inter-risk security company. The police in league with Islamabad Capital Territory (ICT) Administration raided the house, where arms were seized.

Arms and ammunition were concealed in the servant quarter of the house, the spokesman said, adding that two persons Tauqeer Ahsan s/o Saif Ali resident of Narowal, Muhammad Khan s/o Sher Zaman resident of Fateh Jang were arrested during the raid. The nabbed persons revealed during the preliminary investigation that the recovered arms and ammunition are owned by Ali Jaffer Zaidi who is the owner of Inter-risk security company.

Giving details of the recovered weapons, the spokesman said that 61 repeater guns, nine 30 bore pistols, one 22 bore pistol and 545 rounds were recovered in raid. He said that during the search of another house (No 62) one 7mm rifle, one repeater, computer files, registers and other items were also recovered. No NOC or licenses of the weapons were presented while several rifles were also found tempered, he added.

Akram said police are investigating whether any other private security firms are using illegal weapons. Meanwhile, Business Recorder has learnt that law enforcement agencies have arrested the owner of Inter-Risk security company, Ali Jaffer Zaidi, a facilitator of notorious Blackwater World-wide.

Captain Zaidi, a retired officer of Special Services Group (SSG), an elite commando force of Pakistan Army was arrested from Islamabad office of his security company namely 'Care and Caring', intelligence sources told this scribe. They said that Captain Zaidi along with another Army retired officer Captain Bernard Masih had recruited more than 200 retired army officials mostly from SSG and they were being given special training at a recently established training camp at Rawat, in the outskirts of Islamabad.

Sources alleged that Captain Zaidi was recruiting army personnel and training them to use sophisticated weapons for notorious Blackwater. These trained personnel would be used by Blackwater programmes in Pakistan. They have been offered lucrative salaries and other perks and privileges and are being provided training for quick response against any target as per international standards, sources said.

Sources revealed that Blackwater is preparing a quick response force in Pakistan by hiring local people to meet its interests. Captain Bernard Masih, a retired Pakistan Army official from 10th corps, was stopped by Islamabad Police at Kashmir Highway a few days ago and sophisticated weapons were found from his car; high officials were informed about the cache and a SP ranked officer along with a contingent of police officials reached the spot and started inquiry but Bernard thrashed the SP and threatened him of dire consequences.

Later, the US Embassy in Islamabad contacted high government functionaries and demanded immediate termination of the SP of Islamabad Police, sources said, adding that the SP was transferred to Balochistan under heavy pressure from US officials.

When this scribe contacted the Islamabad Police for details of the incident, a well-placed official on condition of anonymity confirmed the incident saying that besides US officials some government functionaries also want a clean chit to Blackwater in the country.
Captain Bernard was released after phone calls from high government officials and was transferred to Balochistan. This situation has created a sense of insecurity among police and civilian administration, he said, adding that Blackwater wants easy movement of its officials and weapons without any hindrance. Sources also revealed that a few days back law enforcement agencies arrested Captain Zaidi but later released under heavy pressure. http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=963030

Their drones are 24 hours a day bombarding Pakistani villages and you still think that Pakistan is a sovereign state. If it wasn't for the money that they get from IMF and World Bank the government would't survive for one they.

Or is the Pakistani army fighting against their own people in Waziristan, NWF etc.?

there's no conspiracy here bro, every one knows Pakistani/Afghan armies are being payed by the kufar to fight their wars, these people are killing their own brothers on the command of the kufar

Dude TTP arent our brothers, didnt you see what they did to our brothers, all those innocent kids, did you not see those innocents losing they're lives when these ****heads kept using innocent kids to do suicide bombings ?

US has promised 7 billion dollars in aid to Pakistan, know what Pakistan's actual actual bill is so far 40 Billion dollars !

And both of you either provide source for your "theories" or stop making statements that you cant back up

[Talal]

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'war on terror’ cost pakistan $50bn: Imran khan

http://ptiuk.org/news/the-muslim-news-uk-imran-khan-war-on-terror-has-cost-pakistan-50bn-and-40000-people-killed-n707.html

war on terror cost pakistan $35bn: Fm qureshi

islamabad: Foreign minister shah mahmood qureshi says the war against terror has cost pakistan more than 35 billion dollars while the cost in human lives is immeasurable. speaking at a press conference with eu foreign policy chief javier solana, qureshi said pakistan wants aid promised by the international community to translate into reality to ameliorate the miseries of the affected people.
Talking about his meeting with mr solana, qureshi said discussions were held to strengthen the strategic dialogue between the eu and pakistan and some areas of cooperation were identified.
Solana said the eu recognises that pakistan is going through difficult times and a number of steps are being taken to help pakistan economically, including giving pakistan market access to the european union.
Solana, who is on a two day visit to pakistan, visited the jalozai camp earlier in the day and was briefed on the displaced families and the issues related to their assistance.
Qureshi briefed the eu foreign policy chief on the engagement of pakistan and india at the top level, the military operation and the phased return of the idps.
Mr solana said a number of issues are on the agenda of eu's engagement with pakistan, including terrorism. — dawnnews


http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...-qureshi-qs-10

[imb706]

I know what it takes to be an hero.

[Talal]

^ Heroes never say that and you would be one by now if you had what it took be one.

[imb706]

Do you even know what "an hero" means?

[Talal]

^ I know when i see one, now you can remove yourself from this thread

[imb706]

An hero means to commit suicide in a funny way, so you can see the act of suicide as a physical object? Lol, I mean you can at least do five minutes of internet research before making an ass of yourself.

[Talal]

^ I dont need to make an ass of myself since your already proving to be more adept at that than i could ever be..now lets try again shall we..simple english really... g o a w a y

[imb706]

Well, the way you type, you come off as an idiot, not that you really are, I don't know you, but you present yourself terribly. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/An_hero

[Talal]

^ Atleast i am not derailing a discussion by self glorification..you can really leave now since you got nothing meaningful to add here, your smart enough to understand that right ?

[imb706]

Self glorification? I still don't think you know what it means to be "an hero" :D XD.

[Talal]

And you never will, those are men of honour but if its any consolation you do qualify for the title of an ignoramus

look it up on wiki

[inqilab]

Is this the one who died at the sitara market?