christianity...?

[faye]

finite is within infinite.

[faye]

well if your transform into something else; then you're no longer that thing you were before. Thus that thing you ere before is terminated (assuming that death is required for that transformation)

the energy is still energy, the spirit is still spirit. the only change being the shape of the form, which recycles but is still energy.
'form is the organisation of energy at certain rates of vibration'

[RevolutionThroughReason]

that's much different than human being an aspect of God.

[Afghanistan2010]

They don't knew how to **** on the toilet they talk about God and how God is and what God is.

Amazing.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

and i don't think having the physical and mental fortitude to withstand the pain of being set on fire is demonic, especially when protesting government oppression. it just goes to show that a man has more mastery over the flesh than god himself supposedly did in jesus christ.

This is a very important point that you're highlighting that reveals the incoherence of Christian Apologetics from a theological perspective.

For to surmise that a Disbelieving monk could endure the the agony of being ignited on fire without any plea for help or agony as being the influence of demons/dark powers consequently implies that a being othat was supposed to be God did not have the power/ability to overcome duch distress and thus these demons would be more powerful than God according to the Christian apologetic narrative.

[faye]

that's much different than human being an aspect of God.

ok. aspect is maybe the wrong word. i thought aspect meant 'feature' or 'a part'.

[faye]

They don't knew how to **** on the toilet they talk about God and how God is and what God is.

Amazing.

if you happen to be referring to me, KID, i did the left hand ****ing number in muslim countries and india, for years, before you were even born.
you think you have ownership of god because you can upload quotes from the qu'ran ?
you are obviously very young, unworldly and a pretender.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

ok. aspect is maybe the wrong word. i thought aspect meant 'feature' or 'a part'.

it sounds like you're saying all things are energy so energy is part of God.

[faye]

yes, because god has to create from god.

[Afghanistan2010]

faye , you brain

answer me the question,what is there if there is no light and no darkness ?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

well then Faye, then humans aren't an aspect of God, God is an aspect of God.

[faye]

i thought 'aspect' was wrong for you.
if god is everything and created everything there is no argument that humans are god. how can they be other than 'all that is'?
but you still haven't answered my question about spirit. the essence that impels our thoughts and being.

[faye]

faye , you brain
answer me the question,what is there if there is no light and no darkness ?

emptiness is form.
form is emptiness

[randolph85]

i thought 'aspect' was wrong for you.
if god is everything and created everything there is no argument that humans are god. how can they be other than 'all that is'?
but you still haven't answered my question about spirit. the essence that impels our thoughts and being.

god is not everything

[Zirey]

RTR,
The contrasts you listed between humanity and divinity are valid, but they do not prove that a composite union of two unlike natures in one person is impossible. Human reason cannot explain the personal union of unlike substances, spirit and matter, in an ordinary man. Yet this wonderful union is true. Much less can reason explain the composite union of divinity and humanity in the Messiah Jesus. It is yet more wonderful.

Your attempt to describe the Christian narrative regarding the two natures of Jesus showed that you still misunderstand our faith. We believe that only Jesus' human nature is 'wholly human' and only His Divine nature is 'wholly Divine', to use your terminology. It is like saying that only man's body is wholly matter and only his spirit is wholly spirit.

It was not just the Gentile Christians converted from paganism who regarded Jesus as Divine. The testimony of the Holy Scriptures is more about how the earliest Jewish Christians, born and bred in strict monotheism, also regarded Jesus as Divine. For example, the Jewish apostle Thomas, when he saw the resurrected Jesus, addressed Him as "My Lord and my God!" (John 20). The apostle Paul, a self-described "Hebrew of the Hebrews" who at first misunderstood our holy faith and persecuted Christians, called the Messiah "our great God and Savior" (Titus 3). Long before our Lord was born of the virgin Mary, the Old Testament prophecies had foretold that the Messiah would be Divine (Psalm 2, for example.)

--randolph85,
God did not kill Himself. Rather, it was sinners like you and me who unjustly put Jesus to death, even as the prophets foretold would happen. Yet He brings good out of evil and, as a result, forgiveness and eternal life to those who believe in Him.

randolph85 & RTR,
--It's odd that you find your hypothetical monk so praiseworthy. According to our faith, suicide is the unauthorized taking of a life, and therefore demonic like any other murder.
Anyway, the Messiah not only endured the Cross courageously as foretold, He also raised Himself from the dead. Now that's mastery over the flesh!