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But that would mean God can't exist without cells. the same way humans can't. If humans were an "aspect" of God it would imply God does not exist independently of God, and this we would be creators of God.
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i see it more that creator and creation are one. one, consciousness. consciousness has dreams, visualisations, imaginings and they manifest as energy form, in this realm, that we call, the universe.
the energy that is the energy forms and the spirit which is the motivating force of everything, is an aspect of the whole, which is 'god'.
if we do not know what god is, only adjectives which describe, then we cannot say what god isn't. as in, you stating that human must be separate from the creator.Comment
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i think god can never NOT exist. the energy of matter, recycles.
the spirit, i believe continues to exist as it is god, lol.Comment
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we can always not exist, when we die we cease the human form, descend into a break down of matter and become other forms, at least the physical component of us. So you can say that the properties that engender matter could be an aspect of God; but humans couldn't be.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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why?Comment
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That would imply God is terminable.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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Do you know danton's death the book ?
there is a story,how it is impossible that there is God,either he is in need of time (beginning) or space,but it is refuted by islam as follow : God exists without beginning and without end,there was not even space and time and God was there,God is the uncreated,and there is nothing that resembles from his creation him,he did not begot any children,he is from from partners.God the most high created the space and time.High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.
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depending on what you view spirit to be. i don't see any termination. i see transformation.
matter-energy-spirit-god. all one and alive, infinitely.
you haven't said what you think the spirit of humans is.Comment
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i read this on islam sites, said to be from qu'ran.
'he who knoweth his own self, knoweth god'Comment
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well if your transform into something else; then you're no longer that thing you were before. Thus that thing you ere before is terminated (assuming that death is required for that transformation)[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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Yes that's a correct statement; but it's like if you know darkness you know light, we learn of things by their contrasts.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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so, you are saying that god does not incorporate the capacity to transform?
you are limiting god with your human imagination, perhaps.
is this the ash'arite/muta'zilah 'causality' dispute? god being cause or nature and free will of beings.....Comment
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well if all you saw was the light you wouldn't be able to identify darkness[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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Originally posted by faye View Post
Or I'm expanding God out of the conditions we see being applied to finite things.
@ Mu'tazilah
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