Question to the atheists

[JAMALUDEEN]

You know Wazira, Zma vrora, this Jamal calls me a Non Pashtun and a sell out, ignoring the fact, that his Qais myth considers Pashtuns such as me as Karlani Non Pashtuns who came from a orphan who Qais found on the road.

Its really sad, honestly really sad, that Ja"mule" believes in such fantasies.

I gave him facts, and a reference from one of the most respected Islamic exporers Al biruni, who stated Afghans were Pagans and Animists, and not Ambrahmic faith followers.

Like I said, Jamal, do a DNA test, put the results up, I am excited to see your results and lets see if you got a Palestinian cousin or a Jew long lost uncle.

Why don't you answer my questions? And if you do..you will realise that you are not a pashtun/Afghan..

You are not a muslim..99% of Afghans are..lol

your days are gone buddy...the commies came..and they were defeated... no one is going to believe you..

no one has come to your rescue.. but only other atheists...

which shows....that most of the forum disagrees with you as well..

You are not muslim..therefore you are rejected by everyone..

[JAMALUDEEN]

Yeah, he considers himself like a true pashtun but he lives in west with his cosy bed lol
This is just ridiculous
JEMUL

look at how backward you are..you are still sleeping on the floor...haha most..people in tribal areas too..

Soldout Khamir..considers our ways to be backward..therefore he considers you to be backward too..

and you are thanking him..

and you call yourself a pashtun..even though he is disrespecting you..

shame.

[JAMALUDEEN]

All hail to king Ja Mule who is the judge of who is Pashtun and who is not.

May Jamal al Ameriki of the USA live a long life on Yankee Tax dollers.

May he one day bump into my 50 calibre so he can see the other side of his errors.

I'm not even in the west..

shame!!!!!!

In your face!!!

COME ON DUDE..IF YOU HAVE ANY SHAME.

You will stop now...

[Soldat_Amir]

You are not smart dude... i can prove it..

Ask Alchemist..graveyardofempires....Sangar... SmiterxEdge..

they have all caught your lies.. you are history bro..

its time for you to change your ID..and come with a new alias... your game is over...

My life is over, GOE, Alchemist, mr Edge and Sangar have exposed me of being a very intelligent person.

Jamal come up with something better for one.

I better stop commenting from now one, my game is over, I better run away I have been exposed!

Yes I have been exposed but to stupidity.

Show me a single post of GOE that makes any sense, Alchemist couldnt even last in the evolution thread and resorted to name calling even though his Subway(very Jewish) was a failure, Sangar declares Jihad from one of the worlds most liberal kuffur country and Mr Edge thinks very Pashtun is a relative of a Yemani desert tradesman.

I should no longer post because I am so scared of Jamal now.

[Soldat_Amir]

I'm not even in the west..

shame!!!!!!

In your face!!!

COME ON DUDE..IF YOU HAVE ANY SHAME.

You will stop now...

Yes I am sure your uncle is the president of Islamic emerite of Bani Israel.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Yes I am sure your uncle is the president of Islamic emerite of Bani Israel.

hahahaha

I am not in the WEST...I DONT LIVE IN A WESTERN COUNTRY..

In your face..

Liar!!

[Soldat_Amir]

hahahaha

I am not in the WEST...I DONT LIVE IN A WESTERN COUNTRY..

In your face..

Liar!!

I know bro but is your uncle the president of Bani Israel?

[JAMALUDEEN]

I know bro but is your uncle the president of Bani Israel?

You should meet my uncle.... he was in the Afghan Army.. before the russian came...

He is in the UK right now, i could arrange a meeting.. if you wish..

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

qais abdul rashid was a legend, a myth, a fable, a fake, a fuggazi


whatever you want to call it

pashtuns were non muslims, some converted willingly, some converted by sword


these are historical facts


so from this thread we have concluded the following

1- you dont have to be muslim to be afghan, hence the presence of afghan hindus and sikhs

2- being pashtun may be synonymous with muslim in a modern cultural context, because these things are subjective. but certainly to be a pashtun there is no religious requirement because

a- pashtun is based on paternal tribal lineage
b- before islam, pashtuns existed


this thread is an epic faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail

[Insaaf_انصاف]

qais abdul rashid was a legend, a myth, a fable, a fake, a fuggazi


whatever you want to call it

pashtuns were non muslims, some converted willingly, some converted by sword


these are historical facts


so from this thread we have concluded the following



1- you dont have to be muslim to be afghan, hence the presence of afghan hindus and sikhs

2- being pashtun may be synonymous with muslim in a modern cultural context, because these things are subjective. but certainly to be a pashtun there is no religious requirement because

a- pashtun is based on paternal tribal lineage
b- before islam, pashtuns existed


this thread is an epic faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail

I totally agree.
You don't have to be a Muslim to be an afghan by ethnicity...
There were afghans much before islam....

[Michin Khel]

I am taking no one side.I respect LZ/Ghaznavi/soldat and jamal is my friend...i would share my views. 1-Qais theory is false. It was created by khan jahan lodhi of mughal court, he wanted to show superiority of afghan race over mughals. At that times arabs and bani israel were considered races of high status as bani israel were descendants of prophets, so were arabs...being people of hazrat mohamad p.b.u.h. Khan jahan lodhi sent his men to pashtun areas to record history of each pashtun tribe. After that he connected each history of each individual tribe history with fictitious characters like qais abdul rasheed. The lower parts of the shajra are true as it was recorded from pashtuns. But the qais and few branches are false. I mean its true that wazirs & mehsuds are cousins or niazis & marwats are cousins but i doubt that qais was their ancestor...
2- I read babur nama, babur in his book mentions the fact that yousafzais were muslims in his times but bajauris were still pagans. He invaded bajaur and killed thousands of bajauris..he feels proud in his diary that he killed kafirs...so i think pashtuns were not jews
3- when pashtuns were mostly pagans, the few newly converted pashtuns to islam were perhaps not accepted as pashtuns by majority pagans like today GOE and Jamal dont consider amir, LZ or soldat as pashtuns...majority is authority...leavanay lives in pakistan, if he declare his views in public , his life can be in danger...when salman taseer was killed, we were discussing the news in majlis. I said that taseer was wrong in his opinions but qadri is a murderer not a hero, he should be hanged for murder. Suddenly a student stood up and with red eyes he said that i would kill you with my own gun if you spoke like this again..jawab k maa salawat warta sunao krro, du lasuna ar wa chawal. Margaro ar sara khlaas krro kani rogha mota lanja wa....soldat know what kind of reaction his mehsuds would give to him if he expressed his athiest views and levanay knows how his marwats would react to his views, lets be honest. I have no doubt about their sincerity to pashtun nation, the problem is pashtun society is not yet flexible for athiests.

[unknownprince]

qais abdul rashid was a legend, a myth, a fable, a fake, a fuggazi


whatever you want to call it

pashtuns were non muslims, some converted willingly, some converted by sword


these are historical facts


so from this thread we have concluded the following

1- you dont have to be muslim to be afghan, hence the presence of afghan hindus and sikhs

2- being pashtun may be synonymous with muslim in a modern cultural context, because these things are subjective. but certainly to be a pashtun there is no religious requirement because

a- pashtun is based on paternal tribal lineage
b- before islam, pashtuns existed


this thread is an epic faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail

Qais Abdul Rashid was not a myth. Prove it.

Pahstuns were monotheistic before Islam too.

[Michin Khel]

Qais Abdul Rashid was not a myth. Prove it.

Pahstuns were monotheistic before Islam too.

There is another theory very popular among religous pashtuns, that pashtuns are decendants of hazrat khalid bin walid...due to sentiments for islam, nowdays it is more popular than qais theory...we are so desparate to be arabs , every third person you would meet would claim to be syed...why not to be ok with geniune history?

[Soldat_Amir]

I am taking no one side.I respect LZ/Ghaznavi/soldat and jamal is my friend...i would share my views. 1-Qais theory is false. It was created by khan jahan lodhi of mughal court, he wanted to show superiority of afghan race over mughals. At that times arabs and bani israel were considered races of high status as bani israel were descendants of prophets, so were arabs...being people of hazrat mohamad p.b.u.h. Khan jahan lodhi sent his men to pashtun areas to record history of each pashtun tribe. After that he connected each history of each individual tribe history with fictitious characters like qais abdul rasheed. The lower parts of the shajra are true as it was recorded from pashtuns. But the qais and few branches are false. I mean its true that wazirs & mehsuds are cousins or niazis & marwats are cousins but i doubt that qais was their ancestor...
2- I read babur nama, babur in his book mentions the fact that yousafzais were muslims in his times but bajauris were still pagans. He invaded bajaur and killed thousands of bajauris..he feels proud in his diary that he killed kafirs...so i think pashtuns were not jews
3- when pashtuns were mostly pagans, the few newly converted pashtuns to islam were perhaps not accepted as pashtuns by majority pagans like today GOE and Jamal dont consider amir, LZ or soldat as pashtuns...majority is authority...leavanay lives in pakistan, if he declare his views in public , his life can be in danger...when salman taseer was killed, we were discussing the news in majlis. I said that taseer was wrong in his opinions but qadri is a murderer not a hero, he should be hanged for murder. Suddenly a student stood up and with red eyes he said that i would kill you with my own gun if you spoke like this again..jawab k maa salawat warta sunao krro, du lasuna ar wa chawal. Margaro ar sara khlaas krro kani rogha mota lanja wa....soldat know what kind of reaction his mehsuds would give to him if he expressed his athiest views and levanay knows how his marwats would react to his views, lets be honest. I have no doubt about their sincerity to pashtun nation, the problem is pashtun society is not yet flexible for athiests.

Jar may sha zma vrora excellent post.

[Alchemist]

My life is over, GOE, Alchemist, mr Edge and Sangar have exposed me of being a very intelligent person.

Jamal come up with something better for one.

I better stop commenting from now one, my game is over, I better run away I have been exposed!

Yes I have been exposed but to stupidity.

Show me a single post of GOE that makes any sense, Alchemist couldnt even last in the evolution thread and resorted to name calling even though his Subway(very Jewish) was a failure, Sangar declares Jihad from one of the worlds most liberal kuffur country and Mr Edge thinks very Pashtun is a relative of a Yemani desert tradesman.

I should no longer post because I am so scared of Jamal now.

Don't take my name in vain...


It was thanks to GOE and some others that you finally figured out your identity...

Now we are telling you that AFGHANISTAN TODAY!!!

not 1000 years ago is MAJORITY ISLAM.

It is called THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC. Da Afghanistan Islamiya Jumhuriya...ISLAMIYA.

Do you understand that phrase?

The constitution of Afghanistan cannot invalidate the QUR'AN.

Hate it all you want but legilators must know arabic to know what is in the Qur'an!

Hate it all you want but in the ISLAMIC REPULIC OF AFGHANISTAN your beliefs were tantamount to TREASON!


Everyone that argued with me on Evolution has disappared out of shame! Mountain goat...that midnight sun...and now {---EDITED---}.. He has gone MIA for a week now? You know why? Cos he finally started to smell the stench of his own B.S! Waiting for the air to clear, his traumatized mind to recover from all that B.S he believed....Psychologically damaged. Each and everyone of you...go look at ozzy...his arguments have turned inward. He is reacting like an abused child...cowering from fear to even read what I have to say...just flailing his arms about with his eyes closed. I' give him another week before he is dispatched too!

And let me tell you something else ...don't butt heads with me. Your intellect is non existent as far as I am concerned.

Oh and for the record... subway is owned by an Italian (Fred Deluca).