Question to the atheists

[graveyardofempires]

lol
look at these alien atheists

becharagan

they think their fancy beliefs will eb accepted to Pashtuns.

you people are not Pashtuns,we call you shame on the name of Pashtuns..

jamaludeena wrora preda da leewaney,doy jack daniels depara zaan emaan aw qaam kharsawey.

now that the identity of Pashtuns is the Truth/Islam
what are you guys going to do about it?

btw i hope you guys dont open your mouths as you do here in Afghan lands infront of people.

that will be as stupid as calling yourself an atheist pukhtun

[JAMALUDEEN]

U gotta love how jamalamaladeen and graveyard both are hip hop fans and seem to know all the names but use it against me as an argument

The amount of inferiority complex and insecurity coming from u is ridicolous

Be a man. The Amir show you how

somehow this NWA tool..who has been a prison prag...for some big gigantic black guy named tyron..

thinks

NWA = Hiphop..

[JAMALUDEEN]

Lol @ this dude coming from the "land if cupcakes"

Ahahshahahahahaha

How did i miss that?

Awww lawd this is too easy

another dumb response...

you guys still cannot counter my argument.. just a bunch of rotten apples..that we do not need..

[graveyardofempires]

Pashtuns = muslims

atheist "pashtun" = an oxymoron term

[graveyardofempires]

Jamaludeen a
these guys are living in madman's reality.

i honestly tell you guys that the way you guys are behaving an dtalking is opposite to us and you will never be accepted by us Pashtuns=muslims.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Jamaludeen a
these guys are living in madman's reality.

i honestly tell you guys that the way you guys are behaving an dtalking is opposite to us and you will never be accepted by us Pashtuns=muslims.

I guess, its the internet, and he probably knows that he can get away with it..

If this LZ tool..accused a pashtun or even a tajik or hazara of flirting a 12 years old girl...in real life He would receive the beating of his life.

He just cannot accept the fact that he is not just disliked by pashtuns, but hazaras, tajeks as well..

[Soldat_Amir]

Jamal you got owned. Simple as. Accept it.

Genetic research as disowned this mythical non sense about Pashtuns being related to Qais Rashid. The whole account of Qais Rashid and the Bani Israel myth came about during the Mughal times to show the Pashtuns as some what a holy race.

Now, our Pushto language has noooooooo relation to Hebrew nor Arabic, our words sound different and our customs are way way way different.

Even Arab traveller Ibn Battuta stated there was a "Persian tribe of Afghans" way before any mention of the whole Qais non sense.

Jamal I feel sorry for you and Wish to save you from this non sense. Its become some what of a trend by Muslims to claim some root with the original Muslims of Arabia or the Israelite Jews. Take the example of the Syeds or the Punjabi Ghilanis, the Ghilanis claim to be directly related to the Arabs of Baghdad but they live in Karachi and look like Sea gypies of Tamil Nadoo.

Qais Rashid is a myth and its as simple as that, those who want to refute this, please do provide evience both genetic and logical.

Karachi and Toramana have posted on a lot of threads proof that Pashtuns are Western Euroasian, we have more in common with the people of Centra Asia or Western Asia, we do not have holy Jewish blood nor Arab blood.

Pashtuns are not semitic peoples our language is not one of the semitic languages.

I sent my wifes DNA sample to a well known research company, just for the fun of it, and it turned out she has roots from Eastern Europe, no wonder her family has all green eyes, I have also done mine too, but I wish to not disclose my results to petty little trolls on this forum who will use it agaisnt me, but my results came out very shocking and I am quite proud of it. Both me and my wife come from Waziristan, and we are not semitic by blood nor related to Palestinians or other semitic people, our results matched a lot of other samples taken from parts of Afghanistan close to Iran.

Anyway....Jamal none of your family has done research nor read books on this topic, you are just using them to make your statement look stronger which it doesnt.

Pashtuns were Pagans before Islam's arrival, no Pashtun was a Jew and neither did they follow any religion related to the ancient israelites.

As a matter of fact, this Qais myth is very discriminating against the Karlani Pashtuns i.e Maseed,Wazir,Zadran,Zazai,Khattak,Bannuchi and many others, as according to this myth, Karlan was a orphan Qais picked up from the road hence they are not real Pashtuns.

Give it up bro!

[JAMALUDEEN]

Jamal you got owned. Simple as. Accept it.

Genetic research as disowned this mythical non sense about Pashtuns being related to Qais Rashid. The whole account of Qais Rashid and the Bani Israel myth came about during the Mughal times to show the Pashtuns as some what a holy race.

Now, our Pushto language has noooooooo relation to Hebrew nor Arabic, our words sound different and our customs are way way way different.

Even Arab traveller Ibn Battuta stated there was a "Persian tribe of Afghans" way before any mention of the whole Qais non sense.

Jamal I feel sorry for you and Wish to save you from this non sense. Its become some what of a trend by Muslims to claim some root with the original Muslims of Arabia or the Israelite Jews. Take the example of the Syeds or the Punjabi Ghilanis, the Ghilanis claim to be directly related to the Arabs of Baghdad but they live in Karachi and look like Sea gypies of Tamil Nadoo.

Qais Rashid is a myth and its as simple as that, those who want to refute this, please do provide evience both genetic and logical.

Karachi and Toramana have posted on a lot of threads proof that Pashtuns are Western Euroasian, we have more in common with the people of Centra Asia or Western Asia, we do not have holy Jewish blood nor Arab blood.

Pashtuns are not semitic peoples our language is not one of the semitic languages.

I sent my wifes DNA sample to a well known research company, just for the fun of it, and it turned out she has roots from Eastern Europe, no wonder her family has all green eyes, I have also done mine too, but I wish to not disclose my results to petty little trolls on this forum who will use it agaisnt me, but my results came out very shocking and I am quite proud of it. Both me and my wife come from Waziristan, and we are not semitic by blood nor related to Palestinians or other semitic people, our results matched a lot of other samples taken from parts of Afghanistan close to Iran.

Anyway....Jamal none of your family has done research nor read books on this topic, you are just using them to make your statement look stronger which it doesnt.

Pashtuns were Pagans before Islam's arrival, no Pashtun was a Jew and neither did they follow any religion related to the ancient israelites.

As a matter of fact, this Qais myth is very discriminating against the Karlani Pashtuns i.e Maseed,Wazir,Zadran,Zazai,Khattak,Bannuchi and many others, as according to this myth, Karlan was a orphan Qais picked up from the road hence they are not real Pashtuns.

Give it up bro!

unlike you and lz.. they studied in Afghanistan in an afghan university...before the war...so chew on that... their information is more authentic..than anything coming from atheist commies...

[Soldat_Amir]

Jamal in regards to your childish comment referring to others as Intellectual Frauds, let me remind you that a person with a sane mind can refute you very easily by using Islamic sources. Right, let me be that sane minded person to refute you.

I will use a source from the book titled History of Afghanistan by Abdul Sabahuddin. In his book, he sources the writings of Al Biruni. Al Biruni, was a well known Islamic explorer from Persia, who is widely respected by historians both Non Muslim and Muslim.

from the book he writes the following:-

"it is surmised from the writings of Al Biruni that Pashtuns and/or other local afghans
in Eastern Afghanistan had not been completely converted. Al Biruni, writing in
Tarikh al Hind, also alluded to the Eastern Afghans as neither Muslim nor Hindu,
but simply Afghans, which may mean that the local population of Eastern Afghanistan
were Pagans and animists not unlike the kafirs of Kalash prior to the coming of
Islamic invaders"

this was taken from page 36 of Abdul Sabahuddin's book titled History of Afghanistan.

I hope this claries that Pashtuns/Afghans were never mentioned as Jews nor Arabs by any respected authority at the time.

Abū al-Rayḥān Muḥammad ibn Aḥmad al-Bīrūnī

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%A...r%C5%ABn%C4%AB

case closed.

[Soldat_Amir]

unlike you and lz.. they studied in Afghanistan in an afghan university...before the war...so chew on that... their information is more authentic..than anything coming from atheist commies...

Another childish response. I don't know if your uncle smoked too much hash as a student but the only source they have is the non sense written by that mughal era person.

I don't see any point in trying to educate a little kid like you who brings communism into a debate on Pashtun origins.

Go on ask yourself, if Pashtuns came from Qais Rashid, then wouldnt we all be speaking Hebrew or Arabic, and why is it that Pushto is related to Avesta and Farsi, and if we do support your deluded childish claim, then that would mean we adaopted the Language of PASHTO from WHOM?

[JAMALUDEEN]

Jamal in regards to your childish comment referring to others as Intellectual Frauds, let me remind you that a person with a sane mind can refute you very easily by using Islamic sources. Right, let me be that sane minded person to refute you.

I will use a source from the book titled History of Afghanistan by Abdul Sabahuddin. In his book, he sources the writings of Al Biruni. Al Biruni, was a well known Islamic explorer from Persia, who is widely respected by historians both Non Muslim and Muslim.

from the book he writes the following:-

"it is surmised from the writings of Al Biruni that Pashtuns and/or other local afghans
in Eastern Afghanistan had not been completely converted. Al Biruni, writing in
Tarikh al Hind, also alluded to the Eastern Afghans as neither Muslim nor Hindu,
but simply Afghans, which may mean that the local population of Eastern Afghanistan
were Pagans and animists not unlike the kafirs of Kalash prior to the coming of
Islamic invaders"

this was taken from page 36 of Abdul Sabahuddin's book titled History of Afghanistan.

I hope this claries that Pashtuns/Afghans were never mentioned as Jews nor Arabs by any respected authority at the time.

Abū al-Rayḥān Muḥammad ibn Aḥmad al-Bīrūnī

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%A...r%C5%ABn%C4%AB

case closed.

case is not closed yet...

you are an intellectual fraud too.. and it has been proven by both Barakzai Abdali and Smiterxedge..who both checked your referencing in your meaningless articles...

So due to this.. and your past history of trolling with different aliases..it can be safely concluded that you are an intellectual fraud..

You made the right decision 3 days ago..by stopping debating with me.. as i am on another level for you bro.. i'm too deep.. i m too smart.. you are nothing..

[JAMALUDEEN]

case is now closed.

[Soldat_Amir]

Honestly, sorry to say, but this historical section is being over run by childish forum members i.e GOE and Jamal as good examples.

I hope the Admin staff take note of this as it can be very damaging to others outlook on us Pashtuns and especially our intellectual value.

A myth is a myth.

Pashtuns are part of the Indo European family, so is Pushto in regards to Languages. We are not Jews, Semites nor related to any Arab.

Pashtuns have lived in Afghanistan way before Islam or Judaism ever came into being.

If your so confident Jamaudeen about your uncles claims of Pashtuns being related to Qais, why dont you go and do a DNA test and post your results on a thread on this Forum.

Lets see if you are truely related to the ancient Israelites.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Is your uncle in the Pakistan army going to fund my research?

[Soldat_Amir]

case is not closed yet...

you are an intellectual fraud too.. and it has been proven by both Barakzai Abdali and Smiterxedge..who both checked your referencing in your meaningless articles...

So due to this.. and your past history of trolling with different aliases..it can be safely concluded that you are an intellectual fraud..

You made the right decision 3 days ago..by stopping debating with me.. as i am on another level for you bro.. i'm too deep.. i m too smart.. you are nothing..

Mr Edge is an Arab who wants to promote Pan Arabist ideals on Pashtuns, Barakzaiabdali is a Doctor in Secular America who wants to promote stoning of women and girls.

I take what they say with a pinch of salt.

You are a ignorant little kid who is afraid of logic and fact.

Like I said, that aside, post us your DNA testings and prove us all wrong that you are directly related to the children of Israel haha!

I will have my pop corn and laughing gas just for the fun of it.