Question to the atheists

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

what the hell are you talking about?you are not ozy so why come here start talkign crap.
a question for you : d you think your elders were idiots by being muslims?

thats like asking was my ancestors stupid for not using the microwave to heat their food

my elders were constrained by the limits of their knowledge and understanding. i have a different set of standards for those living today then those living 50,100,1000 yrs ago

people of my fathers generation, Islam is all they know. I dont fault them

The young ones of today should know better but you have to understand, as a rational logic person i dont care what people believe as long as it doesnt interfere with me

its the religious ones that are insecure and have small penises and get mad when people dont want to be their religion, and resort to arguments with threats etcetra etcetra

[Michin Khel]

^
loserssssss
trying their best to be accept as Afghans but have no characteristics.

the point is that Afghanistan doesnt represent you and when you are to stand and sing the national anthem as a patriot you will have to say Allah u Akbar evne though it says nothing about you.

the same for the flag LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH MUHAMADU RASUL ALLAH and under that ALLAHU AKBAR the rest of emblem shows inside of a mosque.
so much for your nationalistic dreams.

And how much Afghan/Pashtun characteristics you have?...you live in USA and you are part of a westren society where you struggle every day to maintain your islamic and afghan identity...kids like you who are raised in west learn and develop pashtuniyat through internet sites like khyber.org , youtube etc...the owner of khyber.org is a omar khan marwat living in homeland who uploaded pashtun material so that any pashtun with identity crisis in west may get benefit from it. Similarly we pashtuns of homeland are uploading videos on youtube so that kid like you do not forget your origin and ways...but the irony is that these westren pashtuns learn ABC of pashtunwali on internet and then roar upon us that we are not good quality pashtuns.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

And how much Afghan/Pashtun characteristics you have?...you live in USA and you are part of a westren society where you struggle every day to maintain your islamic and afghan identity...kids like you who are raised in west learn and develop pashtuniyat through internet sites like khyber.org , youtube etc...the owner of khyber.org is a omar khan marwat living in homeland who uploaded pashtun material so that any pashtun with identity crisis in west may get benefit from it. Similarly we pashtuns of homeland are uploading videos on youtube so that kid like you do not forget your origin and ways...but the irony is that these westren pashtuns learn ABC of pashtunwali on internet and then roar upon us that we are not good quality pashtuns.

Luffy dont waste your time on these Afghans, they are losers. Save your side believe me, an Afghan is not worth the effort.

[Michin Khel]

Luffy dont waste your time on these Afghans, they are losers. Save your side believe me, an Afghan is not worth the effort.

Ofcourse brother.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Ofcourse brother.

This is not the Afghan or Afghanistan of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. We as a people and country have been so thoroughly devastated, we have lost all semblance of shame and intelligence

once tall, strong people now malnourished

even in the old poor days, we never begged. we never left our country for refuge. Now we are the biggest refugees in the world

Afghanistan needs a thorough cleansing. Im talking, killing a bunch of these mua****az

[JAMALUDEEN]

My daddy was from Afghanistan, Im not


Let me make this very clear to you, because the Amir is a special case

Im a Pakhtun because of my paternal lineage
But Im not Afghan

I wasnt born there, or raised there. I dont have an Afghan passport or citizenship

Im from the West End Toronto, its all I know, I know nothing else.

NWA> Ahmad Zahir or whatever corny azz Afghan singer
Scarlett and Lawrence> whatever corny azz Kabul streets
Maple Leaf> That wack azz Religious inscription on the Afghan Flag

If being Afghan means having to submit myself to a belief system I reject, then Fukk Afghanistan

lol, yall trying to catch us non believers in a trap lol wont work, Id rather say fukk your country

I aint from Africa - YouTube

It didn't take long before you started showing your true colors.

[JAMALUDEEN]

This is not the Afghan or Afghanistan of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. We as a people and country have been so thoroughly devastated, we have lost all semblance of shame and intelligence

once tall, strong people now malnourished

even in the old poor days, we never begged. we never left our country for refuge. Now we are the biggest refugees in the world

Afghanistan needs a thorough cleansing. Im talking, killing a bunch of these mua****az

You should start off by killing yourself. You are the dirt Afghanistan doesn't need. You bring shame to your family.. and the kakar tribe.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

It didn't take long before you started showing your true colors.

Garbage like you ensures that the best and brightest of Afghans, will continue to serve countries that appreciate them

I look forward to being a productive member of Canadian society, and buying its good, consuming its products and paying taxes to this country

I understand Afghanistan is more concerned with what God you pray too. Well, take that to the bank. Use your belief in God to pay the prostitutes to get off the streets, or put bread in a widows lap, or stop human trafiikkers, or prevent foreigners from killing your people

no no no, these are not important. our personal religious beliefs determine our afghaniat.

we can rob the people, rape the women, collaborate with foreign invaders, but as long as we can say Subhanallah and pray the odd namaz we re okay

the funny thing is every athiest here, was raised Muslim. We can pretend to be Muslim very easily. But we re not with that fake shiit

[JAMALUDEEN]

There are and there have been patriotic religious Afghans, patriotic Afghans who believe in secular democracy, patriotic Afghans who believe in Marxism, patriotic Afghans who believe in monarchy, patriotic Afghans who prefer the jirga system over a centralized government, etc, etc. Should we pick and choose who love their country the most?

In my opinion, a person's religion is his or her private matter. It does not make them any less Pushtun than anyone else. There is a lot of difference between culture and beliefs.

After all, if we follow your theory that Pashtun = Muslim, then we have to believe that before ~1000AD and Mahmud of Ghazni, there were no Pashtuns on the face of the earth.

So to answer your question very briefly, it makes no difference to me whatsoever whether the Afghan national anthem mentions Allah or the deity of any other religion nor does it make an iota of difference to me whether Afghans are Muslims or atheists.

No che ta da Afghanano pa zhabay pohegay no pa dwanrro ghwaguno wawra che ze da har yare na beghair wayalay shama che sumra meena ao mohabbat che ze laram ao Maseed lari da pukhto ao da pukhtano ao da haghoi da watan khowray sara, ta cherta ham da haghe lasama barkha nashay laralay.

Ze che kum qadar kawum da khpal watan, ze ye hich chaa ta da sabitawalo dapara mazur neyam. Ao khafgan kho da day khabaray day che staso ghwanday khalak sok che da kharjiano pa hewaduno ke warsara pa qalar wosegai dalta da day khowray khalko banday tor lagawai che staso daa ao staso haghaa..

Bachai, ta ba sa pohegay che da qaam meena sa shi ta wayi? Che bal ta guta nisay, salor gutay berta zaan ta wi. Che lag loy shay no pakhpala ba poye shay.

Religion is only a private matter in the west where muslims are a minority... so they have to cope with the laws of the majority.. isn't that how democracy works?

However, in case of Afghanistan, it is a whole different case. Despite all the ethnicities, Afghanistan is still 99% muslims...and if you think that the kalima and allahu akbar only has symbolic value, then you are just being ignorant...

The flag and the national anthem of a country is the representation of the people.......

yawazey khudai poyeshi chi desta pa zrey ki cheshai da aw aga teh da afghanistan sara meena larey ya nah...

teh woos ham peh koshish ki yey chi pe yaw las ki dwa indwaney wonesi..

[Alchemist]

If afghanistan is only for muslims and there no place in it for non-muslims like levanay zalmay then what about sikhs and hindus of kandahar? Who according to kandaharis are very patriot afghans. In the same way sikhs of peshawer and khyber agency are very well integrated into pashtun society. If an athiest e.g zalmay doesnt impose his personal beliefs on others then how he can not be part of pashtun society?
Leavanay zalmay has grasp on pashtun matters much stronger than most of you guys. Just because he is athiest ,it doesnt mean he loses credibility as a pashtun...i wont advocate all athiests, but i have great respect for zalmay because he is great as a person and his heart beats for pashtuns...

Sikhs in afghanistan were required to identify themselves as such.

Also sikhs did not play any part in Afghan Politics. They were merchants...not soldiers, or politicians or imams or professors or writers.

If zalmay has so much knowledge of pashtun matters he wouldn't be sporting a picture of lenine on this forum. Communism is responsible for the deaths of 2 million afghans...more damage than what any mullah has caused in all pashtun history put together.

I am all for Niggaz With Attitudes...but the contradiction between a group that promotes sex, drugs and violence with pashtun culture is obvious for a westernized non pashtun for me ...yet there you go patting him on the back and saying "brother ...dees pepal dan no vat is pashtoon kalchar bekuz der is leving in de vest!"

I don't even know what side you are arguing half the time lol...

[JAMALUDEEN]

youre so right, afghanistan doesnt need clean principled educated people

it needs more Mullahs and Karzais.

enjoy your shiit hole country. fukk afghanistan im from scarlett and lawrence

Im glad you and graveyard have contributed to this thread, it opened my eyes to the reality that my conception of "Afghanistan" is a fantasy. Who am I kidding, who are any of us Western Afghans kidding, back home is an absolute shiiit hole, full of the stupidest dumbest imbred garbage people

this is who I concern myself for lol?

you don't even know about my views and yet assuming so much. Afghanistan is in the current state, because of faithless animals like you.

Your family is also from Afghanistan.. so they are all stupid, dumbest, imbred garbage people...

you seem lost...

you are not a nigga..

[JAMALUDEEN]

This Amir wannabe pashtun claims to be canadian, yet look at his username..

inferiority complex much? LOL

[JAMALUDEEN]

Garbage like you ensures that the best and brightest of Afghans, will continue to serve countries that appreciate them

I look forward to being a productive member of Canadian society, and buying its good, consuming its products and paying taxes to this country

I understand Afghanistan is more concerned with what God you pray too. Well, take that to the bank. Use your belief in God to pay the prostitutes to get off the streets, or put bread in a widows lap, or stop human trafiikkers, or prevent foreigners from killing your people

no no no, these are not important. our personal religious beliefs determine our afghaniat.

we can rob the people, rape the women, collaborate with foreign invaders, but as long as we can say Subhanallah and pray the odd namaz we re okay

the funny thing is every athiest here, was raised Muslim. We can pretend to be Muslim very easily. But we re not with that fake shiit

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I wouldn't be surprised, if you have been to jail..and ended up being a prag...

[JAMALUDEEN]

And how much Afghan/Pashtun characteristics you have?...you live in USA and you are part of a westren society where you struggle every day to maintain your islamic and afghan identity...kids like you who are raised in west learn and develop pashtuniyat through internet sites like khyber.org , youtube etc...the owner of khyber.org is a omar khan marwat living in homeland who uploaded pashtun material so that any pashtun with identity crisis in west may get benefit from it. Similarly we pashtuns of homeland are uploading videos on youtube so that kid like you do not forget your origin and ways...but the irony is that these westren pashtuns learn ABC of pashtunwali on internet and then roar upon us that we are not good quality pashtuns.

Dino Bubble gum, when a person lives in a western country...it doesn't mean that he is struggling to maintain his islamic and afghan identity..

I know families in here...who have been in here for over 40 years...their kids are born in here..who all speak pashto, farsi, urdu and english...and they are also very religious and practice islam well. They all love Afghanistan too, and also got married in Afghanistan as well.. unlike the nigga wannabe ..


It's all in the mind my friend.. not everyone has a weak imaan like you do..

No wonder you are siding with a kafir.

[graveyardofempires]

And how much Afghan/Pashtun characteristics you have?...you live in USA and you are part of a westren society where you struggle every day to maintain your islamic and afghan identity...kids like you who are raised in west learn and develop pashtuniyat through internet sites like khyber.org , youtube etc...the owner of khyber.org is a omar khan marwat living in homeland who uploaded pashtun material so that any pashtun with identity crisis in west may get benefit from it. Similarly we pashtuns of homeland are uploading videos on youtube so that kid like you do not forget your origin and ways...but the irony is that these westren pashtuns learn ABC of pashtunwali on internet and then roar upon us that we are not good quality pashtuns.

you dont knwo anything about people living in the west except for your typical non sense thinking you are some way better living in denial.

1 i dont live in USA you ignorant person.
2 i do not follow western values but my own Islamic and pashtun culture.
matter of fact we still live in tribal system here,unlike the amir types who bark for pork.No need to struggle we know very well who we are,you are ill informed.
3.wrong again i was born and raised in my country and we are strickt on our culture and we have all the freedom to practice our religion here.Btw i dont trust khyber.org's content.
you pashtun from homeland cant even read or write pashto unlike me,so what benefit do i "westerm identity crises" have on you.
if i were to know my origin from you dan i might have thought to be a ranjeeth singhi.

4.didnt learn pashtunwali on the internet neither do i have the need for it.

you failed you liar.