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  • Originally posted by کیش View Post
    Where's the evidence that there is no god?
    Already answered -- not long ago. Scroll back and read the answer. Ask questions about what you don't understand.


    And please don't say there isn't any sense that is your argument about the existence of god.
    Please go back and read my actual argument. I will make my own arguments -- I don't need you to make up straw men about what I believe.


    I wanna see good ol detective evidence that says no god. I wanna see evidence of evidence of the actual evidence
    Huh? then what? evidence of evidence of evidence of evidence? Why don't you start providing evidence *OF* a god? You are the one claiming that something exists -- now prove it. Your claims, your burden of proof.
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    "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

    "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

    أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
    (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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    • Originally posted by کیش View Post
      Your sounding like a kid. You want evidence? No sorry no evidence for you. Life sucks like that, science exacerbating doesn't help no matter how delusional someone gets with it. If you haven't seen one than you haven't seen one. Only certain people have that privilege
      Ah. So your argument is 'nope, I don't have evidence, so that's evidence I am right' -- sorry if no one sane accepts that as proof of anything. Must be frustrating.


      God doesn't work like that where he exposes himself to his creation. You search for him, he doesn't have to do anything
      But his followers do -- if they want to claim his existence is fact, anyway.
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      "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

      "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

      أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
      (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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      • Originally posted by کیش View Post
        Your sounding like a kid. You want evidence? No sorry no evidence for you. Life sucks like that, science exacerbating doesn't help no matter how delusional someone gets with it. If you haven't seen one than you haven't seen one. Only certain people have that privilege

        God doesn't work like that where he exposes himself to his creation. You search for him, he doesn't have to do anything


        I sound like a kid ...you mean kids go around asking evidence? Those ar some wise kids then. Wiser than adults.

        you saw Jinn and Angels ....have no evidence for it ...and it's people asking for evidence that this happened by scientific reproduceability who are delusional

        ok there.

        He doesn't work lie that where he exposes himsself to his creation, then why do you believe in "Him" without evidence rather than search for evidence

        and how do you know how God works or doesn't ARE you God, what evidence do you have on how God works?
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • Originally posted by کیش View Post
          Where's the evidence that there is no god? And please don't say there isn't any sense that is your argument about the existence of god.


          I wanna see good ol detective evidence that says no god. I wanna see evidence of evidence of the actual evidence

          No one here is suggesting there is no God.

          so this is a strawman at best.
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • Originally posted by کیش View Post
            Do you believe your beliefs? To go to death where you'll obviously find out if you were wrong or not. Or your still searching for the "truth."


            Directed towards oxymandius also

            So you're saying that how true something is based on what people are willing to do for it?


            SO if there were Tooth Fairy Suicide bombers ...the truth fairy becomes real?

            really think about how stupid that sounds.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • The evidence is the workings all around you. The childish behavior of being blind about it is your own problem. Like I said science attempts to explain the workings of God.

              Where is the evidence of no god? Is there any, or are you waiting for your favorite scientist to come up with an answer so you claim it as your own?

              Strawman, red herring fancy words for people who practice it. Not fooling me by claiming I do it, when you know all the fancy tricks in the book, ahh I mean evidence scientifically experimented by your favorite scientists of today yesteryears.
              Last edited by کیش; 12-12-2012, 12:49 PM.

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              • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                Do you believe your beliefs? To go to death where you'll obviously find out if you were wrong or not. Or your still searching for the "truth."


                Directed towards oxymandius also

                The fear of what you may face after death compels you to lie to yourself just so you could be on the safe side in case you are wrong?? What sort of a belief is that??
                I would be wary of any religion or idea that discourages me or takes away from me the right to question it. Simply because, if the promised truth is the ultimate truth, I should end up there at the end of the day anyways.. So why would one not be allowed to find out for sure and on their own??


                "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                • You worship and are satisfied by the work yet ignore the worker who completed it. Paintings paint themselves, smh


                  Yes, I am a snake just like everyone else. But I admit it and am not delusional about it. I have my own intentions

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                  • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                    The evidence is the workings all around you.
                    Where? All I see around me is evidence that science is on the right track.


                    The childish behavior of being blind about it is your own problem. Like I said science attempts to explain the workings of God.
                    Which is it? Does science try to explain something, or is it a 'stick your head in the sand and ignore reality religion' like you claim?


                    Where is the evidence of no god?
                    Already answered.


                    Is there any, or are you waiting for your favorite scientist to come up with an answer so you claim it as your own?
                    That's not how it works. Again, you might want to learn what science is.


                    Strawman, red herring fancy words for people who practice it. Not fooling me by claiming I do it, when you know all the fancy tricks in the book, ahh I mean evidence scientifically experimented by your favorite scientists of today yesteryears.
                    I'm sorry, when you get agitated your English becomes too hard to understand. That looks like gibberish to me. Take several deep breaths, and please try again.
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                    "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                    "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                    أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                    (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                    • Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post

                      The fear of what you may face after death compels you to lie to yourself just so you could be on the safe side in case you are wrong?? What sort of a belief is that??
                      I would be wary of any religion or idea that discourages me or takes away from me the right to question it. Simply because, if the promised truth is the ultimate truth, I should end up there at the end of the day anyways.. So why would one not be allowed to find out for sure and on their own??


                      BINGO!

                      If your religion is true, how can you *possibly* fear what science finds? The only ones that have anything to fear from science are those with doubts.
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                      "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                      "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                      أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                      (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                      • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                        The evidence is the workings all around you. The childish behavior of being blind about it is your own problem. Like I said science attempts to explain the workings of God.

                        Where is the evidence of no god? Is there any, or are you waiting for your favorite scientist to come up with an answer so you claim it as your own?

                        Strawman, red herring fancy words for people who practice it. Not fooling me by claiming I do it, when you know all the fancy tricks in the book, ahh I mean evidence scientifically experimented by your favorite scientists of today yesteryears.


                        That's what I am saying how do you know that what you claim is "the evidence around me" Can Only be caused by God ...as opposed to simply natural occuences.This is what is what I mean by evidence, that it isolates that ONLY God could be the only explanation.

                        Where is it?

                        The question you're making is a straw-man since no one here has made the proclamation.

                        You ARE doing it, When you're assuming that someone is claiming something different than they say they are. This is called a Straw-man can't do anything about definitions.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                          You worship and are satisfied by the work yet ignore the worker who completed it. Paintings paint themselves, smh
                          Who is worshipping? Who is claiming that paintings painted themselves? I think you are confused again... Science would reject that claim -- BASED ON THE EVIDENCE.



                          Yes, I am a snake just like everyone else. But I admit it and am not delusional about it. I have my own intentions

                          You are quite delusional about it. You claim to have seen mythical creatures, and delude yourself about what science is, just to find an excuse to reject it...
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                          "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                          "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                          أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                          (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                          • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            That's what I am saying how do you know that what you claim is "the evidence around me" Can Only be caused by God ...as opposed to simply natural occuences.This is what is what I mean by evidence, that it isolates that ONLY God could be the only explanation.

                            Where is it?

                            The question you're making is a straw-man since no one here has made the proclamation.

                            You ARE doing it, When you're assuming that someone is claiming something different than they say they are. This is called a Straw-man can't do anything about definitions.
                            I may just give up on that poster. We don't even have enough of a middle ground to have an intelligent conversation, with their unwillingness to accept definitions of words, the insistence of swapping religion and science around, and the inability to discuss the issue like adults....
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                            "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                            "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                            أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                            (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                            • No one is denying science. You need the knowledge of science and spirituality to be complete. But spirituality>>>> science.

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                              • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                                You worship and are satisfied by the work yet ignore the worker who completed it. Paintings paint themselves, smh


                                Yes, I am a snake just like everyone else. But I admit it and am not delusional about it. I have my own intentions


                                We have observed painters painting therefore we know by evidence a paintng had a painte You assume that because painters are painted that the universe needs a painter

                                this is called the Watchmaker fallacy. It assumes that because humans are responsble for creating complex things then God is responsible for creating a complex universe
                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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