Ayatal Kursi (Al Quran Al Karim 2:255)

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Let us discuss this verse.

YouTube - Ayat Al Kursi (2:255) Recited by Abdul Basset Abdus Samed

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I will present the full translation, that I like, and then we will go for a word by word translation.

I would like to get everyone involved. If everyone equally participates we could probably venture on many paths. Don't be afraid to express your opinion, even if it is wrong. I will help you all out. Also, I will present Quranic verses to help guide you where you went wrong with your opinion and where you were right.

May Allah help us!

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

اللّهُ لاَ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ لاَ تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلاَ نَوْمٌ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ مَن ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِهِ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلاَ يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِّنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلاَّ بِمَا شَاءَ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَؤُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ

[2:255] Allah--there is no God but He, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. Slumber seizes Him not, nor sleep. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that will intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; and they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He pleases. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth; and the care of them burdens Him not: and He is the High, the Great.

[شمله ور خراساني]

I will present the full translation, that I like, and then we will go for a word by word translation.

Subhan allah, the arrogance of this qadiani. He wants to translate Qur'an. What is your qualification?

Don't be afraid to express your opinion, even if it is wrong. I will help you all out. Also, I will present Quranic verses to help guide you where you went wrong with your opinion and where you were right.

How is it possible that you (person who believes that a Punjabi agent of the British army and died in a toilet is a new prophet) are going to correct people and guide poeple in understanding Qur'an while you are the most misguided one here?

I would like to get everyone involved. If everyone equally participates we could probably venture on many paths.

With you, undoubtedly many paths of misguidance.

May Allah help us!

May allah guide you to Islam.

[Baygham]

Subhan allah, the arrogance of this qadiani. He wants to translate Qur'an. What is your qualification?

How is it possible that you (person who believes that a Punjabi agent of the British army and died in a toilet is a new prophet) are going to correct people and guide poeple in understanding Qur'an while you are the most misguided one here?

With you, undoubtedly many paths of misguidance.


May allah guide you to Islam.

His arrogance come from being a direct appointee of her majesty the queen, whose forefathers guided his prophet, hazrath gulam qadian mirza (saw), to great wisdom,
but why the double standards, the same british raj, made the wahabis, the sole arbitrators of the holy lands. and you yourself are a humble servant of your own queen and dare not say a word against her, but are willing to trash any if they err from the british mandated wahabi doctrine (you call it ahli - hadith, same s ** t to the rest of us.)

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Sangar Jana, you had your full now. You will obviously object to everything I say or do. However, do keep in mind that the way to counter me is by proving me wrong with the Quran, at least that is how I will present my arguments.

Listen, dear brother, I will never trade you for sell-outs like Qrratugai who will choose a Muslim hater any day over a Muslim; someone who will always agree with those who attack and abuse Islam; someone who presents herself as a "Muslim" but has gone as far as saying that there is the possibility that God does not exist or that there is the possibility of infinite gods. You, I love dearly--no matter what. However, don't attack me blindly all the time. Work with me.

Anyhow, Sangar Khana, I get happy when I see you online, but I get dishearted at your approach, not only with me but everyone else also. Take it easy dear brother. The status of Allah, the Quran or the Prophet (saw) will not diminish if a few ignorant and arrogant people attack blindly. However, it is your duty to correct them, of course by presenting verses from the Quran--something which I have offered to do.

As you can see, you are allowed to express your opinion, just do it in a civilized manner. My dear brother, if you behave as such, how can you tell people to not mock Islam. If someone mocks continuous then give them a tit for tat, and then leave it at that.

May Allah help us all.

[Baygham]

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Listen, dear brother, I will never trade you for sell-outs like Qrratugai who have even gone as far as saying that there is a possibility that God does not exist or that there is the possibility of infinite gods. You, I love dearly--no matter what. However, don't attack me blindly all the time. Work with me. ...............................

Hey MWMN tell me one thing, why do you hate or are unwilling to share a world with non-voilent non believers and call them names yet you call a guy your friend whose only purpose in life is to demean you and if an oppurtunity arose will slaughter your whole family for his beliefs (example pakistan). I know the answer but just want to know your response and for that matter sangar's too,

under no circumstance is he willing to share anything with you or you with Qurantugai for the hatred in both of you come from the same place, from a deep seated fear of God with total disregard to reality and common sense here on earth.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Hey MWMN tell me one thing, why do you hate or are unwilling to share a world with non-voilent non believers and call them names yet you call a guy your friend whose only purpose in life is to demean you and if an oppurtunity arose will slaughter your whole family for his beliefs (example pakistan). I know the answer but just want to know your response and for that matter sangar's too,

under no circumstance is he willing to share anything with you or you with Qurantugai for the hatred in both of you come from the same place, from a deep seated fear of God with total disregard to reality and common sense here on earth.

You are a "non-violent" non-believer? Please. You take every opportunity to bash Islam. You mock Islam and Muslims right, left and center. You are promoting misinformed information about Islam, e.g. that Islam equal terrorism. Who are you kidding? If you had the power you would probably want to obliterate anything Islamic from the face of the earth. So don't come here with your non-violent non-believer. All of the violence on earth is the by-product of you non-believers. So, save it for someone else who is uneducated.

As Ahmadi, it is a condition upon me to love every single human being, especially Muslims, no ifs or buts about it, no matter what they do to us. We only invoke Allah's help, for they are all His creatures. However, I will not keep quiet when it comes time to put people in their spot, and that does not equal hatred. It is simply making them aware that people are not fooled.

With Muslims I have everything in common; with you I have nothing. All I know is that you hate my religion. With Qrratugai, I have nothing in common for she is simply using Islam as an academic interest. If it was not academic interest, she would never dare to say that God does not exist and claim to be a Muslim at the same time. She can only fool the fooled people like herself. As far as other human beings are concerned, I don't have a problem with them, as long as they criticize by first informing themselves.

Baygham, you don't have the decency to inform yourself, you purposely look for anti-Islamic website to promote your stupid believes about Islam.

Baygham, you are worst than or perhaps equal to Iblis. You are one sly, double-sided sword. You are so conniving and corrupted. You are what we call in Urdu: mithi churi, a sweet knife.

[Baygham]

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Baygham, you are worst than or perhaps equal to Iblis. You are one sly, double-sided sword. You are so conniving and corrupted. You are what we call in Urdu: mithi churi, a sweet knife.

Thanks man, I did not expect such laurels to be bestowed upon me so early in life, I will have this inscribed on my tomb stone (that is if i dont get blown to smitherines by a faithful first).

I am narrowing my search for God and how he has this irrational hold on humans. And day by day, thanks to irrationals like MWMN and sangar I am getting closer to God. insn't that amazing.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You have the arrogant ability to see the straw in our eyes, yet you fail to see the log in your own. Whatever floats your boat.