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  • Is working in Bank forbidden (HARAM) in Islam?

    Unreasonable amounts of loan/interest is haram, that i am aware of. But really, if there was no bank, then we use willow branches to as a type of currency? Why not someone just counterfied cash by chopping down willow trees?

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    Banks, modern economy etc... are probably all haram, especially since they are coming from non muslim economic systems. some times I think we will all get destroyed soon, because we are all doing haram willingly or without our knowledge. Only some communities living in isolation will be saved
    Last edited by Karachi; 02-18-2013, 11:47 PM.

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    • #3
      Unreasonable amounts of loan/interest is haram
      I thought charging ANY interest was haram.
      په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
      دلته وهي

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SiiNii View Post
        I thought charging ANY interest was haram.
        Islamically it is, but of course today people are coming with excuses because the whole world is running on interest

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          Banks, modern economy etc... are probably all haram, especially since they are coming from non muslim economic systems. some times I think we will all get destroyed soon, because we are all doing haram willingly or without our knowledge. Only some communities living in isolation will be saved
          some societies are jahil anyways. Some communities along the Durand line still use barter trading, or trading with physical items. Some mix their cash with banknotes/coins and physical items. Like Afghanistan should rename it's currency to an Afghan Dinar or Afghan ruppee, like wtf who calls it an Afghani?

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          • #6
            For a true Wahabi Muslim everything is haram except having at least 4 wives, a beard more than one fist, clothes above the ankle, miswak, killing into pieces of all non Muslims and Muslim friends of non Muslims!!!!!!!

            What a strange question that now banking and working in a bank is also haram? Why we depreciate the word haram to include millions of banks and millions of people working in banks in Muslim countries .

            Haram should be used for murders, corruption, cheating, adulteration, robbery, injustice, ignorance all rampant in Muslims countries not for petty things like one can eat a beaf burger in McDonald or not or for major financial institutions like banks.
            Last edited by Badlun; 02-19-2013, 04:54 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
              For a true Wahabi Muslim everything is haram except having at least 4 wives, a beard more than one fist, clothes above the ankle, miswak, killing into pieces of all non Muslims and Muslim friends of non Muslims!!!!!!!

              What a strange question that now banking and working in a bank is also haram? Why we depreciate the word haram to include millions of banks and millions of people working in banks in Muslim countries .

              Haram should be used for murders, corruption, cheating, adulteration, robbery, injustice, ignorance all rampant in Muslims countries not for petty things like one can eat a beaf burger in McDonald or not or for major financial institutions like banks.


              Make a list of things YOU think should be Halal and Harram; I want to see what you come up with.
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                Make a list of things YOU think should be Halal and Harram; I want to see what you come up with.
                According to his suffism wine is halaal, bank interest is not haraam because it is modern, homosexuality is halaal because its a new modern trend in the west.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                  For a true Wahabi Muslim everything is haram except having at least 4 wives, a beard more than one fist, clothes above the ankle, miswak, killing into pieces of all non Muslims and Muslim friends of non Muslims!!!!!!!

                  What a strange question that now banking and working in a bank is also haram? Why we depreciate the word haram to include millions of banks and millions of people working in banks in Muslim countries .

                  Haram should be used for murders, corruption, cheating, adulteration, robbery, injustice, ignorance all rampant in Muslims countries not for petty things like one can eat a beaf burger in McDonald or not or for major financial institutions like banks.
                  My friend, I really do not want to be disrespectfull, but if You are a person intrested in Sufism You should not only look on the surface but see deeper. If Haram is robbery and injustice, than how can't you see the robbery and injustice of banking systems?
                  I do not say that I use no banking system, i unfortunately do since some month, because with the new rules i cannot get my salary anymore directly, however i think we should be aware of many consequences of the banking system. I do not think we need always to confront extremes, like " or being for globalization tendencies or being a fanatic".
                  Millions of people do what they shouldn't do, even I do unfortunately things, I am completely against often having no choice or not having enough force to oppose. However others blindness is not an excuse for you not to be aware.

                  Here is a strict line between faith and religion.
                  Faith is when your deeds are done by faith in their sense and being aware of the global consequences of your local deeds.
                  Religion is a substitute of faith, when your deeds are done not of awareness and faith, but uf rite and tradition, only with hands, but not with heart and mind.

                  I would see it like this...
                  Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                  Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                  Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                  Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                  Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                  Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                  • #10
                    Chill out Badlun,

                    charging interest is a recent thing (AFAIK), Christians didn't do it either. Interest is the reason why those in debt, stay in debt, or otherwise stay in debt much longer than they would have without interest fees. Some Americans also think that many modern banking practices are immoral (google Occupy Wall St).
                    په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
                    دلته وهي

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                      For a true Wahabi Muslim everything is haram except having at least 4 wives, a beard more than one fist, clothes above the ankle, miswak, killing into pieces of all non Muslims and Muslim friends of non Muslims!!!!!!!

                      What a strange question that now banking and working in a bank is also haram? Why we depreciate the word haram to include millions of banks and millions of people working in banks in Muslim countries .

                      Haram should be used for murders, corruption, cheating, adulteration, robbery, injustice, ignorance all rampant in Muslims countries not for petty things like one can eat a beaf burger in McDonald or not or for major financial institutions like banks.
                      than why do we have interest based banking in Saudi Arabia and even Makkah? I hate wahabhism, but seriously you need to educate yourself on things before speaking.

                      Also can you ignore that Interest is one of the biggest sins in Islam?
                      Last edited by Karachi; 02-19-2013, 06:17 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Banking in general is not haram but interest is like the others users had said.
                        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                        -Old Pashtun proverb




                        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                        • #13
                          This is how "Islamic banking" works

                          When a business goes for a loan so they can add capital, the bank doesn't collect interest back on the loan, but own a percentage of the corporation (based on the loan amount).

                          If an individual wants to depost money to let's say a saving accounts, it is treated like an equity investment, and the individual is entitled to a percentage of profits. To be based on what deals the bank flows with the money.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by کیش View Post
                            This is how "Islamic banking" works

                            When a business goes for a loan so they can add capital, the bank doesn't collect interest back on the loan, but own a percentage of the corporation (based on the loan amount).

                            If an individual wants to depost money to let's say a saving accounts, it is treated like an equity investment, and the individual is entitled to a percentage of profits. To be based on what deals the bank flows with the money.
                            how is that any different than charging interest??

                            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Friend View Post
                              According to his suffism wine is halaal, bank interest is not haraam because it is modern, homosexuality is halaal because its a new modern trend in the west.


                              um ok ...I didn't know your name is Badlun
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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