Sufism: Deviant Sites

[Baygham]

You said elsewhere that you are a scholar. A scholar in what exactly? because I am curious to know in which academic discipline they teach people to be so smart to demand such silly stuff as what you are demanding.

Everytime someone says something stupid I should feel obliged to rectify them otherwise I am wrong by default and my arguments are weak?

I want to obtain a scholars title as well. Where did you get it. It seems it was given to you when you purchased a sports magazine or a sandwich.

And for the sake of argument: I did answer Wrayun. He asked if electronics is innovation, if so then why are Muslims using modern electronics. I replied to him by saying that electronics is not ibadat ( acts of worship). They are mu'amalat ( common matters).

There is a ban in innovating acts of worship in Islam. Suppose I listen to recitation of Quran in my car with an mp3 player. Is the act of worship, which is listening to recitation of quran changed in any sense since I listen to a recorded session? No. The act of worship still remains the same.

Similarly, suppose I read a PDF version of quran instead of a book or a leather scroll. Is the act of worship here innovated? No. Because the act of worship still is the same thing. There is nothing new about it.


Allah says in the quran that he has perfected our religion. And the verse was revealed when the prophet muhammad saww was still alive. So the religion was perfected.

Therefore we are not allowed to add more stuff to relgion that did not existed before.

I am always amazed at people who claim to love philosophy. You lot (including wrayun) are the ones who claim philosophy is beneficial. Yet, logic which is one of the essential disciplines in philosophy appears to be rocket science to you people.

What about a ayah tatooted on a girls bu tt, would reading that be like reading a pdf or is ok under maumalaath if the right hand posess that women.

[شمله ور خراساني]

What about a ayah tatooted on a girls bu tt, would reading that be like reading a pdf or is ok under maumalaath if the right hand posess that women.

No. Thats actually an act of degrading the words of allah. And the woman who allows this to happen to her needs to be beheaded, including the person who puts the tatoo on her. And preferably in a public square.

(taken from majmu al fatawa al khurasaniya)

[unknownprince]

Baygham, what is the point of that hypothetical, to prove what exactly?

[Baygham]

Baygham, what is the point of that hypothetical, to prove what exactly?

that shimla is full of poop.

[Baygham]

No. Thats actually an act of degrading the words of allah. And the woman who allows this to happen to her needs to be beheaded, including the person who puts the tatoo on her. And preferably in a public square.

(taken from majmu al fatawa al khurasaniya)

How is that degrading, have you seen those cute bunnies just above the gluteal fold, show me the hadith or ayah, or are you doing bidath.

[Dust]

Shimlah,

I am really amazed at your counter arguments. Do you even bother to read what your opponent has to say?

Your post has nothing to do with my post.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Shimlah,

I am really amazed at your counter arguments. Do you even bother to read what your opponent has to say?

Your post has nothing to do with my post.

it has everything to do with your post. And unfortunately I have wasted allot of time reading the crap most people post here.

[شمله ور خراساني]

How is that degrading, have you seen those cute bunnies just above the gluteal fold, show me the hadith or ayah, or are you doing bidath.

You are like you are hiding in some kaafir country.

[unknownprince]

yeah Baygham, how do you know all this stuff about some bunnies :P

[unknownprince]

i don't understand how there can never be a serious discussion without someone throwing insults or indirect messages .

There can never be an educational debate that does not turn into an insult throwing comedy

[Baygham]

You are like you are hiding in some kaafir country.

That would be you in netherland.

yeah Baygham, how do you know all this stuff about some bunnies :P

just keeping abreast of the ways of the enemy for the sake of Allah and the Umma.

I am sure shimla can dig out a hadith to make it ligit, ts not against quran or sunnah as far as I know.

[Baygham]

I am not hiding. I live here and I speak up and say what I belive.

But you, you use the laws of kufr to come online and abuse the religion of other people. Therefore you are hding.

Because would you be back among Muslims in Pashtunkhwa, you will be probably chpped into pieces and paraded in the village centre for saying the nasty stuff you say here.

you should be very thankfull of your tolerant Queen Beatrix who doesnot chip up lunatics like you, for I certainly would not have been so forgiving.

So go out and bend down prostrate to your Queen and kiss her feet a few times.

[unknownprince]

this is a boring unintellectual conversation to say the least.

Someone go and respond to my question about the Hotak dynasty, I read somewhere that it is a tribe too, although I have so far not heard of anyone who is a Hotak. Maybe there are, but I don't have much knowledge of Pashtun tribes. Someone address my question.

[unknownprince]

i guess i just killed the conversation lol