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  • #16
    Originally posted by Abu Hurayrah View Post
    I don't call nor consider myself as a ''wahaabi''. If a person which is sane and above all, an aalim, and still slanders Aishah (ra), he is a Kaafir, There is an Ijmaa' on that, and the names of the Ulama I provided. And Aishah Siddiqa (ra) was not only a Sahabiyah, she was our mother and the wife of the prophet (s.a.w).

    Maybe you should read works of Ibn Taymiyyah since you consider him to be the father of the Wahhaabi movement, he is the most hated person on the face of this earth by the shia'. And no one refuted them with in such details as he did, I think you and I should be thankfull to those efforts instead of treating them as outlaws. I nowhere judged Sunni Ulama, I did judge Individuals who where occupied with their routines, I judge young men who are demonstrating and shouting in the streets of Pakistan, India, London and Birmingham on the planned burning of the Qur'aan day, but showing silence when a group of filth is gathered and insult our mother, as a provocation.

    Why do you think Salahuddin Ayubi fought the Shia before he fought the crusaders? Read that history aswell, I don't say we fight them with the sword, but it would be appropriate to stand up against this. The mainstream muslim scholars should use their pen and write, they should refute, and give lectures on the desease with has been spread by these people for centuries, and especially now, when the issue has been raised.

    And I should note, that ahl us sunnah does not consider shi'ites to be Kufaar in general. But they consider us to be Kufaar. Because we reject the myth of their concept of imamah, which is a Usul of their Deen. And never can it be accepted that a Shia comes to us, and tells us, come on , where are brothers, (considers you a nasibi and kafir according to his holy imam) and curses you mother, and then tells you to be brothers, because Islam is brotherhood. It is just not possible, except if that person does not know what shiism is and contains.

    Anyone who slanders her aswell, Allah (swt) said in the interpretation of the aya, and do not repeat it or the like of it.

    History testifies that a Shia killed Hussayn radi allahu anhu, whos name was ibn al Jawshan. History also mentions that Yazeed did not approve of the beheading of the grandson of the prophet (s.a.w),

    The fact that he rebelled, and waged war, which resulted in the killing of the Ahl Bayt, was a grave sin, and Allah will be judging him for his actions.
    You do not consider yourself a wahabi, that's fine. do you consider yourself a salafi then? I told you already Slandering Aisha is different than cursing, if someone says naoo`thobillah Aisha did A B C, then they are kafir because Allah SWT has cleared her name in the Quran. If someone says a curse to Aisha, then that's where the difference comes...simple na?

    I have read book of ibn taymiyyah, why do you assume I have'nt? You think only `ibn taymiyyah dealt a blow to the shia? Do you know how much of a blow other ulama dealt to them? starting with the 4 imams to Imam Ghazali (ra), do you know what he did to the Ahmedis?...Have you read those books?

    I agree with the rest of your post.
    The fact that he rebelled, and waged war, which resulted in the killing of the Ahl Bayt, was a grave sin, and Allah will be judging him for his actions.
    And it is OK to say Radhi`Allahu Anhum? :D...

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    • #17
      Sufis are more or less crypto-shi'ites. The similarity between shi'a and sufi very obvious. Both worship their saints and imams and have deviant beliefs. Both are now allied with the kuffaar against islam. And both actively fight against islam.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
        Sufis are more or less crypto-shi'ites. The similarity between shi'a and sufi very obvious. Both worship their saints and imams and have deviant beliefs. Both are now allied with the kuffaar against islam. And both actively fight against islam.
        shias and sufis or non Wahabis or Muqledeen or non-Ahle Hadith (almost 90% of Muslims) are united against Alqaida, Taliban, Ahle Hadith, Wahabis and Ghair Muqledeen not against Islam. Islam does not mean only you Wahabis.

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        • #19
          Taliban where ''wahabis''? LOL

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