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    YouTube - "Be Peacemakers", Sermon by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, Eid Al-Fitr 2010

    Eid 2010 Khutbah...This is an awesome khutbah. I urge my brothers and sisters to listen to it. This is Islam!

  • #2
    No peace to the occupiers, agressors, war-mongerers, killers.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
      No peace to the occupiers, agressors, war-mongerers, killers.
      Ameen!

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      • #4
        What does Hamza Yusuf say about the massacre of one million Iraqis and the indiscriminate bombing of Afghans with depleted Uranium?

        "make peace" ? LOL
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        • #5
          Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
          What does Hamza Yusuf say about the massacre of one million Iraqis and the indiscriminate bombing of Afghans with depleted Uranium?

          "make peace" ? LOL
          He claims the war is illegal.

          Have you read listening to his lectures/writings? or Zaid Shakirs? If not why do you poke fun?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Haneef View Post
            He claims the war is illegal.

            Have you read listening to his lectures/writings? or Zaid Shakirs? If not why do you poke fun?

            Wow? Did he really say that? Then he must be really somebody. I am going to plead allegiance to him and ask him to allow me to enter his sufi order.
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            • #7
              Without technological power and in the presence of just faith as a source of peace , a nation can just get a piece of mind from the strong nations not the peace which brings prosperity and progress.

              The Sufis are certified loosers who intellectulise their loser mentality to deceive those naive minds which are obsessed with fear of the unseen.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by muhsina View Post
                Without technological power and in the presence of just faith as a source of peace , a nation can just get a piece of mind from the strong nations not the peace which brings prosperity and progress.

                The Sufis are certified loosers who intellectulise their loser mentality to deceive those naive minds which are obsessed with fear of the unseen.
                Exactly, that was also said by Said Jamaludeen Al-Afghani in one of his books. Sufisms was initially re-introduced by the west in the muslim countries, after they failed to defeat the muslims militarily and ideologically after the colonization of the muslim lands. So they thought this passive, other-worldy sect passify the muslims, they would only think about the other world and don't think about material and technological advancement, so that in the end the muslim countries would be weak, without power and passive.

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                • #9
                  Muslims are sufis as far as science and technology is concerned.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by muhsina View Post
                    Muslims are sufis as far as science and technology is concerned.
                    That will change soon inshallah, when the muslims achieve their sovereighnty back in their lands and rule with the law of Allah (swt). Only then we will be able to freely develop all the different sciences and become strong and independent. Now many muslims are poor and illiterate, that's why they are easily controlled and manipulated by the external and internal enemies. But that will all change inshallah when a truly Islamic state is established with the rule of Allah (swt), the Shariah. Then there will be no more injustices, corruption and oppression, the recources of the country (the muslim countries are rich in natural resources) and be shared by all the population (not just among the rich) and because there will be peace, people will have the chance to get educated and self-reliant.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
                      That will change soon inshallah, when the muslims achieve their sovereighnty back in their lands and rule with the law of Allah (swt). Only then we will be able to freely develop all the different sciences and become strong and independent. Now many muslims are poor and illiterate, that's why they are easily controlled and manipulated by the external and internal enemies. But that will all change inshallah when a truly Islamic state is established with the rule of Allah (swt), the Shariah. Then there will be no more injustices, corruption and oppression, the recources of the country (the muslim countries are rich in natural resources) and be shared by all the population (not just among the rich) and because there will be peace, people will have the chance to get educated and self-reliant.
                      LOL.

                      And mullah omar with his damaged frontal lobe (shrapnel ? gunshot wound with associated epilepsy) will make the leading scientific discoveries.

                      In this communist utopia of sharing, stalin and castro will be at the same level as Umar (not the mullah the other one) and Mo. The islamic madrassa educated populace will be inventing the next shuttle to mars or Janath-ul-firdos, which ever is considered closer by the highly esteemed cosmologically inclined seminary in akora khattak. The cure of cancer will be discovered in Raiwand, though not pashtoon is ummah land and thus even more pious. Inflation/deflation worries will go away with monetary injections from the harem-shareef Reyadh by one of the many pious courtesans of king abdullah (that his right hand possesses and are also so eloquently mentioned in the Quran) who also promises to share this "booty" with mullah omar.

                      Give me a break.
                      Last edited by Baygham; 09-20-2010, 05:33 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                        LOL.

                        And mullah omar with his damaged frontal lobe (shrapnel ? gunshot wound with associated epilepsy) will make the leading scientific discoveries.

                        In this communist utopia of sharing, stalin and castro will be at the same level as Umar (not the mullah the other one) and Mo. The islamic madrassa educated populace will be inventing the next shuttle to mars or Janath-ul-firdos, which ever is considered closer by the highly esteemed cosmologically inclined seminary in akora khattak.

                        Give me a break.
                        I am not saying this will happen from one day to another. But this will only happen when there is an climate for scientific discovery and research. A country only prospers and develops, when there is peace and stability. And as far as we know the Taliban are the only group/party who can provide that. So in that climate there will be also development at all levels of society. First the mentality of the people has to be changed. They should be morally and spiritually uplifted and they should have a strong imaan. Secondly they should be educated in the Islamic and other sciences, I mean real education, not the American version of Islam that is educated nowadays. Only then will the Islamic ummah prosper and develop, just as it did in the first centuries of Islam, it was then at the pinnacle of civilization and science. Europe was then in the middle-ages. But since we have left the teachings of the Quran and became ignorant, our downfall had began. So we should go back and revive our religion, only then will we develop and prospers in this world and be saved in the here-after. This is not an utopica, this is a plan based on reality and divine knowledge.

                        Islam, Science and Civilisation

                        Thursday, 26 February 2009 21:15 Adnan Khan


                        For the last two centuries the world has witnessed unprecedented leaps in science and technology, the development of railways, aeroplanes, nuclear technology, the Internet, IVF and genetically modified food. Such developments have taken place in parallel to the development of the West, reaching levels unparalleled in history. This monopolisation of technological and scientific inventions has led to the belief that liberal values are a pre-requisite for development.
                        Most thinkers, scientists and philosophers claim Islam has no place in the world today. This view is built upon the premise that none of the Muslim countries have produced anything in terms of scientific research or technological invention. The West claims that progress in science and technology occurred when the West rid itself of the authority of the Church and separated religion from life. For them the church stifled the development of science and reason as religion is inherently built upon faith and superstition. Only with its removal from the public sphere did the West manage to launch an industrial revolution and then flourish. Today for liberals it is they who invented science as we know it. They claim they laid its foundations and have created its numerous branches.

                        Such a narrative omits a number of historical developments that are not Western and shows how the West continues to view its history as the history of the world. Such a narrative also conveniently omits what the West took from previous civilisations and especially the Islamic civilisation. Historically all civilisations have been characterised with some form of technological and scientific development. The West has documented the contributions the Romans made to the discipline whilst the Islamic world in the 8th - 10th century translated the works of the Greeks in the area.
                        Science in essence is the study, research, and experimentation into the observable parts of the universe.
                        The development of automobiles was due primarily to the development of the combustion engine. This is where the burning of fuel in an engine acts on the pistons causing the movement of the solid parts, eventually moving the automobile. This was possible due to the British Empire who originally used steam and then coal to drive pistons and then eventually to generate rotary (motion) to move machines. Such developments where based upon Al-Jazari's work in the 12th century where he invented the crankshaft, and created rotary motion through the use of rods and cylinders. He was the first to incorporate it into a machine.
                        A parachute is a device used to slow the motion of an object through an atmosphere by creating drag. Current day parachutes were developed from the designs and experiments of the past. In the 9th century, Ibn Firnas invented a primitive version of the parachute. He jumped from the minaret of the Mezquita mosque in Córdoba using a huge wing-like cloak to break his fall and landed with minor injuries. Subsequent Parachutes were made more compact and from stretched linen over a wooden frame. Then folded silk, was developed as the material for parachutes taking advantage of silk's strength and light weight.
                        Such examples amongst others show that no civilisation can lay claim to science belonging inherently to them but rather they made a contribution to this universal area. The fact atoms and molecules are subjected to the rules of the universe which can be manipulated will not change if one is a Muslim, Christian or a liberal. This is something that is universal and not affected by one's belief. The real debate is therefore which civilisation made significant contributions to science and what exactly drove them to excel in the field.
                        The Islamic golden age is considered to be the period from the 8th century to the 13th century. During this period, engineers, scholars and traders in the Islamic world contributed to the arts, agriculture, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, and technology, both by preserving and building upon earlier traditions and by adding to them. Howard Turner, an expert on medieval history mentioned in his book ‘Science in Medieval Islam,': ‘Muslim artists and scientists, princes and labourers together created a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent.' There were a number of specific elements within Islam that were the driving engine which motivated Muslims to excel in this field.
                        The worship of Allah سبحانه وتعالى was one such factor that led to a number of inventions. The times of the five daily prayers, the direction for Qibla and the beginning and ending of Ramadan required accurate readings of the positions of the stars and the moon. It was due to this that Muslims began to invent observational and navigational instruments. This is why most navigational stars today have Arabic names such as Acamar, Baham, Baten Kaitos, Caph, Dabih, Furud, Izar, Lesath, Mirak, Nashira, Tarf and Vega.
                        Muslims made a number of contributions to Astronomy and eventually to the development of the astronomical clock. A Mechanical lunisolar calendar with a gear train and gear-wheels was invented by Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī in the 10th century. Based on such designs Taqi al-din invented the mechanical clock in the 15th century. The need to ascertain the Qibla led to the development of the compass, which itself was based upon the findings Muslims astronomers had collated. Muslims developed the compass rose which displayed the orientation of the cardinal directions, north, south, east and west on a map and nautical chart.
                        Allah سبحانه وتعالى says in the Holy Qur'an:
                        وَهُوَ الَّذِي جَعَلَ لَكُمُ النُّجُومَ لِتَهْتَدُواْ بِهَا فِي ظُلُمَاتِ الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ
                        "And it is He who ordained the stars for you that you may be guided thereby in the darkness of the land and the sea." [TMQ 6:97]
                        This motivated Muslims to begin to find better observational and navigational instruments. Such instruments were used to explore the world, which many Muslim geographers collated into manuals. They were driven by the ayah in the Qur'an where Allah سبحانه وتعالى says:
                        وَجَعَلْنَا فِي الْأَرْضِ رَوَاسِيَ أَن تَمِيدَ بِهِمْ وَجَعَلْنَا فِيهَا فِجَاجًا سُبُلًا لَعَلَّهُمْ يَهْتَدُونَ
                        "And we have placed in the earth firm hills lest it quake with them and we have placed therein ravines as roads that happily they may find their way." [TMQ 21:31]
                        Early Muslims understood that Islam views all the material matters which include the sciences, technology and industry, as merely the study of the reality and a study of how matter can be manipulated to improve the condition and living standards of humanity. As many lands came under the fold of the Islamic civilisation, urbanisation led to a number of developments. The Arabian Desert had scant water springs making most of the region uninhabitable. This was overcome by Muslim engineers developing canals from the Euphrates and Tigris rivers. The swamps around Baghdad were drained, freeing the city of Malaria. Muslim engineers perfected the waterwheel and constructed elaborate underground water channels called qanats. This led to the development of advanced domestic water systems with sewers, public baths, drinking fountains, piped drinking water supplies and widespread private and public toilet and bathing facilities.
                        Muslims thinkers, scientists, engineers and experts made significant contributions to science as well as many other disciplines. Many of these contributions were later used by the West who made further contributions to the field. The nature of science as a universal subject means no single civilisation can lay claim to inventing it but rather most civilisations have documented their contributions throughout history which acted as previous information when experimentation was carried out by latter civilisations. Prior to the emergence of Islam in the Middle East the host population made no contribution to science. When the very same people accepted Islam they made contributions which later generations utilised to invent new items which today still remain with us. Islam rather than being an obstacle to science, was the catalyst that drove Muslim's contribution to science.
                        Last edited by Guest; 09-20-2010, 05:36 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
                          I am not saying this will happen from one day to another. But this will only happen when there is an climate for scientific discovery and research. A country only prospers and develops, when there is peace and stability. And as far as we know the Taliban are the only group/party who can provide that. So in that climate there will be also development at all levels of society. First the mentality of the people has to be changed. They should be morally and spiritually uplifted and they should have a strong imaan. Secondly they should be educated in the Islamic and other sciences, I mean real education, not the American version of Islam that is educated nowadays. Only then will the Islamic ummah prosper and develop, just as it did in the first centuries of Islam, it was then at the pinnacle of civilization and science. Europe was then in the middle-ages. But since we have left the teachings of the Quran and became ignorant, our downfall had began. So we should go back and revive our religion, only then will we develop and prospers in this world and be saved in the here-after. This is not an utopica, this is a plan based on reality and divine knowledge.
                          Miawand wrora, that was then and this is now.

                          The Greek were at the pinnacle of civilization, the egyptians the same for thousands of years, yet today if you took greek and egyptian laws of that era and implemented in greece and egypt do you honestly think they will become the leading civilization of the day and advance science and technology.

                          Islam having worked in the 8th and 9th century (in Iraq) means absolutely nothing for it working in the 21st and 22nd century.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                            Miawand wrora, that was then and this is now.

                            The Greek were at the pinnacle of civilization, the egyptians the same for thousands of years, yet today if you took greek and egyptian laws of that era and implemented in greece and egypt do you honestly think they will become the leading civilization of the day.

                            Islam having worked in the 8th and 9th century (in Iraq) means absolutely nothing for it working in the 21st and 22nd century.
                            The difference between the Greek, Egyptian and Islamic civilization is that the Islamic civilization was rooted and based on the divine law and knowledge of the Quran. It was based on the word of God. It had a divine inspiration and knowledge. Islam is the only truth, that's why if we implement the word of God (Quran) every problem will be solved. Because the teachings of the Quran are truly universal, they are meant for the whole of humanity at any time and place. The reason why we are today so backward is because we have left the divine knowledge and laws and have adopted the man-made ideologies, systems, laws, norms and values. That's also why capitalism, the nation-state, democracy, secularism is also failing even in the west. It is a completely rotten system, where only the rich and the elite benefit from it. Islam means truly salvation and freedom for mankind.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
                              The difference between the Greek, Egyptian and Islamic civilization is that the Islamic civilization was rooted and based on the divine law and knowledge of the Quran. It was based on the word of God. It had a divine inspiration and knowledge. Islam is the only truth, that's why if we implement the word of God (Quran) every problem will be solved. Because the teachings of the Quran are truly universal, they are meant for the whole of humanity at any time and place. The reason why we are today so backward is because we have left the divine knowledge and laws and have adopted the man-made ideologies, systems, laws, norms and values. That's also why capitalism, the nation-state, democracy, secularism is also failing even in the west. It is a completely rotten system, where only the rich and the elite benefit from it. Islam means truly salvation and freedom for mankind.
                              Let me rephrase what you just wrote:

                              The main difference between my shoes and the one you are wearing is that my shoes were designed by Allah and built according to his CAD design. Therefore I ask you to stop buying any other brand of shoes and wait for my branded, Allah designed, Baygham-shoes. They are at 5000dollars a pair and when you wear them you will forget the Gellen feeling that Doctor Scholl inserts (kafir imitators) provide. Secondly all will get well with the world and the world will become so clean a place that mankind will not need to wear shoes, that will be the signal for Allah to wrap it up (qiyamat). We will all then move to heaven and resume with countless free pairs of allah designed, baygham-shoes.

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