Eid Prayer

[Saifullah]

I just watched Ramadan TV and the sheikh is organising an event in London where Eid prayer will be held outside in the open. He was saying it is wajib for the women to come to Eid prayers as well and quoted a hadith.

Umm Atiyah (ra) reported: "The Messenger of Allah (saw) commanded us to bring out on Eid-al-Fitr and Eid-al-Adha, young women, hijab-observing adult women and the menstruating women. The menstruating women stayed out of actual Salaat but participated in good deeds and Duaa (supplication). I (Umm Atiyah) said to the Holy Prophet (saw): Oh! Messenger of Allah, one does not have an outer garment. He replied: Let her sister cover her with her garment."
( Muslim )

I remember praying eid in Peshawar and didn't notice any women going for eid prayers? Is this because there is difference of opinion on this or just something cultural?

How many women on pf will be praying eid salat??

[Roshina]

Wajib for WOMEN to go to Eid Salat? How interesting is that!

But I expect people to ask something like: Who will take care of the kids if all the women -- the young, the old, the menstruating ones, the praying ones -- leave their houses to go to Eid salat? Actually, I wonder this, too.

[Mayana]

I think it's something cultural? =/

I remember back in Europe none of the women in my family ever went to Eid prayer; here in the US it's unheard of in my family to not go to Eid prayer as a woman. It's like "What's the whole point of Eid if you don't go to the Eidgaah?" You know, it's an amazing feeling to be at the convention center among 10,000 fellow Muslims on Eid day. It makes you wanna scream "TAKBEER!" at the top of your lungs because all you see is a colorful crowd of Muslims gathering and celebrating.. as far as eye can see.. SubhanAllah.

[Roshina]

Oh, and speaking of Eid prayers ...

I just found out that the Eid-ul-fitr zakat has to REACH the needy (or the people for whom it's intended) BEFORE Eid namaz. That means that when you go to the mosque or a center where you're praying and you throw like $10 in there and think that's your zakat, it's actually not the correct or acceptable way because we know for a fact that that donation is NOT going to reach anyone before the prayer ends.

So, be responsible and find someone near you who needs the money or other donation so that you don't have to put it in a box at the mosque a few seconds before prayer begins.

[Saifullah]

Qratugai i guess you are the type who wishes to stay in the house all your life, yet complain about people who don't involve women in their 'gatherings'. What an opportunity like that of Eid that all women and men gather and celebrate eid together???

Do you have kids to look after?

[Saifullah]

“The Messenger of Allah made Zakat-ul-Fitr obligatory as a purification for the fasting person from useless, non-beneficial speech (or acts) and obscene speech (or behavior), and as a means of feeding the poor. So whoever gives it before the prayer (Salat-ul-’Eid), then it is an accepted Zakah, and whoever gives it after the prayer (Salat-ul-’Eid), then it is a form of charity (Sadaqah).” (It has been mentioned previously.)

So yes it should be paid before eid salat, preferably. However it can be given late but that is disliked

[Roshina]

Qratugai i guess you are the type who wishes to stay in the house all your life, yet complain about people who don't involve women in their 'gatherings'. What an opportunity like that of Eid that all women and men gather and celebrate eid together???

Do you have kids to look after?

No, let's not make this about me or you, please.

I asked what everyone asks every time women's outing is discussed: Who will take care of the kids, then? If you take all the kids to the mosque or where the prayer is being established, it's unfair to those who want to concentrate on their prayers because kids make too much noise. Besides, normally we hear that the reason women aren't obligated to go to the mosque to pray is that they have household chores to take care of. But it becomes an exception with Eid prayers, you see.

So it's a valid question, I say.

And about your comment that "What an opportunity like that of Eid that all women and men gather and celebrate eid together???"

Do you wanna clarify? Men and women in a gathering TOGETHER? How does this work, when we're told over and over that it's haraam?

[Saifullah]

Men and women gathering yes like on Hajj have you seen it? Or no you can't see...

So no it is not haram. I am not talking about men and women gathering like they do when they watch madonna or michael jackson perform. I am talking about islamic gatherings....so please stop tryin to be ultra-clever.

Not every woman has a child to look after. If she has good reasons not to go, then i am sure she will be excused! Now look where i posted this thread???? ON PashtunForums....so it is addressing people here. I am not a president of a nation to address the whole muslim nation or something. I am sure most women on PF don't have kids to look after, so i dont know why u sayin dont make this about me or you.

Most of your time u are busy discussing stuff like you are a leader of a nation. Sorry i cant do that. I can only do what is in my ability, if i can mention stuff to a few people and give them some advice, then i can do that.....so when i discuss things it is about ME AND YOU. The Prophet (Saw) didn't talk about grand ideas when he first became a Prophet, he started from the basics. You wouldn't have seen him telling jahil people oh pray 5 times a day, he told them first believe in ONE GOD. So its about me and you, not millions of other women or men who i cannot reach

[Mayana]

There are few who have absolutely uncontrollable children.
I'm sure baby-sitting could be organized at the 'big' Eid prayers at convention centers etc. And even if it's not, the number of women with uncontrollable children is small compared to those who either have little babies who will sleep throughout the prayer, older kids (age 10 and up) who will participate in the prayer, or no kids to look after at all (us unmarried girls or women whose children are grown up).

[IamDZJ]

i don't go but it's only because it's too damaging to my anti social reputation.

[Mujib]

I just watched Ramadan TV and the sheikh is organising an event in London where Eid prayer will be held outside in the open. He was saying it is wajib for the women to come to Eid prayers as well and quoted a hadith.

I remember praying eid in Peshawar and didn't notice any women going for eid prayers? Is this because there is difference of opinion on this or just something cultural?

Eid prayer is obligatory (wajib) for men only; it is not wajib for women.

[Saifullah]

So are you mentioning that to discourage women to come to eid prayers?? By just writing a line saying it is not wajib for women?

Ok lets forget about the details whether its wajib or sunnah or watever. If women in Prophet (saw) were told to come to attend Eid prayers, shouldn't our men be doing the same???? If not even a single woman back home goes to eid prayers, that shows that there is no encouragement for women. Because they will be told repeatedly like MUJIB eid is not wajib for women. Thats it..

[Saifullah]

Also when one finds excuses for certain actions, which are not really excuses that shows our maintality.

WE all know about good reasons, like you don't have to fast if you are not able to. You are exempt from a fard like fasting depending on your situation. But if you have set your mind from before that no matter what i wont do this act. Then you can find a million excuses.

How many of us have children? How many of us have children who will turn the mosque upside down? How many of us remember the Prophet (saw) grandson delaying the prayer of the Prophet (Saw). He stayed in sujood because his grandson was on his back. Children are meant to be encouraged to go to the mosque, but all we hear is oh keep kids away they are nuisance and bla bla bla. We are people who have no rahma or mercy. Our religion many times shows us that it is part of ibadah to be kind to kids and involve them in our ibadaat.

Isn't a kid going on your shoulder a nuisance and affecting your salat?? It affected Prophet (saw) yet he didn't issue a ruling to ban kids like that from mosques.

[IamDZJ]

what is the difference between "fard" and "farz"?
it takes 5 minutes for an ordinary person to figure out the hell that is being discussed..

[Saifullah]

The purpose behind this thread was simple, it was because for me i havent seen many of our women attend Eid prayers, yet the Prophet (saw) told women they should go. I don't care about the ruling, that is not even relevant. I was just saying in Peshawar and back home not a single woman i have seen attending eid prayers and in the west its being encouraged, which i find to be really good...

Just like i don't wait for a scholars fatwa to tell me what they think about smoking cigarettes. I use my own brain to realise harm of smoking, if its makruh or haram i dont care coz i wont do it due to health risks!!!