A Sufi's Kalam....!

[Son of Mountains]

Translated poetry of my spiritual teacher, my Baba Jee:

1) The lines of soil are breathing actually
The property they have is only an estimate
Pieces of this estimate is nothing but fiction
We have named these pieces as our senses.
……….
2) There was a word which converted into a story
There was a city which converted into a graveyard
O Azeem! Time has spelled thousands of reflections
I was soil but converted into a wine-glass.
…………..
3) This soil tells too much stories to me
Many nights has been passed in this conversation
These grains of this soil were Humans once upon a time
Their races were Sheikh, Barahmin; Punjabi, Pathan.
..........
(to be continued...)

[شمله ور خراساني]

none of this is based in accordance to quran and sunnah. Its just innovation of people who wanted to imitate Hindus and Greeks.

[Son of Mountains]

none of this is based in accordance to quran and sunnah. Its just innovation of people who wanted to imitate Hindus and Greeks.

Mr Sangar, before making comment, read them with open eyes n then tell me what thing teasing ur eyes

[Son of Mountains]

none of this is based in accordance to quran and sunnah. Its just innovation of people who wanted to imitate Hindus and Greeks.

I m astonished that I posted this thread at 5:56AM
and this guy had read it, wrote a comment and posted that comment just after 2 minutes

amazing.....!!!

[شمله ور خراساني]

I m astonished that I posted this thread at 5:56AM
and this guy had read it, wrote a comment and posted that comment just after 2 minutes

amazing.....!!!

I know. Amazing, isnt it?

[spogmai shaglay]

Translated poetry of my spiritual teacher, my Baba Jee:

1) The lines of soil are breathing actually
The property they have is only an estimate
Pieces of this estimate is nothing but fiction
We have named these pieces as our senses.
……….
2) There was a word which converted into a story
There was a city which converted into a graveyard
O Azeem! Time has spelled thousands of reflections
I was soil but converted into a wine-glass.
………….. i like this the most.......

3) This soil tells too much stories to me
Many nights has been passed in this conversation
These grains of this soil were Humans once upon a time
Their races were Sheikh, Barahmin; Punjabi, Pathan.
..........
(to be continued...)

are these originallly written in Urdu????? if in urdu please post them in their original forms....

and i dont know why cant we sometimes think as human beings only... being religious should make us humanitarians first and not the other way round... i see the other thing happening..... the more religious we become the more less human we are????????

[spogmai shaglay]

The problem is extremism Spogmai khor. When you become an extremist you start saying Internet is haram. wearing pink is haram. wearing high heels is haram and what not.

I agree with you khor.

the problem Samima is that we change everything according to our needs and according to what suits us....what suits me i follow ..... what doesnt suit me and my lifestyle i make it haram for everybody........

according to me the more religious a person the more human he/she is.....

Allah talla also like a man with a soft heart... as its said sakhi dil in urdu...

anyways we should not derail Son of Mountain's thread...

i just loved all the three verses....

waiting for more to come.... the charm of the original writing is definitely morethat this....

[Son of Mountains]

for spogmaii shaglay khor:

1) The lines of soil are breathing actually
The property they have is only an estimate
Pieces of this estimate is nothing but fiction
We have named these pieces as our senses.
(Matti ki Lakeerain hen jo leti hen saans
Jageer hy paas in k fakat ik Qayaas
Tukrray jo Qayaas k hen, Mafrooza hy
In tukrron ka naam hum ne rakha hy Hawaas)
……….
2) There was a word which converted into a story
There was a city which converted into a graveyard
O Azeem! Time has spelled thousands of reflections
I was soil but converted into a wine-glass.
(Ik lafz tha, ik lafz se Afsaana hua
Ik shehr tha, ik shehr se weerana hua
Gardon ne hazar akss dalay hen Azeem
Main khaak hua khaak se paimaana hua)
…………..
3) This soil tells too much stories to me
Many nights has been passed in this conversation
These grains of this soil were Humans once upon a time
Their races were Sheikh, Barahmin; Punjabi, Pathan.
(Kehti hy ye matti bhi boht si baaten
Baton mein guzar gai hen aksar ratein
Mitti k ye zarraat kabhi insaan thay
Theen inki bhi kabhi Sheikh o Barahmin zaaten)*

*(according to increased racism at this forum, i added the word Punjabi n Pathan)

[Son of Mountains]

SOM,
I loved it. Please continue sharing.

yes samima khorey, i ll post continution very soon

[spogmai shaglay]

for spogmaii shaglay khor:

1) The lines of soil are breathing actually
The property they have is only an estimate
Pieces of this estimate is nothing but fiction
We have named these pieces as our senses.
(Matti ki Lakeerain hen jo leti hen saans
Jageer hy paas in k fakat ik Qayaas
Tukrray jo Qayaas k hen, Mafrooza hy
In tukrron ka naam hum ne rakha hy Hawaas)
……….
2) There was a word which converted into a story
There was a city which converted into a graveyard
O Azeem! Time has spelled thousands of reflections
I was soil but converted into a wine-glass.
(Ik lafz tha, ik lafz se Afsaana hua
Ik shehr tha, ik shehr se weerana hua
Gardon ne hazar akss dalay hen Azeem
Main khaak hua khaak se paimaana hua)
…………..
3) This soil tells too much stories to me
Many nights has been passed in this conversation
These grains of this soil were Humans once upon a time
Their races were Sheikh, Barahmin; Punjabi, Pathan.
(Kehti hy ye matti bhi boht si baaten
Baton mein guzar gai hen aksar ratein
Mitti k ye zarraat kabhi insaan thay
Theen inki bhi kabhi Sheikh o Barahmin zaaten)*

*(according to increased racism at this forum, i added the word Punjabi n Pathan)

Excellent Son of Mountains....the urdu transalation is the best one....English transaltion cant to justice to the original form........i just loved it.... when u post more, please post it in urdu translation too.....do u mind if i save a copy?????

[Son of Mountains]

Excellent Son of Mountains....the urdu transalation is the best one....English transaltion cant to justice to the original form........i just loved it.... when u post more, please post it in urdu translation too.....do u mind if i save a copy?????

why will i mind.....its not my property.....this is a sufi message for whole mankind. U can copy.

[king-zazai]

AUUTHUUUU BILAHIII ME NAY-SHAYTANNNN A RAGIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!

and hey samima sum1 puts innovated peorty adn u say WOW but when sum1 puts quran u dont put a comment how sad.....

[*Mahzala*]

Son of Mountains,
Mullah Sangar is our comedian here. Everything that is not Islamic in his opinion should be banned.

He is close-minded individual that probably doesn't even know what Sufism is about but just because his Mullahs told him its bad, it has to be bad.

The problem is extremism Spogmai khor. When you become an extremist you start saying Internet is haram. wearing pink is haram. wearing high heels is haram and what not.

I agree with you khor.

Samima Graane,

I think, as you would agree, there is a difference between being a comedian, a Mullah and an extremist. I am not here to take sides, but I see something wrong in the approach of the few participants toward each other in this thread (not the content - Son of Mountains, do not take this personally - please).

While I am no fan of Sufi practices I think there is always some good to take out of someone’s contributions and works. If one can decide and draw the line in such instances to say so and so were such and such, then I assume they also have the capacity to decide what is of deviant nature and what isn’t. In a space like this, it would be injustice to discuss the biographies of Sufi poets, and base them on certain poems, but to argue where to draw the line in ‘believing’ in their works and being ‘influenced’ by them should be clear. In saying that I am merely suggesting that reading poetry of such nature comes down to your confidence in your own beliefs. Filtering and consumption is thus made easy when your Aqeedah is strong, and therefore, those suggesting that it is dangerous for some, is too understandable.

In saying that, I would like to this to serve as a reminder also that the way in which we correct someone's mistakes needs a lot of thought, humility and compassion. There are volumes written on the way Rasulullah SAW corrected people in matters of Deen and, needless to say, that too is a part of Sunnah that we should implement in our lives. Instead of making bold statements about certain issues, we should attempt to explain the reasons and provide evidence and argument instead of making people rebel against our voice (which at times may be in accordance with the authentic sources).

[king-zazai]

Samima Graane,

I think, as you would agree, there is a difference between being a comedian, a Mullah and an extremist. I am not here to take sides, but I see something wrong in the approach of the few participants toward each other in this thread (not the content - Son of Mountains, do not take this personally - please).

While I am no fan of Sufi practices I think there is always some good to take out of someone’s contributions and works. If one can decide and draw the line in such instances to say so and so were such and such, then I assume they also have the capacity to decide what is of deviant nature and what isn’t. In a space like this, it would be injustice to discuss the biographies of Sufi poets, and base them on certain poems, but to argue where to draw the line in ‘believing’ in their works and being ‘influenced’ by them should be clear. In saying that I am merely suggesting that reading poetry of such nature comes down to your confidence in your own beliefs. Filtering and consumption is thus made easy when your Aqeedah is strong, and therefore, those suggesting that it is dangerous for some, is too understandable.

In saying that, I would like to this to serve as a reminder also that the way in which we correct someone's mistakes needs a lot of thought, humility and compassion. There are volumes written on the way Rasulullah SAW corrected people in matters of Deen and, needless to say, that too is a part of Sunnah that we should implement in our lives. Instead of making bold statements about certain issues, we should attempt to explain the reasons and provide evidence and argument instead of making people rebel against our voice (which at times may be in accordance with the authentic sources).

wow nicely sayed mashallah.... ur better at tellin it than me :P hehehe

[Son of Mountains]

Samima Graane,

I think, as you would agree, there is a difference between being a comedian, a Mullah and an extremist. I am not here to take sides, but I see something wrong in the approach of the few participants toward each other in this thread (not the content - Son of Mountains, do not take this personally - please).

While I am no fan of Sufi practices I think there is always some good to take out of someone’s contributions and works. If one can decide and draw the line in such instances to say so and so were such and such, then I assume they also have the capacity to decide what is of deviant nature and what isn’t. In a space like this, it would be injustice to discuss the biographies of Sufi poets, and base them on certain poems, but to argue where to draw the line in ‘believing’ in their works and being ‘influenced’ by them should be clear. In saying that I am merely suggesting that reading poetry of such nature comes down to your confidence in your own beliefs. Filtering and consumption is thus made easy when your Aqeedah is strong, and therefore, those suggesting that it is dangerous for some, is too understandable.

In saying that, I would like to this to serve as a reminder also that the way in which we correct someone's mistakes needs a lot of thought, humility and compassion. There are volumes written on the way Rasulullah SAW corrected people in matters of Deen and, needless to say, that too is a part of Sunnah that we should implement in our lives. Instead of making bold statements about certain issues, we should attempt to explain the reasons and provide evidence and argument instead of making people rebel against our voice (which at times may be in accordance with the authentic sources).

And we took the color of Allah, and whose color is better than the color of Allah?

For Miss MahZala
I 'll not continue this thread anymore....u have learnt really many things this time....may God bless u....be happy!

from me
*Thread closed*