Rethinking Islamic Reform

[Haneef]

Rethinking Islamic Reform: Hamza Yusuf & Tariq Ramadan on Vimeo

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Rethinking Islamic Reform: Hamza Yusuf & Tariq Ramadan on Vimeo

John McCain on George Bush

"If he is a reformist than I am an astronaut"

This is what you call reform:

http://www.deenresearchcenter.com/DR...S/Default.aspx

Haven't you heard?

[شمله ور خراساني]

Rethinking Islamic Reform: Hamza Yusuf & Tariq Ramadan on Vimeo

Western pets.

[Haneef]

John McCain on George Bush

"If he is a reformist than I am an astronaut"

This is what you call reform:

http://www.deenresearchcenter.com/DR...S/Default.aspx

Haven't you heard?

that's what you call reform, not us. did you bother to listen?

[Haneef]

Western pets.

and your wahabis are all what type of pets? paid by the unroyal Saudi family? Killing Muslims left and right

[شمله ور خراساني]

and your wahabis are all what type of pets? paid by the unroyal Saudi family? Killing Muslims left and right

i am not a wahhabi. neither am i paid by saudis.

Now, are you hamza yusuf or tariq ramadan? I consider those to as western pets.

Why do you retaliate by calling me names and accusing me? Or is it that those two western pets are so dear to you that you start cursing and name calling as soon as you see people disliking those two circus clowns and entertainers.

[Iqra]

It's a blessed month... fast not only with your stomach.

[Haneef]

i am not a wahhabi. neither am i paid by saudis.

Now, are you hamza yusuf or tariq ramadan? I consider those to as western pets.

Why do you retaliate by calling me names and accusing me? Or is it that those two western pets are so dear to you that you start cursing and name calling as soon as you see people disliking those two circus clowns and entertainers.

you call an aalim a pet, and then run to safety? Again, you call an aalim a pet, and then yell HELP, don't call me names.

And if you are not a wahabi, what are you? And who cursed you?

[شمله ور خراساني]

you call an aalim a pet, and then run to safety? Again, you call an aalim a pet, and then yell HELP, don't call me names.

And if you are not a wahabi, what are you? And who cursed you?

which aalim are you talking about? Hamza Yusuf who is a nurse by profession? LOL

Or Tariq Ramadan, who tried to secularize Muslims in Rotterdam and appease the kuffaar by denying jihad and many other aspects of Islam and still got booted out by his kaafir masters of the Rotterdam municipality and Erasmus University? LOL

[شمله ور خراساني]

Tariq Ramadan is like the puppy these western people buy for their kids. But when they find out they cant take care of the puppy they either leave him in the streets or donate them to the dogpound.

[Haneef]

I don't follow Tareq Ramadan. Hamza yusuf is/was a nurse by profession, there's no doubt in that. I believe he became a nurse by profession after studying the deen and obtaining ijazas. Many of the early Ulama were businessmen and such, there's nothing wrong with having a job last time I checked. Imam AbU Hanifah (ra) was a business man.

What in the video upset you? did you bother watching it?

[Haneef]

Tariq Ramadan is like the puppy these western people buy for their kids. But when they find out they cant take care of the puppy they either leave him in the streets or donate them to the dogpound.

And you are fasting? This is your akhlaaq by calling Tareq Ramadan a puppy? Don't let your emotions get the best of you, control yourself.

[شمله ور خراساني]

I don't follow Tareq Ramadan. Hamza yusuf is/was a nurse by profession, there's no doubt in that. I believe he became a nurse by profession after studying the deen and obtaining ijazas. Many of the early Ulama were businessmen and such, there's nothing wrong with having a job last time I checked. Imam AbU Hanifah (ra) was a business man.

What in the video upset you? did you bother watching it?

Hamza Yusuf received his ijaza from who? LOL. Don't make me start about his master. Who is even a bigger heretic than hamza.

And the point of him being a nurse is, is that he is not qualified as a muslims scholar. Because he received his ijaza from a total clown.

Only ijaza he has who is of any value is being a nurse. So how can you call a nurse a scholar of Islam?

I know of the video. Its old. This reformist pro western demagogues are nothing new.

We know a great deal about them. This is why they have obtained the title opf Western pets.

[شمله ور خراساني]

And you are fasting? This is your akhlaaq by calling Tareq Ramadan a puppy? Don't let your emotions get the best of you, control yourself.

let me ask YOU something buddy, are you a Muslim? If yes, then why do you mock the name of allah " Al wahhab" by labeling people as wahhabi which you use in a derogatory tone.

You sufis use the name of allah as a derogatory term and talk of akhlaaq and adab?

[Haneef]

Hamza Yusuf received his ijaza from who? LOL. Don't make me start about his master. Who is even a bigger heretic than hamza.

And the point of him being a nurse is, is that he is not qualified as a muslims scholar. Because he received his ijaza from a total clown.

Only ijaza he has who is of any value is being a nurse. So how can you call a nurse a scholar of Islam?

I know of the video. Its old. This reformist pro western demagogues are nothing new.

We know a great deal about them. This is why they have obtained the title opf Western pets.

but of course you wahabis will label everyone as heretic that doesn't agree with your one dimensional kharijite world view. You don't know the first thing about Ijaza, no one has any issues with his ijazas or his teachers, on the other hand one can google ijazas of your 3 main wahabi scholars and see if they are real or not, bin baaz, al baani and uthaymeen. The world is waking up to you current day kharijites and it will only be a matter of time that we are rid of this fitnah, walhumdulillah.