This is something so bothering me. Help please

[Feroza_Banu]

Someone that i know today was talking to me about the local mosque he attends. he was telling me that he is sad about afghans not contributing to that mosque and helping the mosque pay off its debt.

It lead to my question about how is the bank financed. he was telling me that the bank has a loan from an american bank of 1.2 million dollars and paying interest of $120000 per year.

Is this ok? building a mosque by paying interest? Isn't interest completely against Islam. to say the least... build a mosque by paying interest?

is there any justification for it.

[IamDZJ]

They should have gathered the money first and built tie masjid(wat? I cant spell it in english) later. I dont like the way some people behave when it comes to maintaing the masjid. The fights and arguments... We have another political situation over who the imam should be.
As for the suud part, I have a visa card which I use guilt free. I dont know what that makes me but I m ok with it.

[abubaker]

there was fight in one of the Afghan masjids here in London over the language of khotba between pashtuns and farsiwans, never been there since


ps: if there's no way you can afford to build a huge masjid with halal means then its better to prepare a smaller place instead, rather then borrowing money on interest to pay for the building



Ruling on building a mosque or addition to a mosque with haraam wealth
Can a masjid or its extention for a community hall adjacent to masjid for mulity purpose where jumah salah in ramadan and eid prayer are planned, be built with donations which are not halal,ins-pite the fact that the masjid management have knowledge of it.

the following is not directly related to masjid built on riba but, haram wealth in general


Praise be to Allaah.
Haraam wealth is either haraam in and of itself, or it is haraam because of the manner in which it was acquired.

If the wealth is haraam in and of itself, such as extorted and stolen wealth, this it is not permissible for anyone of make use of it if he knows that it was stolen from so and so, rather it must be returned to its owner.

The way in which to repent from extorting this money is to return it to its owner. It is not sufficient for the robber to donate it for building a mosque when he is able to return it to its owner.

But if he is not able to return it to its owner (such as money that has been stolen by some oppressive governments from the people), then there is nothing wrong with spending it on the public interests of the Muslims, which includes building mosques.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Siyaasah al-Shar’iyyah (p. 35):

If the wealth was taken unlawfully and he is unable to return it to its owners, like much of the government wealth (which has been stolen by the ruler), then helping to spend this wealth in things that serve the interests of the Muslims, such as guarding the borders, covering the expenses of the troops and so on is a kind of helping in righteousness and piety, because what the ruler should do with this money – if he cannot find its owners and return it to them or to their heirs – is to spend it on the interests of the Muslims, as well as repenting if he is the one who did wrong. This is the view of the majority of scholars such as Maalik, Abu Haneefah, and Ahmad. It was also narrated from more than one of the Sahaabah and this is what is indicated by the shar’i evidence.

Even if someone else took it unlawfully, then he must still do that with it. End quote.

As for wealth that is haraam because of the way in which it was acquired, this is wealth which a person earned in a haraam way, such as selling alcohol and dealing in riba, or payments for singing and prostitution and so on. This wealth is haraam only for the one who acquired it. If someone else takes it from him in a permissible manner, there is no sin in that, such as if he were to donate it to build a mosque, or to give it as wages to a worker who did a job for him, or he spends it on his wife or children – it is not haraam for them to benefit from it, rather it is haraam only for the one who acquired it in a haraam manner.

The way to repent from acquiring haraam wealth is to get rid of it, and to spend it on charitable causes, which include building mosques.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Majmoo’ (9/330):

Al-Ghazaali said: If he has any haraam wealth and he wants to repent and get rid of it – if it has a particular owner then he must give it to him or to his representative. If he is dead then he must give it to his heir. If it belongs to someone who he does not know and he has no hope of finding him, then he should spend it on the public interests of the Muslims, such as bridges, border posts and mosques, and other things which the Muslims share. Otherwise he may give it in charity to poor people. This is what al-Ghazaali said and what others of our companions mentioned, and it is as they said, because it is not permissible to destroy this wealth or throw it into the sea. There is no other option but to spend it on the Muslims’ interests. And Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, knows best.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on praying in a mosque that was built with haraam money. He replied:

It is permissible to pray in it and there is no sin in that, because the one who built it from haraam wealth may have intended by building it to rid himself of the haraam wealth that he had acquired, in which case it was permissible for him to build this mosque, if his intention was to get rid of haraam wealth. But getting rid of haraam wealth is not only done by building mosques, rather if a person spends that on any charitable project, he has achieved the same aim. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 12/question no. 304. See also al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 4/344.

And Allaah knows best.

[Saifullah]

LOL
Masjids have instead of being religious places of worship, have turned into rascist centres...

[amna.]

Abubaker so which language did they end up chosing? FEROZA anything involving interest becomes Haram. Anything.

[abubaker]

Abubaker so which language did they end up chosing? FEROZA anything involving interest becomes Haram. Anything.

no idea, i refused to go there after that indecent, but i hope thy chose English since there were many Afghans there as well, and non of them understand either of the two languages