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  • #16
    My point was simply saying at the time the Muslims came to Iran, the Persians were a mess and degenerates ....so whatever motivation UnknownUser had for his Anti-Islam rant ...was bogus.

    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
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    • #17
      Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post
      Its funny how the case against Zoroastrianism is cuckoldry lmao. Like it is actually a zoroastrianism. Lol

      Muslim cucks exist too. Lol
      You're In Panic mode now Indo boy lol


      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
      don’t try to be smart.

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      • #18
        Nobody is talking about restoring Sassanids.

        But restoring Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism is 99% Islam. But no Allah Akbar. No Mahmoud is the prophet crap. Lmao

        And no need to credit a useless language like Arabic any value lmao.

        Islam is dying. Its expiration date is nearing. Zoroastrianism nearly died because Islamic terrorists. Not because it was the better choice lol. People dont just leave their faith/beliefs like that.

        I am a Zoroastrian at heart now btw. Its not because I am anti Islam or something lmao, but if Zoroastrianism is the same as Islam, why keep using Islam, when zoroastrianism is the same, but 1000s of years older, and has deeper and more advanced philosophy and is the source of our culture and identity, while Islam tries to destroy it. Lol

        Just by accepting Islam, Persian became 40% Arabic. Words we had, were replaced all because it was easier to speak Arabic due to praying and reading quran crap lol.

        A unification, purification of Persian language will happen soon. Cleansing of Islam will be following. Original Zoroastrianism philosophy reestablished.

        Persian civilization must be restored to its originality. No point in being in these useless small European created countries.
        Last edited by UnknownUser; 08-22-2018, 07:54 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post
          Nobody is talking about restoring Sassanids.

          But restoring Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism is 99% Islam. But no Allah Akbar. No Mahmoud is the prophet crap. Lmao

          And no need to credit a useless language like Arabic any value lmao.

          Islam is dying. Its expiration date is nearing, just like yiu say Zoroastrianism did during Sassanids.

          I am a Zoroastrian at heart now btw. Its not because I am anti Islam or something lmao, but if Zoroastrianism is the same as Islam, why keep using Islam, when zoroastrianism is the same, but 1000s of years older, and has deeper and more advanced philosophy and is the source of our culture and identity, while Islam tries to destroy it. Lol

          Just by accepting Islam, Persian became 40% Arabic. Words we had, were replaced all because it was easier to speak Arabic due to praying and reading quran crap lol.

          A unification, purification of Persian language will happen soon. Cleansing of Islam will be following. Original Zoroastrianism philosophy reestablished.

          Persian civilization must be restored to its originality. No point in being in these useless small European created countries.

          Zoroastrianism and Islam are very different.

          There will never be a restoration of Zoroastrianism because at least 2/3's of that religion is now lost. The names and list of contents of what was once the enitre Zoroastrian religious corpus still survive, but much of the actual bodies of work do not.

          What the bulk of Zoroastrianism is today is a very Anglo-Christrianized spin on Zoroastrianism due to the British colonial rule in India and their influence and relationship with the Parsis there. The remnants of Zoroastrians in Iran in turn have been somewhat influenced by those changes that occurred among their co-religionists. The mini Zoroastrian revival in Iraqi Kurdistan is Zoroastrian in name only but not in substance since it is nothing but a Kurdish nationalist attempt to invent a new identity for themselves and pretend that it is something ancient and exclusive to them.

          You are not Persian anyway you are a smelly paki ji and your roots are Dalit.

          Ugly dark pakis are so disgusting with your perverted fixation and lust for things 'Persian' and 'Iranian'.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
            My point was simply saying at the time the Muslims came to Iran, the Persians were a mess and degenerates ....so whatever motivation UnknownUser had for his Anti-Islam rant ...was bogus.

            I dont think this is accurate. If it's the existence of polyandry aming some communities then we can see from the pages i posted above that the practice was widespread in the Middle East and Asia and continued well into the Islamic era in parts of what are now central and eastern Afghanistan (at least). It is not something peculiar to Sassanid Persia, nor can it be said that it was even the norm there.

            The fact is that polyandry is something that has existed all over the World in some form at one time or another.

            However repulsive it is to us now, this is just history.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
              Zoroastrianism and Islam are very different.

              There will never be a restoration of Zoroastrianism because at least 2/3's of that religion is now lost. The names and list of contents of what was once the enitre Zoroastrian religious corpus still survive, but much of the actual bodies of work do not.

              What the bulk of Zoroastrianism is today is a very Anglo-Christrianized spin on Zoroastrianism due to the British colonial rule in India and their influence and relationship with the Parsis there. The remnants of Zoroastrians in Iran in turn have been somewhat influenced by those changes that occurred among their co-religionists. The mini Zoroastrian revival in Iraqi Kurdistan is Zoroastrian in name only but not in substance since it is nothing but a Kurdish nationalist attempt to invent a new identity for themselves and pretend that it is something ancient and exclusive to them.

              You are not Persian anyway you are a smelly paki ji and your roots are Dalit.

              Ugly dark pakis are so disgusting with your perverted fixation and lust for things 'Persian' and 'Iranian'.
              During my ethno-nationalist transition I considered a "mild conversion" to Zoroastrism. I made a lot of research about this faith and I still find it fascinating. But I reached some conclusions and I realized that conversion was not worth it for several reasons:

              1) Zoroastrianism has been heavily manipulated and distorted by the Magi caste. The Zoroastrianism practiced during Shapurs rule had little to do with the one practiced by Zardusht if he really existed. We still do not know if its prophet was real or not.

              2) As you pointed out Zoroastrianism was quite diverse. I read once that the only practiced in eastern provinces was way less rigid than the one practiced by Western Iranians.

              3) Zoroastrianism lacks of a proper morality. The good deeds and words sounds good, but you need some more good guidance. What if someone considers butchering children is a good thing? Technically it would be ok. Even the Zoroastrian "sins" make little sense. One of the greatest sins in this faith is "stealing cows" (it was one of the main reasons behind Spitamenes´s rebellion against Alexander).

              4) Zoroastrianism is a regionally confined truth. Its universalist nature is limited and use to revolve around Iranian tribes. Even now that the faith is about to die, Parsis in India do not allow other people to join their faith even if they are Iranians!! There was this Iranian expert, I cant remember his name, who spent decades researching about Zoroastrianism. He was like the leading expert on that faith and when he decided to convert.. they did not allow him to do so.

              5) Zoroastrianism lacks of a proper legal code or law. All major faiths have developed one over centuries. It also lacks of a proper philosophy. Islam has a rich philosophy that helps believers to deal with their daily problems.

              6) I found some of the Zoroastrian "values" were quite immoral imo. Zoroastrians encouraged sibling marries ("xwedoda"). I found that disgusting.

              7) Zoroastrianism encourages a rigid and hierarchical society. While Islam´s values are way more flexible and egalitarian.

              8) In general Islam is a powerful faith. No other faith can match its power. For some reason it breeds alpha males. Thats why most of true practicing Muslims seem to be way more active and stronger than other faiths/ideologies.
              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

              -Ferdowsi.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                My point was simply saying at the time the Muslims came to Iran, the Persians were a mess and degenerates ....so whatever motivation UnknownUser had for his Anti-Islam rant ...was bogus.
                Zoroastrians were pretty much f*cked up when Arabs showed up. They had lost a major war against Romans, their king was dead, their army destroyed, their noblemen fighting like dogs and rebellions were taking place everywhere.

                But this does not mean Islam was welcome as people use to say. It might be true that many people were happy about Zoraostrians/Sassanias being destroyed but many others did not like it. And for us, eastern Iranic people, the Arab invasion was a disaster. Our ancestors fought Arabs for decades until Qutayba finally consolidated it. Eastern Iranians just refused to accept Arab rule.

                Even after this, Khorasan remained highly unstable with rebellions happening quite often. The Ummayads were destroyed by our ancestors and brought the Abbassids to power. And so over and over again until Mongols just destroyed everything.

                So we should not idealize the Islamic conquer because for most of our ancestors it was a calamity.
                "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                -Ferdowsi.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                  Zoroastrians were pretty much f*cked up when Arabs showed up. They had lost a major war against Romans, their king was dead, their army destroyed, their noblemen fighting like dogs and rebellions were taking place everywhere.

                  But this does not mean Islam was welcome as people use to say. It might be true that many people were happy about Zoraostrians/Sassanias being destroyed but many others did not like it. And for us, eastern Iranic people, the Arab invasion was a disaster. Our ancestors fought Arabs for decades until Qutayba finally consolidated it. Eastern Iranians just refused to accept Arab rule.

                  Even after this, Khorasan remained highly unstable with rebellions happening quite often. The Ummayads were destroyed by our ancestors and brought the Abbassids to power. And so over and over again until Mongols just destroyed everything.

                  So we should not idealize the Islamic conquer because for most of our ancestors it was a calamity.

                  Yeah that's my point, the Persians were already lost and fragmented by the time Muslims. Islam's arrival was ;probably for the best, I'm not saying Islam was instantly embraced vt everyone. but definitely cultivated a better, more enriched society than the one it encountered when it was first introduced to the region.

                  Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                  Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                  don’t try to be smart.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post

                    Islam is dying. Its expiration date is nearing. Zoroastrianism nearly died because Islamic terrorists. Not because it was the better choice lol. People dont just leave their faith/beliefs like that.

                    I am a Zoroastrian at heart now btw. Its not because I am anti Islam or something lmao, but if Zoroastrianism is the same as Islam, why keep using Islam, when zoroastrianism is the same, but 1000s of years older, and has deeper and more advanced philosophy and is the source of our culture and identity, while Islam tries to destroy it. Lol

                    Just by accepting Islam, Persian became 40% Arabic. Words we had, were replaced all because it was easier to speak Arabic due to praying and reading quran crap lol.

                    A unification, purification of Persian language will happen soon. Cleansing of Islam will be following. Original Zoroastrianism philosophy reestablished.

                    Persian civilization must be restored to its originality. No point in being in these useless small European created countries.
                    Zoroastrianism was already dead long before Islam came to the region, by the time Muslims came, Persians were cucks and screwing their sisters and daughters because the Sassanids basically erased most of the original Zoroastrian teachings. THe Zoroastrianism you think Muslims destroyed and you're trying to restore is all in your head. The reason you're trying to rewrite history into something else is because you have an inferiority complex with Arabs because in the Middle East they make Indicss shine their shoes.

                    Islam is the closest thing to real Zoroastrianism there is, so may as well be Muslim.

                    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                    don’t try to be smart.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                      Zoroastrianism and Islam are very different.

                      There will never be a restoration of Zoroastrianism because at least 2/3's of that religion is now lost. The names and list of contents of what was once the enitre Zoroastrian religious corpus still survive, but much of the actual bodies of work do not.

                      What the bulk of Zoroastrianism is today is a very Anglo-Christrianized spin on Zoroastrianism due to the British colonial rule in India and their influence and relationship with the Parsis there. The remnants of Zoroastrians in Iran in turn have been somewhat influenced by those changes that occurred among their co-religionists. The mini Zoroastrian revival in Iraqi Kurdistan is Zoroastrian in name only but not in substance since it is nothing but a Kurdish nationalist attempt to invent a new identity for themselves and pretend that it is something ancient and exclusive to them.

                      You are not Persian anyway you are a smelly paki ji and your roots are Dalit.

                      Ugly dark pakis are so disgusting with your perverted fixation and lust for things 'Persian' and 'Iranian'.
                      Indic-ji

                      I will bring my dalit friends and drown your ass in daal. You watch your back when you leave your house tommorow.

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                      • #26
                        Unknown Animal-Abuser is broken, I broke him lol

                        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                        don’t try to be smart.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                          Unknown Animal-Abuser is broken, I broke him lol
                          How do you know that I am broken lol?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                            Zoroastrianism was already dead long before Islam came to the region, by the time Muslims came, Persians were cucks and screwing their sisters and daughters because the Sassanids basically erased most of the original Zoroastrian teachings. THe Zoroastrianism you think Muslims destroyed and you're trying to restore is all in your head. The reason you're trying to rewrite history into something else is because you have an inferiority complex with Arabs because in the Middle East they make Indicss shine their shoes.

                            Islam is the closest thing to real Zoroastrianism there is, so may as well be Muslim.
                            India is superpower. You know well Arabs are inferior to us Indians. Arabs dont have a civilization. They just absorved everyone else. Even Islam is just copy paste of Christianity/Judaism, who were copy pastes of Zoroastrianism.

                            Arabs are to me like lottery winners. Lucky, but unworthy of respect. You can never feel inferior to lottery winners, cuz their luck and fortune dry out eventually, then they will go back to being the ground wandering idiots they were created to be.

                            Zoroastrianism is better, cuz why use a fake/copy when you can use the very original?

                            It makes zero sense. Persians dont need Arabs, never did, and most likely never will. Let these allah akbar yalla yalla yelling noble savages figure it out on their own. Persian must look into the universe.
                            Last edited by UnknownUser; 08-23-2018, 08:47 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post

                              Zoroastrianism is better, cuz why use a fake/copy when you can use the very original?
                              .
                              Refer back to my previous post.

                              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                              don’t try to be smart.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post
                                How do you know that I am broken lol?
                                Refer to the post above.

                                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                                don’t try to be smart.

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