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    Which sect of Islam is correct?

    Sufis = Grave worshippers/backwards/poor/lazy

    Wahabi/Salafis : violent/fat/rich/corrupt/lazy

    Shias: mutah marriage/violent/annoying

    Who else?

  • #2
    Which religion would you rather we all follow??

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    • #3
      The same one sect that is found in Judaism and Christianity. Mumin, believer.

      It is narrated on the authority of Yahya b. Ya'mur that the first man who discussed qadr (Divine Decree) in Basra was Ma'bad al-Juhani. I along with Humaid b. 'Abdur-Rahman Himyari set out for pilgrimage or for 'Umrah and said:
      Should it so happen that we come into contact with one of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) we shall ask him about what is talked about taqdir (Divine Decree). Accidentally we came across Abdullah ibn Umar ibn al-Khattab, while he was entering the mosque. My companion and I surrounded him. One of us (stood) on his right and the other stood on his left. I expected that my companion would authorize me to speak. I therefore said: Abu Abdur Rahman! There have appeared some people in our land who recite the Qur'an and pursue knowledge. And then after talking about their affairs, added: They (such people) claim that there is no such thing as Divine Decree and events are not predestined. He (Abdullah ibn Umar) said: When you happen to meet such people tell them that I have nothing to do with them and they have nothing to do with me. And verily they are in no way responsible for my (belief). Abdullah ibn Umar swore by Him (the Lord) (and said): If any one of them (who does not believe in the Divine Decree) had with him gold equal to the bulk of (the mountain) Uhud and spent it (in the way of Allah), Allah would not accept it unless he affirmed his faith in Divine Decree. He further said: My father, Umar ibn al-Khattab, told me: One day we were sitting in the company of Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) when there appeared before us a man dressed in pure white clothes, his hair extraordinarily black. There were no signs of travel on him. None amongst us recognized him. At last he sat with the Apostle (peace be upon him) He knelt before him placed his palms on his thighs and said: Muhammad, inform me about al-Islam. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Al-Islam implies that you testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and you establish prayer, pay Zakat, observe the fast of Ramadan, and perform pilgrimage to the (House) if you are solvent enough (to bear the expense of) the journey. He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth. He (Umar ibn al-Khattab) said: It amazed us that he would put the question and then he would himself verify the truth. He (the inquirer) said: Inform me about Iman (faith). He (the Holy Prophet) replied: That you affirm your faith in Allah, in His angels, in His Books, in His Apostles, in the Day of Judgment, and you affirm your faith in the Divine Decree about good and evil. He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth. He (the inquirer) again said: Inform me about al-Ihsan (performance of good deeds). He (the Holy Prophet) said: That you worship Allah as if you are seeing Him, for though you don't see Him, He, verily, sees you. He (the enquirer) again said: Inform me about the hour (of the Doom). He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: One who is asked knows no more than the one who is inquiring (about it). He (the inquirer) said: Tell me some of its indications. He (the Holy Prophet) said: That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and master, that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings. He (the narrator, Umar ibn al-Khattab) said: Then he (the inquirer) went on his way but I stayed with him (the Holy Prophet) for a long while. He then, said to me: Umar, do you know who this inquirer was? I replied: Allah and His Apostle knows best. He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: He was Gabriel (the angel). He came to you in order to instruct you in matters of religion.

      Muslim Book 1, Hadith 1
      Last edited by کیش; 06-04-2017, 11:21 PM.

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      • #4
        There are more sects and sub sects than you think.
        Its pretty obvious that many people would think that their sect is the correct one.Some others would probably be more accepting of the other groups.But there is no way you can get a completely unbiased answer here.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          Which sect of Islam is correct?

          Sufis = Grave worshippers/backwards/poor/lazy

          Wahabi/Salafis : violent/fat/rich/corrupt/lazy

          Shias: mutah marriage/violent/annoying

          Who else?
          Any sect that doesn't include people like you.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
            Any sect that doesn't include people like you.

            I am not part of any sect, will never be. Spirituality/belief should always be on individual basis, doesn't matter what it is, because your own beliefs get corrupted if they are influence by someone else

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            • #7
              Originally posted by کیش View Post
              The same one sect that is found in Judaism and Christianity. Mumin, believer.

              It is narrated on the authority of Yahya b. Ya'mur that the first man who discussed qadr (Divine Decree) in Basra was Ma'bad al-Juhani. I along with Humaid b. 'Abdur-Rahman Himyari set out for pilgrimage or for 'Umrah and said:
              Should it so happen that we come into contact with one of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) we shall ask him about what is talked about taqdir (Divine Decree). Accidentally we came across Abdullah ibn Umar ibn al-Khattab, while he was entering the mosque. My companion and I surrounded him. One of us (stood) on his right and the other stood on his left. I expected that my companion would authorize me to speak. I therefore said: Abu Abdur Rahman! There have appeared some people in our land who recite the Qur'an and pursue knowledge. And then after talking about their affairs, added: They (such people) claim that there is no such thing as Divine Decree and events are not predestined. He (Abdullah ibn Umar) said: When you happen to meet such people tell them that I have nothing to do with them and they have nothing to do with me. And verily they are in no way responsible for my (belief). Abdullah ibn Umar swore by Him (the Lord) (and said): If any one of them (who does not believe in the Divine Decree) had with him gold equal to the bulk of (the mountain) Uhud and spent it (in the way of Allah), Allah would not accept it unless he affirmed his faith in Divine Decree. He further said: My father, Umar ibn al-Khattab, told me: One day we were sitting in the company of Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) when there appeared before us a man dressed in pure white clothes, his hair extraordinarily black. There were no signs of travel on him. None amongst us recognized him. At last he sat with the Apostle (peace be upon him) He knelt before him placed his palms on his thighs and said: Muhammad, inform me about al-Islam. The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Al-Islam implies that you testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and you establish prayer, pay Zakat, observe the fast of Ramadan, and perform pilgrimage to the (House) if you are solvent enough (to bear the expense of) the journey. He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth. He (Umar ibn al-Khattab) said: It amazed us that he would put the question and then he would himself verify the truth. He (the inquirer) said: Inform me about Iman (faith). He (the Holy Prophet) replied: That you affirm your faith in Allah, in His angels, in His Books, in His Apostles, in the Day of Judgment, and you affirm your faith in the Divine Decree about good and evil. He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth. He (the inquirer) again said: Inform me about al-Ihsan (performance of good deeds). He (the Holy Prophet) said: That you worship Allah as if you are seeing Him, for though you don't see Him, He, verily, sees you. He (the enquirer) again said: Inform me about the hour (of the Doom). He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: One who is asked knows no more than the one who is inquiring (about it). He (the inquirer) said: Tell me some of its indications. He (the Holy Prophet) said: That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and master, that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings. He (the narrator, Umar ibn al-Khattab) said: Then he (the inquirer) went on his way but I stayed with him (the Holy Prophet) for a long while. He then, said to me: Umar, do you know who this inquirer was? I replied: Allah and His Apostle knows best. He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: He was Gabriel (the angel). He came to you in order to instruct you in matters of religion.

              Muslim Book 1, Hadith 1
              This is very vague, every sect in Islam would claim to be a mumin

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              • #8
                Basically you're just regurgitating stereotypes

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                  I am not part of any sect, will never be. Spirituality/belief should always be on individual basis, doesn't matter what it is, because your own beliefs get corrupted if they are influence by someone else
                  You are not even a Muslim, you do not believe Quran is the word of God. Simple
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                  *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                  Originally posted by Karachi
                  like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                  • #10
                    The worst sect is Sunnism. Then within Sunnism, Wahhabism of course. None are correct, but Nizari Ismaili Shias are the best since they don't fast or pray and completely ignore the Qur'an and Ahadtih.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sarbani View Post
                      The worst sect is Sunnism. Then within Sunnism, Wahhabism of course. None are correct, but Nizari Ismaili Shias are the best since they don't fast or pray and completely ignore the Qur'an and Ahadtih.
                      LOL Does he even logic? [MENTION=19435]Iblis_Efreetzai[/MENTION]
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                      *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                      Originally posted by Karachi
                      like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                      • #12
                        Sunni Wahabi is true sect of Islam to me, because they follow Islam more zealously.
                        शूरबाहूषु लोकोऽयं लम्बते पुत्रवत् सदा ।
                        तस्मात् सर्वास्ववस्थासु शूरः सम्मानमर्हित।।
                        न िह शौर्यात् परं िकंचित् ित्रलोकेषु िवधते।
                        शूरः सर्वं पालयित सर्वं शूरे परितिष्ठ्तम ।।

                        Arms of the brave(kshatriya) always support and sustain the people like (a father his) son.
                        A brave(kshatriya) is, for this reason, honoured by all, in all situations.
                        [B][COLOR="Red"]There is nothing in all the three worlds, which is beyond (the reach of) bravery.[/COLOR][/B]
                        Brave/kshatriya sustains all, and all depend upon the brave.

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                        • #13
                          I Dont know why non-Muslims/mentally colonized South Asians like Karachi coming to this forum talking **** about Islam.

                          IT seems these idiots are more obsessed with Islam than their own belief systems.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saleh View Post
                            I Dont know why non-Muslims/mentally colonized South Asians like Karachi coming to this forum talking **** about Islam.

                            IT seems these idiots are more obsessed with Islam than their own belief systems.
                            How else would they make their colonial masters happy? They have to prove themselves to the colonizers by spitting on their own heritage.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                              LOL Does he even logic? [MENTION=19435]Iblis_Efreetzai[/MENTION]
                              well he has in the past expressed animosity towards Islam so according to his interests, it follows


                              But he's wrong, the Nizaris were Esoterists, they definitely didn't ignore the Qur'an.

                              Ironically, Nizaris were the Wahhabis of their day, they were known for political murders and terrorist acts.

                              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                              don’t try to be smart.

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