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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
    The Twelver sect ascribes superhuman attributes to the imams. They believe that the imams have knowledge of the unseen. They also believe that Ali is al Qaasim. By that they mean Ali divides between the people of hell and people of paradise.

    Ascribing divine attributes to anyone other than Allah is considered shirk/kufr by Sunnis. Anyone who believes people are godlike cannot be monotheist. Therefore Twelvers are polytheists and they are not Muslims.

    Only reason why many people still treat them as Muslims is because of the political correctness. But PC doesn't change the fact that Twelvers commit shirk.
    Can you provide references from orthodox mainstream Twelver scholars who say Ali ra is Al Qaasim?

    From my understanding, Shias don't ascribe divine attributes to anyone except Allah swt. What they say is that some people chosen by God are given the gift of performing miracles by the will of Allah swt. Look at this example of miracle given to Issah as

    "I create for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with God’s permission." (Quran 3:49)

    So Issah as could give life to a bird made from clay. Are we ascribing the divine attribute of Creator to Issah as?

    Issah as brings dead to life
    "…and I bring to life the dead, by the permission of God." (Quran 3:49)

    Does it make Issah as the creator of life? Does it make us mushriks to believe in these attributes or karamats given to Issah as. What kind of logic is that?
    Ofcourse as muslims we all believe that God is the one who is behind eveything and nothing can be done except by his permission. I guess people shouldn't go to a doctor because the doctor might cure them and it will be considered Shirk because only Allah swt can cure?

    Ahlul Sunna scholars agree that karamat (miracles) are given to even Awliya (friends of God) so why is it so strange if Ahlul Bayt were given karamat with the will of God?
    Last edited by Shapur; 12-17-2016, 10:31 AM.

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    • #17
      Please enough of this sectarian nonsense; it muddies up the bigger picture of what's happening in the Muslim world. This is not about Shi'i or Sunni, it is about the just over the tyrant; no matter what they ascribe to believe.

      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
      don’t try to be smart.

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