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    ONCE it was a Taliban stronghold where women were deprived of their basic rights and education for girls was banned.
    Now in towns and cities across Afghanistan, women go can outside without being escorted by their husbands or fathers, they can work, and girls can attend school and even university.
    But there is a growing fear among women’s rights groups that these freedoms are under threat by a new wave of privately run religious schools being opened across the country.
    Women in Afghanistan have achieved significant human rights gains since the fall of the Taliban.
    Women in Afghanistan have achieved significant human rights gains since the fall of the Taliban.Source:News Limited
    Kunduz in northern Afghanistan is the country’s fifth largest city and home to one of the most controversial schools: Ashraf-ul Madares.
    6000 girls attend the madrasa soley to study the Koran. They are taught by male teachers, who they are forbidden from meeting face-to-face and full hijab must be worn.
    In The Girls of the Taliban, film makers gain unprecedented access inside this madrasa, to meet with the girls and their families and question the men behind it.



    watch the video here



  • #2
    i watched a documentary where this "principal" who is in his mid 50s, gathers women (who are covered from head to toe in black with their eyes only showing) behind the curtain and lectures them on religion and their obligations to their husbands for a couple of hours every day. everything is bearable until he mentions how he mentions that his students are so qualified that he chose for his second wife to be one of his own former 15 year old student.
    actually, here is that documentary.



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    • #3
      These people seem extremely conservative.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        they are being taught that sharia prohibits women from becoming ministers, taking charge of the state or working in an office. that a woman's place in islam is being inferior to her husband.
        not a single female teacher around.. a woman is not even good enough for them to be teaching this bull**** to the rest of these women. furthermore, if your family members are not walking around in shrouds in the privacy of their own homes, feel free to threaten to bomb them for not being religious enough. that is your God given right.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
          they are being taught that sharia prohibits women from becoming ministers, taking charge of the state or working in an office. that a woman's place in islam is being inferior to her husband.
          not a single female teacher around.. a woman is not even good enough for them to be teaching this bull**** to the rest of these women. furthermore, if your family members are not walking around in shrouds in the privacy of their own homes, feel free to threaten to bomb them for not being religious enough. that is your God given right.
          The woman who said that the boy threatened to do entehari on her mom is obviously lying because she is a govt employee.

          this is the problem with kuffar. They can't criticize Muslims who are extreme by merely stating facts. They have to invent lies.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
            The woman who said that the boy threatened to do entehari on her mom is obviously lying because she is a govt employee.

            this is the problem with kuffar. They can't criticize Muslims who are extreme by merely stating facts. They have to invent lies.
            he said that because he was taught by an institute that does not allow men to interact with women. an institute that says it's wrong to acquire any sort of knowledge that would benefit you in worldly matters.

            if you are defending that, you have to be in agreement with them that indeed, sharia does tell women that they are inferior to men. that studying sciences or mathematics is the works of evil and that interacting with women is strictly prohibited.
            i would like to know what it is that you do for a living. whether it required acquiring worldly knowledge or not. how deprived of scientific or mathematical skills you are and if you interact with women at all. i doubt that you live by any of those rules. therefore, you are a hypocrite. i don't need a hypocrite correcting me.

            that woman who enrolled him in that madrasa was his mother. if she worked for the government, it was to feed him. she had hoped for him to learn something useful, not come back with the sort of education that gave him the right to threaten to kill his own mother.

            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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            • #7
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              he said that because he was taught by an institute that does not allow men to interact with women. an institute that says it's wrong to acquire any sort of knowledge that would benefit you in worldly matters.

              if you are defending that, you have to be in agreement with them that indeed, sharia does tell women that they are inferior to men. that studying sciences or mathematics is the works of evil and that interacting with women is strictly prohibited.
              i would like to know what it is that you do for a living. whether it required acquiring worldly knowledge or not. how deprived of scientific or mathematical skills you are and if you interact with women at all. i doubt that you live by any of those rules. therefore, you are a hypocrite. i don't need a hypocrite correcting me.

              that woman who enrolled him in that madrasa was his mother. if she worked for the government, it was to feed him. she had hoped for him to learn something useful, not come back with the sort of education that gave him the right to threaten to kill his own mother.
              The video shows girls saying that having a job outside the house is impermissible. From that you infer that the boy must have said the same thing to his mom and threatened to kill her.

              You are making an inference and you have no evidence. It is merely hearsay by a woman who works for the Kabul government which is against Islamic education.


              The govt employee is obviously lying. Her lie is proven by the following segment of the documentary: https://youtu.be/vHWuj0SWs84?t=9m43s

              Here, the teacher explicitly mentions who can kill in Islam (Islamic govt) and who is killed ( apostate, murderer and adulterer).

              The segment shows what is taught about killing.

              So if the school limits killing to only those three cases, how did the boy learn that he should do "enterhari" on his mom?

              Enterhari is a word used by kaafirs to describe martyrdom operation. No Muslim or proponent of martyrdom operation would ever use the word Entehari.

              So this is another evidence against the lying woman.


              I wont respond to the rest of your usual drivel because it is so stupid I cant think of anything sensible to say in response.
              Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 10-19-2015, 01:11 PM.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                Women are not inferior. Some women who deliberately choose to be inferior by acting like a fool, choose to be inferior.
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #9
                  you mean to say that no madrasa student is ever capable of hurting another human being or threatening to detonating a bomb with the intention of hurting someone?? because youtube is full of videos from madrasas that teach it's students getting trained on nothing else but that.


                  So if the school limits killing to only those three cases, how did the boy learn that he should do "enterhari" on his mom?


                  the part where he said it was the religious obligation of an individual to disobey his or her parents if they are being told to walk on a path that is not that of the islamic teachings. by islamic teachings, he is naturally referring to his own teachings. the child connected the dots after daily witnessing 2 dozen examples of *******s who tend to refer to themselves as "taliban" also known as disciples of islam, express themselves and justify their actions by doing "entehari" on people.

                  "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    you mean to say that no madrasa student is ever capable of hurting another human being or threatening to detonating a bomb with the intention of hurting someone?? because youtube is full of videos from madrasas that teach it's students getting trained on nothing else but that.




                    the part where he said it was the religious obligation of an individual to disobey his or her parents if they are being told to walk on a path that is not that of the islamic teachings. by islamic teachings, he is naturally referring to his own teachings. the child connected the dots after daily witnessing 2 dozen examples of *******s who tend to refer to themselves as "taliban" also known as disciples of islam, express themselves and justify their actions by doing "entehari" on people.

                    You are unable to wrestle with words in order to justify the falsehood you posted earlier and now you are making more spurious claims. Give it a rest, aunty. Go do some knitting or cook a meal for your children.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                      Women are not inferior. Some women who deliberately choose to be inferior by acting like a fool, choose to be inferior.

                      yeah and it's no different than what applies to a man either. but that's not what his teachings say. his teachings say women are inferior, period. omitting that little part of the truth makes an entire other thing out of a statement. i can only imagine what other incomplete **** he is teaching his students.

                      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        yeah and it's no different than what applies to a man either. but that's not what his teachings say. his teachings say women are inferior, period. omitting that little part of the truth makes an entire other thing out of a statement. i can only imagine what other incomplete **** he is teaching his students.
                        You are quoting me, genius. Thats what I said. Its not what the Mullah in documentary is saying.

                        Thats another problem of Kaafirs. Inability to make distinction between different people.

                        Continue using your imagination. Reality is obviously too complex for you.
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                          You are unable to wrestle with words in order to justify the falsehood you posted earlier and now you are making more spurious claims. Give it a rest, aunty. Go do some knitting or cook a meal for your children.
                          this is your logical argument?? i should go and make use of myself in the kitchen?? wow, you totally proved me wrong. who needs to kick you in the ass, you are kicking yourself in the ass.



                          "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            You are quoting me, genius. Thats what I said. Its not what the Mullah in documentary is saying.

                            Thats another problem of Kaafirs. Inability to make distinction between different people.

                            Continue using your imagination. Reality is obviously too complex for you.
                            i quoted you to make a comparison between what you said and what the mullah that you are supporting in the video said. it's two different things. if you can not see that, what the **** else are you unable to differentiate between.

                            sometimes i wonder how long it took your mothers to toilet train you geniuses.

                            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                              this is your logical argument?? i should go and make use of myself in the kitchen?? wow, you totally proved me wrong. who needs to kick you in the ass, you are kicking yourself in the ass.


                              You post a link to a video and fail to absorb information from the same video and try to make all sorts of inferences and spurious claims.

                              You are obviously unable to have an intelligent conversation. This is why you should invest in less complicated activities like knitting and preparing lunch.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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