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Al-Amin, was a Caliph (809-813) who led the whole Muslim World despite being openly gay . He organized his boys pages in two groups, one of black boys whom he called "The Ravens", and a group of white ones whom he called "The Grasshoppers". Amongst them, he had a favorite, Kauthar, whom he's fallen in love and had named after a river in paradise. Al-Amin composed many poems about Kauthar, including one in which he said that “Kauthar is my life and afterlife, my ailment and my medicine,”
Image: Farewells of Abu-Zayd and Al-Harith, from 'Al Maqamat' (The Meetings) by Al-Hariri, Baghdad (13th century) #IslamicGayRomance
Abu Nawas (756-814): was a renowned Homoertic Poet who lived in Baghdad (Iraq) during the Islamic Golden Age. He was openly gay and his poems are full of homoerotic references to his lovers, the caliphs, and the men he desired during his lifetime. While his works were freely in circulation until the early years of the twentieth century, the first modern censored edition of his works appeared in Egypt in 1932. #IslamicGayRomance
1021: Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni falls in love with Malik Ayaz, a Turkish slave, and awards him the throne of Lahore (Pakistan). Their relationship became widely regarded as the epitome of idealized love in Islamic legend and Sufi literature. As the story goes, Ayaz asked Sultan Mahmud who the most powerful man in the kingdom was. When the Sultan replied that it was himself, Ayaz corrected him, claiming that in fact Ayaz was the most powerful, since Mahmud was his Sexual Slave. the “slave to a slave” became a favorite trope in Persian literature.#IslamicGayRomance
Title: A king looking at a picture of his son and his tutor, who fell in love with him
Form: Illustration
Text: Heft-ḫvān
Title: A juriconsult giving sexual advice
Form: Illustration
Text: Nefḥat ül-ezhār
Label: This illustration depicts a mufti, having heard a complaint from a mother about her son-in-law’s inability to consummate his marriage to her daughter, giving sexual advice.
Mecca, 630: The Prophet defended Hit, a man accused of Homosexuality by the Arab tribes, and allowed him to enter both men’s space and women’s space, saying that he fits the Qur'an's description of "men who are not in need of women."—Muhammad even trusted the Gay man enough to let him enter the private space of his wife .
In 1976: Based on this story, Bahrain enacted a new Penal Code legalizing same-sex relations, with the minimum age of consent at 21 years, repealing the British Penal Code of the Persian Gulf that was imposed by the United Kingdom.
#IslamGayRomance
Konya (Turkey) 1244: Rumi (Persian poet and Sufi mystic) meets Shams al-Din (Persian merchant) in a market. It’s said, that once their eyes met, the two men rarely separated. Rumi and Shams would sometimes disappear into a room for months at a time, which led to jealousy among Rumi’s students and made them exile Shams at least twice. But, each time Rumi would be so heartbroken that they would allow the return of Shams to Konya. According to Rahal Eks, the love of these two men “was the ultimate love. Their love really cooked Rumi and turned him into the Sufi poet and master that he is known for now.”
Man-O-To (You and Me) - Poem by Rumi (1207-1273) inspired by his love for Shams, from Diwan-e-Shams, collection of lyric poems that contains more than 40,000 verses, written by Rumi in honour of Shams Tabrizi.
Lyrics:
"Sitting here, You and I"
Sitting here, you and I, the courtyard breeze is cool
Two images, two forms, one thought, you and I
The orchard-shades, the songs of birds give up the world’s secrets
When we find ourselves here in this garden
The stars of distant galaxies come to gaze on us
You and I, together, we show them the moon
You and I, without ‘you’ and ‘I’, we are absolute joy
Happy, free from empty words, such are you and I
All those birds of paradise, full of childish envy
While in that same place, you and I, we cannot help but laugh
What’s truly strange is you and I, here together, now
At once here in the west and at once here in the east
such we always were
You and I"
خنك آن دم كه نشستيم در ايوان من و تو به دو نقش و به دو صورت به يكى جان من و تو رنگ باغ و دم مرغان بدهد آب حيات آن زمانى كه در آييم به بستان من و تو اختران فلک آیند به نظاره ما مه خودرا بنماييم به ايشان من ه تو من و تو بى من و تو جمع شويم از سر ذوق خوش و فارغ ز خرافات پريشان من و تو طوطيان فلكى جمله جگرخوار شوند در مقامى كه بخنديم بر آن سان من و تو اين عجبتر كه من و تو به يكى كنج اين جا هم در اين دم به عراقيم و خراسان من و تو
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
poetry is meant to be vague and secretive. it loses that charm when it's translated from the original language in which it was written. it becomes naked and ugly.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
The good thing about that post was that it helps to put a rest to the myth of the "glorious 1400 years of Islamic history and rule & Caliphate until 1924" as per extremist and Arab nationalist (supposedly "Islamic") like Hizbut Tahrir.
Taqiuddin Nabhani, founder of Hizbut Tahrir, a radical extremist group which promotes the falsification of history and the myth of 1400 years of endless Muslim glory and stability until 1924 when dictator Mustafa Kemal abolished the Caliphate in Istanbul.
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Shukran ya Masr!!!
Thanks to Egypt for supporting Bangladesh against Pakistani harassment and support for terrorists and war criminals!!
Konya (Turkey) 1244: Rumi (Persian poet and Sufi mystic) meets Shams al-Din (Persian merchant) in a market. It’s said, that once their eyes met, the two men rarely separated. Rumi and Shams would sometimes disappear into a room for months at a time, which led to jealousy among Rumi’s students and made them exile Shams at least twice. But, each time Rumi would be so heartbroken that they would allow the return of Shams to Konya. According to Rahal Eks, the love of these two men “was the ultimate love. Their love really cooked Rumi and turned him into the Sufi poet and master that he is known for now.”
Man-O-To (You and Me) - Poem by Rumi (1207-1273) inspired by his love for Shams, from Diwan-e-Shams, collection of lyric poems that contains more than 40,000 verses, written by Rumi in honour of Shams Tabrizi.
Lyrics:
"Sitting here, You and I"
Sitting here, you and I, the courtyard breeze is cool
Two images, two forms, one thought, you and I
The orchard-shades, the songs of birds give up the world’s secrets
When we find ourselves here in this garden
The stars of distant galaxies come to gaze on us
You and I, together, we show them the moon
You and I, without ‘you’ and ‘I’, we are absolute joy
Happy, free from empty words, such are you and I
All those birds of paradise, full of childish envy
While in that same place, you and I, we cannot help but laugh
What’s truly strange is you and I, here together, now
At once here in the west and at once here in the east
such we always were
You and I"
lol, did you just accus Rumi and Shams of homosexuality?
Have you never heard of platonic love? Rumi loved Shams because Shams helped him find the truth and real meaning of being a muslim, just like the sahabas loved Muhammad (saw) and the way the deciples loved Jesus (ra).
Sufi poetry is like a mirror which shows your own face. Depending on the kind of person you are, you will extract that meaning from the poetry which will reflect you own state so it is quite open to different interpretations. This is done on purpose to attract a wide audience and keep everyone intrested. From Madonna to imams in the mosques recite the poems of Rumi, such is his appeal.
Rumi nd Shams were faggots. Thats why non muslims love sufis so much. Sufis are into gay stuff.
Originally posted by Firdousi
Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
This is all strategy to rescue Ben-Gay aka Bengal Cosby from his rather unflattering associations with gay porn and homosexual eroticism which he exhibited on this forum most of the quotations are misrendered and is skewed with the commentary/ narrative from some Gay Historical Revisionism website which Ben_Gay is trying to render as the some perverted retelling of History.
Remember this is what Bangladesh and Bengali culture produces, it's no wonder that Ben_Gay is now trying to Move to his next phase of using the tired False Accusation that Islam is a form of Arab Nationalism is disguise.
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