Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Poll: Indian Muslim women want end to verbal divorce.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Poll: Indian Muslim women want end to verbal divorce.

    Indian Muslim women want end to verbal divorce.

    Over 92 percent of women surveyed want total ban on practice allowing men to divorce by uttering word "talaq" thrice.

    New Delhi, India - An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in India want reforms in religious laws involving matters of divorce, alimony, polygamy and custody of children, according to a survey conducted by a rights group.

    Titled "Seeking Justice Within Family: A National Study on Muslim Women's Views on Reforms in Muslim Personal Law", the survey released recently by Bharatiya Muslim Mahila Andolan (BMMA) focuses on religious laws perceived as discriminatory against Muslim women.
    More than 92 percent of the 4,710 Muslim women surveyed, mostly from disadvantaged communities, wanted a total ban on verbal or unilateral divorce, while 91.7 percent did not want their husbands to marry another woman while already married.

    Men should have to go to court for divorce - currently, men can unilaterally divorce their wives just by saying the word talaq thrice, or even by SMS or through a letter."

    Bader Sayeed, former legislative assembly member

    India is one of the few countries that recognises verbal and triple talaq (divorce) - a practice under which a Muslim man can divorce his wife by simply uttering talaq thrice.

    Nearly 96 percent surveyed wanted their ex-husbands to pay for children's maintenance, according to the survey conducted between July and December 2013 across 10 Indian states.

    Questions asked in the survey were related to the custody of children, domestic violence and under-age marriage as well as the status of the darul qazas (Sharia Courts) controlled by religious leaders.

    Numbering around 140 million or slightly less than 14 percent of the total population of 1.3 billion, Muslims are India's largest religious minority group.

    They are governed by the Muslim Personal Law. The legislation is not codified, which means it is open to interpretation by local clergy.

    "Codification of Muslim personal law in India is a long-term struggle. The study is the first empirical and scientific articulation of what Muslim women have been aspiring for," Dr Noorjehan Safia Niaz, BMMA co-founder and co-writer of the study, told Al Jazeera.

    'Excluded educationally, economically and socially'

    Using the 2006 Rajinder Sachar Committee report - which studied the socio-economic status of Indian Muslims - the BMMA study notes: "Muslim women are excluded educationally, economically and socially owing to government neglect and suffer from near absence of any legal framework in matters of family and marriage.

    "Owing to the way Muslim personal law is practised and understood in India, it is mired in ambiguity, obfuscation and apathy," the report says.

    The study notes that even though Muslim women look to the state for codifying Muslim family law, "the state has taken more interest in codifying laws for other communities and neglected the needs of the Muslim women".

    Zakia Soman, also a co-founder of BMMA and co-writer of the study, says: "Christians and Parsis, which are minorities in India, have codified personal laws. Muslim countries such as Tunisia, Morocco, Syria, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Malaysia have also enacted codification. As a result, in Morocco, for instance polygamy and triple talaq are banned."

    Open for misinterpretation

    Muslim personal law in India
    The Shariat Application Act, 1937 states that Muslims will be governed by Islamic law but does not list the contents of Muslim personal law, and thus allows people to apply their own interpretation.
    Dissolution of the Muslim Marriage Act 1939, while granting women to seek the right to seek divorce through court, does not lay down a procedure or time-frame, neither compels men to approach the court to seek divorce.
    The Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986, was introduced and amended, following the landmark Shah Bano case related to alimony for a divorced woman with weak alimony provisions.
    In the realm of personal laws, Indian Muslims are governed by Islamic law (Sharia). The study documents the multiplicity of religious codes, which results in wide room for misinterpretation owing to the lack of codification.

    The Indian subcontinent has a wide diversity of Muslims, divided into Sunni and Shia with their sub sects, which have their own understanding and interpretation of Islamic law, especially concerning family matters.

    According to the study, the most prominent instance of multiple interpretations is triple talaq. Further, "women are denied their Quranic rights such as right to property and inheritance, right to divorce and right to matrimonial home in the name of Sharia".

    "The British government had codified Muslim personal law to a large extent through the 1937 Act. This law continues to apply after independence to Sunni and Shia Muslims, but gives enormous powers to Muslim males, especially with regard to divorce," Mumbai-based socio-political analyst AK Mukadam told Al Jazeera.

    "Even more than codification, amendments are needed to the law which currently discriminates between men and women with regard to marriage, divorce, alimony and inheritance."

    Codified personal law

    Advocate and former member of the legislative assembly of Tamil Nadu state, Bader Sayeed, believes that All India Personal Muslim Law Board - the top religious body that overseas Islamic law - has resisted reforms.

    "Even as we hope for codification to occur, we need to ensure that all divorces happen in a court of law, within the Quran's parameters. Men should have to go to court for divorce - currently, men can unilaterally divorce their wives just by saying the word talaq thrice, or even by SMS or through a letter. This causes grave injustice to women," Sayeed said.

    She has appealed in court asking that Qazis (religious clerics) should be prohibited from approving triple talaq on the grounds that they did not have the authority to do so.

    The ruling Bharatiya Janata Party led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, which came to power in 2014, had promised to draft a Uniform Civil Code (UCC) in its manifesto.

    The code is meant to introduce a common set of laws governing marriage, divorce, inheritance, adoption and maintenance for all citizens.

    "It is crucial that demand for codification of Muslim personal law should not be read as a demand for the UCC," Soman of BMMA told Al Jazeera.

    "Communal forces have appropriated the demand and current proponents of UCC refuse to clarify if, for instance, Hindu laws on marriage will be repealed. Muslim women are far from convinced that the UCC will improve matters."

  • #2
    So it's like having a girlfriend lol



    "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

    Comment


    • #3
      Yeah, legally expensive, long and messy divorces are the way to go.
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
        Yeah, legally expensive, long and messy divorces are the way to go.
        Only in USA, mr. America. The rest of the world have normal divorces where the woman are not exploited like in this Islamic one.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
          Yeah, legally expensive, long and messy divorces are the way to go.
          I do not know how BSS can thank such a blatantly irrational and ugly post!
          If divorces are messy then why women has to go for Khula and cannot divorce their husbands by 3 words as husbands do. In the barbaric Sharia, man can just utter few words or SMS and marriage is gone. While woman has to go for Khula through a court.

          In this 21st century, I cant digest to see this 1400 years old code called Sharia which is so cruel, barbaric and discriminatory especially against women. Is it human or humane that just few words can dismantle a life long partnership. Why there are no legal protection for women as we have in civilized world.

          Comment


          • #6
            What website is from, what's the source,
            ----------

            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

            Originally posted by Karachi
            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
              I do not know how BSS can thank such a blatantly irrational and ugly post!
              If divorces are messy then why women has to go for Khula and cannot divorce their husbands by 3 words as husbands do. In the barbaric Sharia, man can just utter few words or SMS and marriage is gone. While woman has to go for Khula through a court.

              In this 21st century, I cant digest to see this 1400 years old code called Sharia which is so cruel, barbaric and discriminatory especially against women. Is it human or humane that just few words can dismantle a life long partnership. Why there are no legal protection for women as we have in civilized world.
              This coming from a man that does not mind his children having casual sex partners as long as it's done safely. You can digest that though can't you.
              ----------

              *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

              Originally posted by Karachi
              like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                I do not know how BSS can thank such a blatantly irrational and ugly post!

                Simply put it's actually VERY rational. In Western society the Civil Law is very complicated and ends up costing a great deal for everyone involved. It takes up a great deal of time and it also stresses the legal system. It also allows for even those that are gainfully employed to garnish 50% of their spouses assets. Which is unnecessary in Western society

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                  I do not know how BSS can thank such a blatantly irrational and ugly post!
                  If divorces are messy then why women has to go for Khula and cannot divorce their husbands by 3 words as husbands do. In the barbaric Sharia, man can just utter few words or SMS and marriage is gone. While woman has to go for Khula through a court.

                  In this 21st century, I cant digest to see this 1400 years old code called Sharia which is so cruel, barbaric and discriminatory especially against women. Is it human or humane that just few words can dismantle a life long partnership. Why there are no legal protection for women as we have in civilized world.
                  Considering the amount of **** you digest, its expected that you are against Shariah on this point of contention and others.

                  Your brain is practically a waste disposal.
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                    What website is from, what's the source,
                    Its from Al jazeera here is the link

                    Over 92 percent of women surveyed want total ban on practice allowing men to divorce by uttering word "talaq" thrice.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                      Simply put it's actually VERY rational. In Western society the Civil Law is very complicated and ends up costing a great deal for everyone involved. It takes up a great deal of time and it also stresses the legal system. It also allows for even those that are gainfully employed to garnish 50% of their spouses assets. Which is unnecessary in Western society
                      Yes it is really rational becuase Islam is made up by your desert dwelling ancestors.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        o for heaven's sake, if verbal communication was at its best between a couple, there wouldn't be a need for the divorce. There is more time to consider one's decision when it's down on paper rather than when it's uttered in three words and heaven knows in what sort of a situation.

                        "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





                        Comment


                        • #13
                          The truth of an idea does not depend on where it comes from, but from the merit of evidence that supports it

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            If it is that easy to get out. What is the point of it?



                            "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                              The truth of an idea does not depend on where it comes from, but from the merit of evidence that supports it
                              The evidence show how unfair this verbal divorce is. That is the evidence that shows that Islam is a man made relligion like Judaism and Christianity.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X