Anti Islamic Thread : Atheist/Agnostic Pashtuns & Pakhtuns againts Islam

[Badlun]

No, I don't.
I agree there are mysteries about the Universe.
But I am not going to believe in some made up fantasy.
It's fine having your own hypotheses, but leave it at that.

Don't start telling & ordering others to follow this unproven "Truth".

Buddhism is Truth
Christianity is Truth
Zoroastrianism is Truth
Islam is Truth
They are all unproven.

We need spirituality to be happy. Science just deals with senses and verifiable facts by observation and experiment but we also have intuition,mysticism,revelations,reason,philosophy ,social sciences etc which are not proven like matter,nature in the scientific world.
We feel them by emotions not prove them.
And eclectic approach and pantheistic beliefs are good and this way we take goodness and happiness from all religions and thoughts.

[Damir9000]

We need spirituality to be happy. Science just deals with senses and verifiable facts by observation and experiment but we also have intuition,mysticism,revelations,reason,philosophy ,social sciences etc which are not proven like matter,nature in the scientific world.
We feel them by emotions not prove them.
And eclectic approach and pantheistic beliefs are good and this way we take goodness and happiness from all religions and thoughts.

Just don't try to sell Illusions as "Truth".

I guess religion is for the people who can't just Live.

[Badlun]

Just don't try to sell Illusions as "Truth".

I guess religion is for the people who can't Life.

What is truth for you? And is Truth the only thing we want in life?
If religion tells you dont kill why not we take it but if tells you kill others we must denounce it.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

While I am not an Atheist personally, This is actually NOT the Position of Atheism.

In fact this is more consistent with Greek Theology.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Brown Skinned Savage
This message is hidden because Brown Skinned Savage is on your ignore list.

Stop quoting me.

I don't come to this forum to talk to idiots like you. Stop your obsession with me.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

1. Nothing can not happen by itself or just happen.

Imagine there is blank white A4 paper.



No one would say that without any external intervention, a black square or dot appeared on the white paper just by itself.


2. Similar that is the universe and creation.

Even if someone rejects the existence of God, then they will have to end up attributing the divine feature of eternality to something else whether it being matter or anti-matter.

They will have to say that matter has always existed and has never had a beginning as it is eternal. This is a divine characterstic.


Anyway atheism often leads to depression and emotional problems, though extreme religious fundamentalism can lead to fanaticism. The best approach is a moderate acceptance of the reality of the creator and basing your life on that whilst respecting others.

This is a flawed argument because you're using causality in accord to our current Physical Laws for Macroscopic Objects.

What about Quantum Field Theory? Particles can pop in and out of existence without any apparent causal relationship. This is a phenomenon called Quantum Tunneling which has been observed and explains why the Sun still burns due to the fact that particles will probabilistically fuse and emit energy despite the fact they lack the energy to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LKjJT7gh9s

This is METAPHORICALLY tantamount to something appearing on a sheet of paper out of nowhere. Without a direct agent touching it.

In Cosmology The Big Bang is explained to first not to be a "bang", the term Big Bang is used to describe rapid expansion. Second It essentially describes that Empty Space has its own energy, and those energy fluctuations can cause spontaneous changes in its fabric.

But here is the kicker SPACE is NOT Matter, it is an absence of Anything, Nothing is there. Energy is a property of matter, from where does Space, pure empty space draw energy?

There's no evidence this is caused by anything else. But ....well itself.

Mind you I stress again I'm NOT an Atheist. But your reasoning is sophomoric. and are tired theological debate tactics which have already been invalidated.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Stop quoting me.

I don't come to this forum to talk to idiots like you. Stop your obsession with me.

Yes we know, you come to the forum to sleaze on Pashtun girls and make romantic advances on them.

But if you say ridiculous , sophomoric arguments. I will call you out, you don't get a free pass because you're a desperate Bengali with a frail sense of emotional stability and gets PTSD from forum posts.

Seriously, the things you say are moronic, if you want to see an idiot, gaze at your own reflection.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Brown Skinned Savage This user is on your Ignore List.

Saying something are we Mahmoud?

lol



Mahmoud Al-Yemeni type Arab nationalist creep and jeek.

Feeling angry that your Arab nationalist B.S. and sly attempts to undermine Pashtun history, identity and culture have been undermined by people like me.

lol.

Give it a rest Arab nationalist moron.

Arabs are killing Arabs in Yemen, Arabs are killing Arabs are killing Arabs in Syria, Arabs are killing Arabs in Iraq.

Arab nationalism has failed.

Get with the programme!

lol.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Saying something are we Mahmoud?

Need I remind you?

[Damir9000]

What is truth for you? And is Truth the only thing we want in life?
If religion tells you dont kill why not we take it but if tells you kill others we must denounce it.

The Truth is; We don't know yet.

I mean't to say "Live", not "life"
I guess religion is for the people who can't just Live. They desperately need a "reason".

[Damir9000]

[MENTION=1058]Bengal_Tiger[/MENTION]

Are you pashtun or bengali?

[Brown Skinned Savage]

The Truth is; We don't know yet.

I mean't to say "Live", not "life"
I guess religion is for the people who can't just Live. They desperately need a "reason".

Religion is a managing system, bout how to manage between human kind and their surroundings. It wasn't religion that motivates need for reason, rather reasons were found that motivated religion.

[Damir9000]

Religion is a managing system, bout how to manage between human kind and their surroundings. It wasn't religion that motivates need for reason, rather reasons were found that motivated religion.

We have governments & laws for managing.
Just look at Japan. Nobody thinks about religion or god, and yet they live so peacefully over there.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

We have governments & laws for managing.
Just look at Japan. Nobody thinks about religion or god, and yet they live so peacefully over there.

You can say Governments are just a surrogate to religion. In fact that is precisely what they are, a surrogate for religion.

As for Japan, I can't comment, but if they're human beings, and knowing what we know about human nature. I doubt things are as peaceful as they seem.

[Damir9000]

You can say Governments are just a surrogate to religion. In fact that is precisely what they are, a surrogate for religion.

As for Japan, I can't comment, but if they're human beings, and knowing what we know about human nature. I doubt things are as peaceful as they seem.

Japan is better than every muslim country on the planet.

Governments are a surrogate to religion? please explain...