Anti Islamic Thread : Atheist/Agnostic Pashtuns & Pakhtuns againts Islam

[kanishka]

This thread is to respect Pashtuns that have left the religion of Islam

We don't hate muslims as we're supposed to.

We are not Muslim anymore

We may criticize Islam

but we don't attack muslims personally

this is a thread for Pashtuns(Pathans for Indian-Pakistanis) formerally known as Afghans that have become ex-muslims

[Badlun]

Great thread. Congrats that Pashtuns are getting tolerant and broadminded. I have left Islamism but not spiritual or Sufí Islam.
Also we may include Secular Pashtun. I am a Sufí secular Pashtun.

[کیش]

Great thread. Congrats that Pashtuns are getting tolerant and broadminded. I have left Islamism but not spiritual or Sufí Islam.
Also we may include Secular Pashtun. I am a Sufí secular Pashtun.

This post if filled with contradictions.

May i ask if you're from an elite family? privileged childhood perhaps?

Has you or anyone who "left Islam" been to jail before. Because you should go, for at least one night as it would lower your ego and you would know the truthiness of God's existence

[Khostai]

This post if filled with contradictions.

May i ask if you're from an elite family? privileged childhood perhaps?

Has you or anyone who "left Islam" been to jail before. Because you should go, for at least one night as it would lower your ego and you would know the truthiness of God's existence

What?

[HalloIsBack]

people from poor families are against islamism and socialism!
people from elite families have no clue what the folk need and want and consider the islamism and socialism as the best solution for them
i bet badlun is from a poor village of kunar

[کیش]

how can poor people be against "islamism" is -ism doesn't exist and is a divide and conquer tool used by chess players.

anyways,

You don't have the educational background to even make claims.

[randolph85]

Lol @ secular Sufi.

Even the founders of this sect would send this idiot to the gallows.

[Badlun]

This post if filled with contradictions.

May i ask if you're from an elite family? privileged childhood perhaps?

Has you or anyone who "left Islam" been to jail before. Because you should go, for at least one night as it would lower your ego and you would know the truthiness of God's existence

I belong to a middle class Pashtun family, but it has nothing to do with religion. I have no problem with a God for spiritual guidance but a cruel brutal barbaric God ordering killing humans is unacceptable.

[Badlun]

Lol @ secular Sufi.

Even the founders of this sect would send this idiot to the gallows.

Sufis were akways secular as Sultan and Sufi were always different not like the so calles Ulema and Taliban ,Al Qaeda, IS and other Islamista mixing religion and state.

[Kushan Prince]

Someone please ban this Kanishka, he is a moron.

[marwat]

people from poor families are against islamism and socialism!
people from elite families have no clue what the folk need and want and consider the islamism and socialism as the best solution for them
i bet badlun is from a poor village of kunar

are you the sister of donald trump?

[Khostai]

people from poor families are against islamism and socialism!
people from elite families have no clue what the folk need and want and consider the islamism and socialism as the best solution for them
i bet badlun is from a poor village of kunar

No poor people are pro Islamism or socialism depends on culture.
Elite people know what people need, thats why they are so rich and became the elite. They can use or better to say abuse the situation in to their own benefit.

Badlun is Pakistani citizen, probably punjabi, I doubt if he is even Pashtun. He also gives some indian vibes. So either Indian or one of those kafir punjabis.

[HalloIsBack]

are you the sister of donald trump?

what?

[AgriculturalJake]

I belong to a middle class Pashtun family, but it has nothing to do with religion. I have no problem with a God for spiritual guidance but a cruel brutal barbaric God ordering killing humans is unacceptable.

Simply amazing! But is it a Shinwari and Safi dual paternity family? I read that Pashtuns when they say family singular mean fathers lineage. But since you claim both Shinwari and Safi lineage through two fathers is it a proto combined family of two men who procreated to produce you through a miracle?

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=46021

[Brown Skinned Savage]

One thing that we can notice about [MENTION=1034]Badlun[/MENTION] is that the main body of their opinions, statements, and arguments rely on EXPLOITING popular Cultural Symbols and Terminology/Phrases in very warped and hyperbolic ways.


Sufis are the "Mystics" of Islam; they're believed to have the qualities of Spiritual and Intellectual Enlightenment. But do some research of Sufism and Sufis; one of the concepts of becoming a legitimate Sufi is that the Sufi must accept Islamic Shari'ah/ Islamic Law as the penultimate standard in all aspects of life and abide by it. No attainment can be reached without this being established first.

A Sufi that rejects the Shari'ah or seeks to relinquish Shari'ah would not be a Legitimate Sufi, but considered an imposter.

In Western Society Liberalism is often associated with Enlightenment, For Muslims and consequently Sufis (since Sufis are Muslim Mystics) however Liberalism is associated with the decayed, loose standards of the ignorance or Jahiliyah. Sufis view enlightenment as being more intensely devoted to the compliance to Divine Will. Something contrary to Western Liberalism. In short Western liberalism is Ignorance to the Sufi.

[MENTION=1034]Badlun[/MENTION] is attempting to distort very Contradictory Ideas by supplanting the Islamic Meaning of Sufi Enlightenment with the Western Liberal meaning, which are very at odds.

This is actually a deliberate tactic to confuse the audience who are unaware of what is actually happen or what these terms and symbols entail.

[MENTION=1034]Badlun[/MENTION] also does this with the terms Islamism and Islam; which are actually IDENTICAL in qualities and attributes. This is to portray the scenario that Badlun is not against Islam but against "Islamism"; but Islam by definition has the same traits as what they call "Islamism". In short if Badlun is against what they describe as "Islamism" then they are consequently against Islam.