Life of Muhammad (saw)--URDU--as per the Ahmadiyya

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

If Akbarkhan wants to challenge me, I am ready.

I only have one request from him. I want him to present the translation of at least one page before and one page after from where he got the quote from. This is the only fair and just way.

Otherwise, they are no different than the Jews who accused Hadhrat Mariam of a wrongful act.

These people should have shame.

I will guarantee you that akbarkhan will not take up my challenge. MARK MY WORDS.

[akbarkhan]

So you became Qadiyani overnight? Because yesterday you said "I find myself very amative to Qadiyaniat hence I am almost ready for initiation".

Besyaar mushtaaq-e ahmadiyyat astum...qareeb ast ba ba'it kardan.

And today you say "to me Ahmadiyyat is right and I will defend it till the day I die."

So in the first instance which was only yesterday you were trying to imply that you are not a Qadiyani and that you are only inclined towards it but today you admit that you have been a Qadiyani all along! That is deceitful and handywork of Iblis.

Why don't you just admit that you have been preaching Qadiyaniyat for the last 4-5 years? No, you rather remain disguised in order to catch youngester off gaurd and mislead them to the lowest parts of hell fire!


CountryMan, just give up. We have been through this in 2007.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

First off I don't know who you are. What is your name?

Secondly, what you are presented about what I have said is not contradictory. NOT AT ALL.

Now, either stop pretending to know who I am or present yourself. Secondly, who cares who I am? Prove Ahmadiyyat wrong to me.

I have presented what type of debate I want with you. Are you in or out?

[akbarkhan]

First off I don't know who you. What is your name?

Secondly, what you are presented is not contradictory. NOT AT ALL.

Now, either stop pretending to know who I am or present yourself. Secondly, who cares who I am? Prove Ahmadiyyat wrong to me.

I have presented what type of debate I want with you. Are you in or out?

Countryman,

My name is Your Nightmare and I am not pretending that I know you - you know too well that I know you. We have had the Khatimul Anbya discussion 4 years ago when you started seeking solace in red herrings.

They are contradictory!

Yesterday you implied that you were not a Qadiyani as I have quoted you in my previous post and today you say that you are a Qadiyani and are willing to die for it. So only two things must have happened between yesterday and today.

1. You were not a Qadiyani yesterday, you became on today by taking Bai'ah overnight.
2. You were a Qadiyani, but you chose to be deceitful.

Tell me which of the two is true and I am ready for any kind of debate! If you attempt to brush this aside then you are not worth my time.

How about I quote you below and allow other members to judge whether your statements are contradictory or not?

This is what you said yesterday:

Besyaar mushtaaq-e ahmadiyyat astum...qareeb ast ba ba'it kardan.

wa een harf khufiyah nest. lala jaan.

This is what you said today:

Thank you!

If I am wrong, then tell me. Otherwise, to me Ahmadiyyat is right and I will defend it till the day I die.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Whatever floats your boat!

You are not able to prove Ahmadiyyat wrong and therefore you are creating a unnecessary confusion. WHO CARES WHO I AM?

Debate Ahmadiyyat with me. YOU CAN'T AND YOU WILL NEVER ABLE TO, BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT I HAVE SET.

Why is it so hard? I am pretty sure you have read ALL of the Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's work. (NOTICE THE WINK)

[akbarkhan]

Whatever floats your boat!

You are not able to prove Ahmadiyyat wrong and therefore you are creating a unnecessary confusion. WHO CARES WHO I AM?

Debate Ahmadiyyat with me. YOU CAN'T AND YOU WILL NEVER ABLE TO, BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT I HAVE SET.

Why is it so hard? I am pretty sure you have read ALL of the Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's work. (NOTICE THE WINK)

Just tell me which of the two things I mentioned in my previous post is true and I will debate with you on any matter of your choice.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Who cares? Now are you going to debate or not.

You stand on nothing, except stupidity.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Mark my words: He will not have a debate based on the original Urdu of the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Why? Because he has not read a single book of his. His arguments, just like anyone else's against Ahmadiyyat, is based on the research of some satanic people. The same type of satanic people who have abused Islam.

If I go through the internet and bring you all sorts of allegations against Islam, none of these losers here, who are making fun of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, would be able to defend against those allegations. They will resort to the same argument that I am making: taking something out of context.

[Dreamer]

If Akbarkhan wants to challenge me, I am ready.

I only have one request from him. I want him to present the translation of at least one page before and one page after from where he got the quote from. This is the only fair and just way.

Otherwise, they are no different than the Jews who accused Hadhrat Mariam of a wrongful act.

These people should have shame.

I will guarantee you that akbarkhan will not take up my challenge. MARK MY WORDS.

Jews who questions Hz Maryam is one thing u might wanna read up on what ur mirza said about the blessed virgin then come here and talk about what the jews said!

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Dreamer, if you think that he really said what you are claiming, then bring at least one full page before the quote and one full page after the quote.

This way everyone would really see what he really said. Don't bring one liners. It is not honest.

There after we can discuss. It would also show your own honesty.

[Dreamer]

What did he say Dreamer Khan?

such is the filth that he wrote that Ive posted it once before and dont wish 2 again... safe to say that he is suffering for that and other statements he said in Bazrakh now and will suffer more on yawm al qiyama

[Dreamer]

Dreamer, if you think that he really said what you are claiming, then bring at least one full page before the quote and one full page after the quote.

This way everyone would really see what he really said. Don't bring one liners. It is not honest.

There after we can discuss. It would also show your own honesty.

the statement he wrote about the blessed virgin and other Prophets of God ( A position he himself was deluded to think he had attained) is so vile that it has been posted... safe to say you did not refute it there.... it is on u 2 refute it

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Actually, you have not told me in what context he "abused" them. A proper academic analysis would require you to also show the context in which he wrote what he wrote.

That is why I am asking you to bring forth the original Urdu, first of all. Secondly, I want to you bring forth the pages which properly discuss the context in which he wrote what he wrote.

You being someone who has studied Ahmadiyyat in and out, you have even brought one person out of Ahmadiyyat, it should not be hard for you. Now should it?

Or were you delusional about bringing your friend out of Ahmadiyyat? Or were you delusional about studying Ahmadiyyat in and out?

If you were not delusional, and have sincerely studied Ahmadiyyat in and out, then what is holding you?

[Dreamer]

read it up, Im sure u can read

[akbarkhan]

I am not going to debate with you until you answer my question. You don't answer 1 question that I have posed yet you want me to debate with you, that is nonsense!

Let me tell you why you don't want to answer my question, you are a liar that is why! You can't answer the question because you are caught red handed!

I have already debated this issue with you on many other forums in the last 3-4 years, I could simply give PF members the link to those discussions.

So here is the question again, all you have to do is answer it and I will join the debate!

Yesterday you implied that you were not a Qadiyani as I have quoted you in my previous post and today you say that you are a Qadiyani and are willing to die for it. So only two things must have happened between yesterday and today.

1. You were not a Qadiyani yesterday, you became on today by taking Bai'ah overnight.
2. You were a Qadiyani, but you chose to be deceitful.

Tell me which of the two is true and I am ready for any kind of debate! If you attempt to brush this aside then you are not worth my time.

How about I quote you below and allow other members to judge whether your statements are contradictory or not?

This is what you said yesterday:

Besyaar mushtaaq-e ahmadiyyat astum...qareeb ast ba ba'it kardan.

wa een harf khufiyah nest. lala jaan.

This is what you said today:

Thank you!

If I am wrong, then tell me. Otherwise, to me Ahmadiyyat is right and I will defend it till the day I die.