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  • Secularism.

    I see a lot of you people are misguided about secularism. I hope this video will clarify what secularism is. Its quite short.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PFvdqmkoVo

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    True face of secularism....scientific racism.
    sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

    And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ghumbasa View Post
      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FmEjDaWqA4

      True face of secularism....scientific racism.
      Ignorant fool, what has your **** to do with secularism? I can also post videos of IS beheading fellow mulsim, and call that the true face of Islam. Would you like that?

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      • #4
        And by the way your own video show how people who were relligious were the ones that started racism and it was the secularisation and enlightment movement that brought down racism.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
          Ignorant fool, what has your **** to do with secularism? I can also post videos of IS beheading fellow mulsim, and call that the true face of Islam. Would you like that?
          you always do that no wonder.

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          • #6
            What do you mean by secularism?
            "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jankhan View Post
              you always do that no wonder.
              I never posted IS videos here, I could, but I would not resort to lying and spread useless propoganda, like wht your wahabist friends do all the time.

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              • #8
                Countries like Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh are secular and have given the right to the minority to live without jizya,neither do they have Islamic shariah law.
                "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                  Ignorant fool, what has your **** to do with secularism? I can also post videos of IS beheading fellow mulsim, and call that the true face of Islam. Would you like that?
                  You can post isis videos...coz i dont belong to them anyways But where islam is mixedly presented with isis ...then ofcourse i ll defend islam.Isis are as much proxies as seculars,marxists and socialists...Secularism you ve posted in religion section means its a topic open to discuss in religions even just like athiesm or agnostism.

                  Whats the pinch of pain if you cant discuss or prove secularism while you taunted islam left right while i posted ayahs and hadeeths.
                  sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                  And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                    I never posted IS videos here, I could, but I would not resort to lying and spread useless propoganda, like wht your wahabist friends do all the time.
                    Wow who is asking you for propaganda...i am asking you to have a genuin discussion which doesnt necessarily means to have a fight or name calling...You always take it to extreme side and undergo in attacking mode.
                    sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                    And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                      And by the way your own video show how people who were relligious were the ones that started racism and it was the secularisation and enlightment movement that brought down racism.
                      Seems like you didnt grasp thr fact that they were trying best to produce perfect genes...be it a mean to kill black or poor.Religion particularly doesnt go for colour.
                      sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                      And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ghumbasa View Post
                        Seems like you didnt grasp thr fact that they were trying best to produce perfect genes...be it a mean to kill black or poor.Religion particularly doesnt go for colour.
                        Seems you forgot that relligion propagets genocide and even tells that some people are infirior to others, and in case of the west the bible says that black people are cursed by God and are lesser human, this was one of the main reason that black slavery could stand for so long. And not becuase of Secularism who found it way much later in history, way before all the genocides and slavery.

                        You must understand that eugenetics and secularism are two diffrent things. Eugenetics is about creating supirior human being and secularism is about freedom of relligion. I don't know how in the world you can mix this two up.

                        like I said before watch the the small video about secularism, its just 2 min. I proposely put this video for people like you to uderstand what true secularism is, so that you would not spread garbage about a subeject you don't even know what it means.

                        this video was also meant for [MENTION=17535]jankhan[/MENTION]. You people need to be educated more about this subject.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                          Seems you forgot that relligion propagets genocide and even tells that some people are infirior to others, and in case of the west the bible says that black people are cursed by God and are lesser human, this was one of the main reason that black slavery could stand for so long. And not becuase of Secularism who found it way much later in history, way before all the genocides and slavery.

                          You must understand that eugenetics and secularism are two diffrent things. Eugenetics is about creating supirior human being and secularism is about freedom of relligion. I don't know how in the world you can mix this two up.

                          like I said before watch the the small video about secularism, its just 2 min. I proposely put this video for people like you to uderstand what true secularism is, so that you would not spread garbage about a subeject you don't even know what it means.

                          this video was also meant for [MENTION=17535]jankhan[/MENTION]. You people need to be educated more about this subject.
                          Wow...so now you say freedom of religion is secularism...lol.Seriously taking out religion from official matters ,whats left for people to judge their crimes,marriage laws,civil laws and moral practices on?? People need religion for their daily practices and dealings as much as the true freedom of religion could ve been in govt.

                          Eugenics is the creation of secularism.Infact secularism is rising now as a radical force.
                          sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                          And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                          • #14
                            Eugenics*
                            Introduction to Eugenics:

                            The principal manifestations of eugenics are racism and abortion; eugenics
                            is the basis for "scientific racism" and laid the foundation for legalizing
                            abortion. It is the driving force behind euthanasia, in vitro fertilization,
                            and embryo and fetal research. It is the driving force in global population
                            policy, which is a key element in American foreign policy. It is the force
                            driving much of the environmentalist movement, welfare policy, welfare
                            reform, and health care. It is found in anthropology, sociology,
                            psychology-all the social sciences. It is reflected in much American
                            literature, especially science fiction. So it is worth some study.
                            DEFINITION:
                            Eugenics is the study of methods to improve the human race by controlling
                            reproduction. The word was coined in 1883 by Francis Galton, a cousin of
                            Charles Darwin. Galton believed that the proper evolution of the human race
                            was thwarted by philanthropic outreach to the poor: misguided charity
                            encouraged the "unfit" to bear more children. This upset the mechanism of
                            natural selection. Hence, the human race needed a kind of artificial
                            selection, which he called "eugenics."



                            Example:
                            Galton's suggestion that eugenics should function as a religion was ehoed by
                            George Bernard Shaw, Bertrand Russel and others.3 A pungent assertion of the
                            religious character of eugenics comes from Julian Huxley, the first
                            Director-General of the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural
                            Organization (UNESCO) and a member of the Eugenics Society: "We must face
                            the fact that now, in this year of grace, the great majority of human beings
                            are substandard: they are undernourished, or ill, or condemned to a
                            ceaseless struggle for bare existence; they are imprisoned in ignorance or
                            superstition. We must see to it that life is no longer a hell paved with
                            unrealized opportunity. In this light, the highest and most sacred duty of
                            man is seen as the proper utilization of the untapped resources of human
                            beings."
                            sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                            And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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                            • #15
                              Eugenics is the branch of both secularism and sociology.
                              sigpic"When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" (2.11)

                              And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not."(2.13)

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