Occupation of Arabia

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This thread will be dedicated to Muslims/non-Muslims alike to fully understand how illegal, unislamic, hypocritical the house of Al-Saud is with their so-called "Shariah" as their constitution. I will post informative pieces.

Here's a quick one to get it started

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The al-Sauds hold billions in American banks, have invested $420 billion in US companies, and on Wall Street as well. The Bushes and the al-Sauds are close, often eating dinner together at the White House upon their frequent visits.

But how is it possible for the US to have so much money to buy oil from Saudi Arabia? The answer is we don't. That's where arms come in for exchange for the Saudi Arab Light. The US has loaded the Saudi Arabians with the latest and shiniest in weaponry, building up its own potential enemy. As long as we are getting the black slime in return, Bush does not really care.

A large portion of Saudi Arabians live in poverty, with a 25% unemployment rate in men. The al-Sauds snatch and keep every penny (or Saudi Riyals for that matter) to themselves. They control the world with a wave of their scepter, exporting 15% of their oil to the US. No wonder Bush brown-noses them."

Arabia has an unemployment rate so high that 1 out of every 4 Arab man doesnt have a job.

America cannot pay for all the oil, so they barter advanced military firepower for them. What good is this for the majority?

Where's the Shariah?

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Chronology of the fall of the holy cities: 1744. The beginning

Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, founder of "Wahhabism," arrives in the central Arabian state of Najd in 1744 preaching a return to "pure" Islam. He seeks protection from the local emir, Muhammad ibn Saud, head of the Al Saud tribal family, and they cut a deal. The Al Saud will endorse al-Wahhab's austere form of Islam and in return, the Al Saud will get political legitimacy and regular tithes from al-Wahhab's followers. The religious-political alliance that al-Wahhab and Saud forge endures to this day in Saudi Arabia.

By the 19th century, the Al Saud has spread its influence across the Arabian Peninsula, stretching from the Red Sea to the Persian Gulf and including the Two Holy Cities of Mecca and Medina. But in 1818, forces of the Ottoman Empire sack the capital, Riyadh, and execute many of the religious and political leaders. Over the next eighty years the Al Saud attempt to reestablish their rule on the Arabian Peninsula without success.

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1902 Abd Al-aziz and the Ikhwan

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In 1902, a direct descendent of Muhammad ibn Saud, twenty-year-old Abd al-Aziz ibn Saud, rides out of the desert with 60 of his brothers and cousins to restore the rule of Al Saud. He captures Riyadh, the ancient capital of the Saudi kingdom, but to conquer all of the Arabian Peninsula, he seeks the help of nomadic Bedouins, the Ikhwan, or Muslim brothers. Renowned warriors, the Ikhwan are also fervent Wahhabi Islamic puritans who want to spread their form of Islam throughout the Middle East."

1924-25 Abd Al-Aziz steals Mecca and Madina betrays the Ikhwans who fought for him
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With the Ikhwan by his side, Abd al-Aziz captures province after province of the vast desert. He captures Mecca in 1924 and Medina in 1925, becoming the ruler of the Two Holy Cities of Islam. But the Ikhwan want to spread Wahhabism beyond Arabia and when Abd al-Aziz tries to restrain them, they rebel. To survive, Abd al-Aziz realizes he has to destroy the Ikhwan. But how can he, a defender of Islam, justify going to war against his Muslim warriors?

Abd al-Aziz seeks the approval of the ulama, the religious authorities, regarded as the moral guardians of the realm. With the ulama's endorsement, he crushes the Ikhwan."

Lol at these bogus ulama's who approve anything these despots do.

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After a Quick Google search,I had come to know that they indeed are the indigenous People of arabia.If you can prove it otherwise,Do it

Sorry,But i am not spamming

It doesn't if their indigenous or not. They're still occupying the holy cities of Mecca and Madina. Get off Google and read a book.

And yes you're spamming cause you haven't read my posts. Now, please, learn

III) 1932
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Abd al-Aziz ibn Saud declares himself king and gives his name to the country: Saudi Arabia. To keep his new kingdom united, he marries a daughter from every tribe as well as from the influential clerical families -- more than twenty wives, although never more than four at one time, in accordance with the Quran.

These unions produce 45 legitimate sons and an unknown number of daughters (daughters are not counted). Abd al-Aziz then begins consolidating power away from the brothers and cousins who helped him conquer the peninsula in favor of his own sons. Every Saudi king since has been a son of Abd al-Aziz ibn Saud."

Smh where's the shariah and islamic laws here. There is no "Kings" in Islam first and foremost. This despotic prick marries more than 20 wives. More than 2.5 than the Prophet, and 4X that is permitted for any man.

Fat prick Abd al-aziz takes away power from his brothers and cousins who helped him in power and gave it to his sons. Making it a family monarchy. Another anti-Islamic move.

1933: Oil
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Saudi Arabia and the U.S. establish diplomatic relations, and in 1933 the first foreign oil prospectors arrive in the kingdom. The Americans pay $170,000 in gold for land concessions that turn out to contain the biggest oil fields on earth. Ignoring criticism that inviting foreigners into the kingdom is un-Islamic, and citing precedent in the Quran, King Abd al-Aziz invites U.S oil companies to develop Saudi oil resources. The oil companies and the Saudi government set up a joint enterprise that later becomes the Arabian American Oil Company (Aramco). Its shareholders include America's four largest oil corporations."

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1953: Prince Saud becomes King

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Before his death in 1953, King Abd al-Aziz designates his eldest son, Prince Saud, the next king and appoints his second son, Prince Faisal, minister of foreign affairs. But Prince Saud will prove an ineffective ruler. His reign will be marked by inattention to governance and misuse of money."

Another illegal, unislamic move by Al-Saud to appoint an unworthy son to be a "King". It leads to obvious failures as he has no right to be in control of Mecca and Madinah.

1957
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The Middle East balance of power shifts after Gamal Abdel Nasser's overthrow of Egypt's king in 1952. Nasser proclaims himself a pan-Arabist -- a secular, socialist -- and allies himself with the Soviet Union against the West. Nasser also wants Saudi oil under his control, saying it belongs to all Arab people.


King Saud visits the U.S.


The U.S. moves to shore up support for Saud. President Eisenhower invites him for a state visit in Feb. 1957. Eisenhower wants to renew the lease on the Dhahran airbase, a useful strategic asset in the Cold War. Saud wants the money that the U.S. will pay to extend the lease. And he privately promises to suspend all aid to Egypt. To this day, the agreement that Faisal and Eisenhower sign constitutes the basis of U.S.-Saudi military cooperation.

But Saud soon spends the revenues from the Dhahran lease on luxury trips to Europe and falls out of favor with his own family."

What just happened again? A so-called ruler of Mecca, spends an unknown number of money doing who knows what in Europe. So much for shariah in Arabia

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1967: the Arab-Israeli war

Faisal is new despot of Arabia.
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In the spring of 1967 war is brewing. President Nasser of Egypt moves troops to Israel's border and orders the UN out. Uniting against Israel, Faisal reconciles with Nasser. Fearing an attack is imminent, Israel launches a massive pre-emptive war. In just six days the bulk of Arab armies are destroyed and Arab leaders are humiliated. At Aramco's compounds, hundreds of Saudis riot against the United States. The Arab league pressures King Faisal to use Saudi oil as a weapon against the West."

1973: the Arab oil embargo
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In Oct. 1973, another Arab-Israeli war breaks out. Despite growing tensions, the Arab attack on Israel comes as a surprise. In the first day, Egyptian and Syrian armies gain considerable ground.

In the midst of the war, the U.S. airlifts supplies to Israel. The Arab League pressures Faisal for an oil boycott and Faisal acts, ordering Aramco to stop pumping. With Saudi oil kept off the market, world oil prices quadruple. President Nixon sends Secretary of State Henry Kissinger on an urgent mission to meet with Faisal. The Pentagon begins considering military options. Kissinger says oil is a national security priority, and if necessary, the U.S. will intervene militarily.

With the oil embargo having a major impact on the war in Vietnam, a secret solution is devised: King Faisal agrees to arrange for Saudi oil to be covertly supplied to the U.S. Navy. The oil embargo officially ends in 1974."

Here is when dictator Faisal could have gotten respect to stand up against Western intervention to support the Palestinian brotherhood. But like a real Al-Saud, he bytched out and sold himself even more

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1975-79: the oil boom years
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During the reign of King Khalid, hundreds of billions in oil revenue pours into Saudi Arabia. The tiny population, estimated at four million and with only half a million literate males, finds it hard to absorb such wealth. The government begins a frenzied pace of buying and building. Foreign contractors flood in. Among those accumulating massive riches during these years are the bin Ladens, principal builders for the Al Saud royal family.

The boom also leads to widespread official corruption. Deals are riddled with influence peddling, bribes and oversize commissions. The Saudi royals, with their huge allowances, become notorious big spenders in Europe's casinos. Saudi leaders lose the credibility and respect of the country's religious conservatives."

Here you go, another chance for Al-Saud dynasty to redeem themselves by spreading the wealth to their small number of citizens. But, since they are greedy, unislamic, do not follow Shariah, the Saud family spends money like its nothing on personal goods. Smh

[Badlun]

This thread will be dedicated to Muslims/non-Muslims alike to fully understand how illegal, unislamic, hypocritical the house of Al-Saud is with their so-called "Shariah" as their constitution. I will post informative pieces.

Here's a quick one to get it started

I)"
The al-Sauds hold billions in American banks, have invested $420 billion in US companies, and on Wall Street as well. The Bushes and the al-Sauds are close, often eating dinner together at the White House upon their frequent visits.

But how is it possible for the US to have so much money to buy oil from Saudi Arabia? The answer is we don't. That's where arms come in for exchange for the Saudi Arab Light. The US has loaded the Saudi Arabians with the latest and shiniest in weaponry, building up its own potential enemy. As long as we are getting the black slime in return, Bush does not really care.

A large portion of Saudi Arabians live in poverty, with a 25% unemployment rate in men. The al-Sauds snatch and keep every penny (or Saudi Riyals for that matter) to themselves. They control the world with a wave of their scepter, exporting 15% of their oil to the US. No wonder Bush brown-noses them."

Arabia has an unemployment rate so high that 1 out of every 4 Arab man doesnt have a job.

America cannot pay for all the oil, so they barter advanced military firepower for them. What good is this for the majority?

Where's the Shariah?

Where does Sharia say that you cannot have relations with a country like USA?

What does Sharia recommend for alleviation of poverty and employment?

Sharia is covering the women with cloth like a dead body, hadood(alcohol, adultery/fornication,cutting hands, stoning to death or beheading etc), prayers, fasting, hajj, zakat, no music, no dance, no sculpture, polygamy, making woman half of man in inheritance and evidence etc , and all this stuff we find in Saudi Arabia. Saudi has no constitution and Quran is its constitution.

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Saudi Arabia is not the Dar-ul-Islam. Form of government in Saudi Arabia - the Kingdom, not an Islamic Emirate.

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Saudi Arabia is a state of social inequality and apartheid.

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The Saudi regime uses religion to manipulate people, for usurpation of power and disregard for the rights and freedoms of citizens.

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Where does Sharia say that you cannot have relations with a country like USA?

In Shariah it is illegal to be oppressors. Saud family oppresses non-Arab Muslims. So your first answer was that easy to find an answer

What does Sharia recommend for alleviation of poverty and employment?

That is up to the government to create innovative ideas to rid poverty, and create consistent jobs for its citizens

Sharia is covering the women with cloth like a dead body,

Quran verses?

hadood(alcohol, adultery/fornication,cutting hands, stoning to death or beheading etc),

In the Quran it says they could also be forgiven

prayers, fasting, hajj, zakat,

These activities make someone a better, more complete person

no music, no dance,

So

no sculpture, polygamy, making woman half of man in inheritance and evidence etc ,

Polygamy? Not for every John, **** and Harry. The Quran clearly states if a man cannot take care and love more than one wife, they need to stick to one.

and all this stuff we find in Saudi Arabia. Saudi has no constitution and Quran is its constitution.

Where was it in the "Quranic" constitution for Al-Saud to side with the British against the Muslim Ottomans. You don't know what you're saying

So yea, you're mistaken. Please read more and more. Until than, please don't troll this thread as I will continue to add more clear evidence of Al-Saud's unislamic takeover of Arabia.

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1979: seizure of the Harem
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One of Saudi Arabia's most shocking events occurs the morning of November 20, 1979. Several hundred Saudi fundamentalists take over al-Haram, the Great Mosque at Mecca and the holiest site in Islam. The leader of the insurgents is Juhayman al-Utaybi, a direct descendant of the Ikhwan, the Wahhabi warriors who helped the Al Saud family take power in the early 1920s.

The radicals call for a return to pure Islam, and a reversal of modernization. Juhayman also accuses the royal family of corruption and says they have lost their legitimacy because of their dealings with the West.

The royal family again turns to the ulama, the religious leaders of Saudi Arabia, and the clerics issue a fatwa based on verses from the Quran that allows the government to use all necessary force to retake the Great Mosque. The standoff lasts for several weeks before the Saudi military can remove the insurgents. More than 200 troops and dissidents are killed in the attacks and, to set an example, over sixty of the zealots are publicly beheaded in their hometowns."

Who the hell are these "Ulema's" they turn too that somehow grant them permission "from the Quran" to massacre a group of Ikhwan descendants who had the right to protest the family to abscond from holy cities. The Ikhwan were the one who did the dirty work to put the ungrateful family in power, and they twice stabbed them in the back.

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1979: soviet invades Afg. Saudi family finds way to save face and deceive Muslims
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Shaken by the seizure of the Great Mosque by radical fundamentalists, the royal family moves to increase its religious standing and starts implementing a more Islamist agenda. They begin pumping millions into religious education under the ulama. Saudi charities raise even more. New theological schools and universities are built to produce large numbers of clerics who teach Wahhabism as the only true form of Islam and preach jihad against infidels is the obligation of every true believer.

This same year, the Wahhabis find a rallying cause like no other: The Soviet Union, the godless Communist power, invades the Muslim nation of Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia and the U.S. make a secret deal to contribute equal amounts to finance the Afghan war against the Soviets.

Thousands of young Saudis are sent to fight alongside the mujahideen in Afghanistan For the next decade, some 45,000 young Saudi volunteers will trek to Afghanistan where they acquire military skills and come to believe that dedicated Islamic fighters can defeat a superpower. One of their leaders is Osama bin Laden.
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1979: Iranian revolution
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In the wake of Ayatollah Khomeini's bitterly anti-American Shi'a fundamentalist revolution in Iran and the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia strengthen their security relationship. Rising oil revenues allow the Saudis to increase military expenditures at all levels."

1982 Iran-Iraq war
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King Kahlid dies after a short illness and is succeeded by his half-brother Crown Prince Fahd. The new king will face economic constraints as oil prices decline in the late 80s.


Saddam Hussein and King Fahd


Just as Fahd takes power, war breaks out between his two powerful neighbors, Iran and Iraq. Fahd befriends Saddam Hussein, a fellow Sunni, and gives him money and weapons to battle the Shi'a in Iran. But two years after the war ends, Saddam will invade neighboring Kuwait, with his eye on Saudi oil."

Tyrant Khalid dies and if they were 1% shariah they wouldn't give it to an undeserving brother. Oh wait they did. Then they has the audacity to spread Wahhabi ideology throughout the world. The reason why they did they was to ensure that no one would think about seizing the Kaaba again.

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The Al Saud family got lucky to take control of the territory after the Arab revolt. King Faisal of Iraq wanted a united Arab state stretching from Aleppo to Aden while the Al Sauds were only concerned of establishing their own tribe in power. They didn't care about arab unity.

Arabs have never been united because they get their greed and tribalism get in the way.