eye contact in islam

[RevolutionThroughReason]

This isn't true; you know in our Islamic annals we have references of Nabi(saw) once seeing a woman and then going to his wife. Did Nabi(saw) sin by doing so? clearly Nabi was gazing. We know that during the Amirat in Madinah the Amat were topless, clearly all Muslims saw these or how would this get reported? What we are lead to think are Islamic miorals/ethics are peoples culturalification of Islam. I'm not saying in Islam you can just go and check out women and indulge your senses, I'm saying that Islam isn't that rigid as it is portrayed.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

This isn't true; you know in our Islamic annals we have references of Nabi(saw) once seeing a woman and then going to his wife. Did Nabi(saw) sin by doing so? clearly Nabi was gazing. We know that during the Amirat in Madinah the Amat were topless, clearly all Muslims saw these or how would this get reported? What we are lead to think are Islamic miorals/ethics are peoples culturalification of Islam. I'm not saying in Islam you can just go and check out women and indulge your senses, I'm saying that Islam isn't that rigid as it is portrayed.

Basically, what you are saying is that Prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalam was following his desires by gazing at a woman until he got aroused and then went to his wife.

Thats just beyond absurdity.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I never suggested that at all, I'm saying simply seeing a woman is not sinful, it's when you take things to another level and your mind goes into the desire to act on immorality is it a sinful, if we went by your approach then you just indirectly accused Nabi(saw) of sinning .Which is worse. That's why I say this whole argument is based on total obtuse thinking from the so called "Orthodoxy"

Sahih Muslim 3240: Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: The woman advances and returns in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart.

Think, don't just follow blindly like a sheep

[DaZahroJaam.]

one could open a thread about the constellations of stars and the two of you sheikhs will manage to find a way to turn the argument about sex.
Get a ****ing hobby, morons.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Well the thread you made is argued on the basis of sexuality right? Genders and sexuality are related. The Legal Codes that are argued are attempts at navigating someone's sexuality.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I never suggested that at all, I'm saying simply seeing a woman is not sinful, it's when you take things to another level and your mind goes into the desire to act on immorality is it a sinful, if we went by your approach then you just indirectly accused Nabi(saw) of sinning .Which is worse. That's why I say this whole argument is based on total obtuse thinking from the so called "Orthodoxy"



Think, don't just follow blindly like a sheep

You think you are being clever by saying things like this. But you are only affirming the fact that you are no longer a Muslim and you take every opportunity to behave like a lesser version of Badlun. In reality you both are the same thing.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Well unless you can actually precisely demonstrate your accusation, then you're trying to pigeonhole something based on your shallow understanding of things. Your emotional black mail tactics don't work on me. I'm confident on where I stand.

Considering you just basically accused Nabi(saw) of committing sins, I don't think you have any ground to stand on.

[IvNoName]

This thread is embarrassing and tacky.