Sunni and Shia clerics jointly lead the evening prayer in Gilgit,Pakistan

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Good indeed

[Khilji]

Abbas Shah hazara speech on 25th june 12 PMAP quetta - YouTube

[Karachi]

Gilgit/Chitral areas seem to be very peaceful societies, most of the people up there are Ismaili anyways though. They still have strong Dardic cultural roots

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Kashmir region as a whole is very peaceful.

Kashmir literacy rate an average was highest in pakistan though recently surpassed by other cities such as federal islamabad

kashmir literacy rate is more like 80% now

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Education indeed turn one into civilized and tolerant individual

education could be the reason why Kashmir/GB is so peaceful and tolerent society

In 2006 they had 78% literacy.it seems like by now they wil atleast be close to 90%

http://www.kashmiri.info/Pakistan-held-Kashmir/literacy-rate-in-azad-jammu-and-kashmir-soars-to-78-percent-leaves-the-rest-of-pakistan-behind.html

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Gilgit/Chitral areas seem to be very peaceful societies, most of the people up there are Ismaili anyways though. They still have strong Dardic cultural roots

What is the ruling regarding Isma'eelyyah in Hanafi madhab?

Are they considered Muslims?

[Catya Sher]

This is great. Thank you for posting, because we need
some encouraging news.

There is NO point in hostilities on any level between Shia and Sunni.
I was just thinking about this topic anyway.

Think how much ENERGY over the centuries the competition
has DRAINED AWAY ?

Think how that energy could be spent SO WELL, like in
perfecting oneself and educating others about the religion,
and helping them along to develop better habits in their lives.

Think about the outside influences always trying to stir up
this Shia-Sunni conflict. It's absolutely that this obvious
trap to siphon off the energies of Muslims all over the world
gets STILL fallen into, right and left. It's dangerous
to fall into this way of thinking of hostility.

Better for the 2 to get along and COOPERATE.
Shias are really well organized.
They can HELP Afghanistan get itself back on its feet after
the occupation ends God willing.

People of the region have to put aside suspicions of
each other and instead worry about the OUTSIDE negative
influence, which is a REAL threat to the entire culture
and society.

[Karachi]

This is great. Thank you for posting, because we need
some encouraging news.

There is NO point in hostilities on any level between Shia and Sunni.
I was just thinking about this topic anyway.

Think how much ENERGY over the centuries the competition
has DRAINED AWAY ?

Think how that energy could be spent SO WELL, like in
perfecting oneself and educating others about the religion,
and helping them along to develop better habits in their lives.

Think about the outside influences always trying to stir up
this Shia-Sunni conflict. It's absolutely that this obvious
trap to siphon off the energies of Muslims all over the world
gets STILL fallen into, right and left. It's dangerous
to fall into this way of thinking of hostility.

Better for the 2 to get along and COOPERATE.
Shias are really well organized.
They can HELP Afghanistan get itself back on its feet after
the occupation ends God willing.

People of the region have to put aside suspicions of
each other and instead worry about the OUTSIDE negative
influence, which is a REAL threat to the entire culture
and society.

Unfortunatly it wont away so soon, because there are people in pakistan and other countries who think killing shias will earn them paradise. They have been brain washed. Same is true for shia extremists who think their sect is the only correct one.

The hatred is very strong and runs deep in the veins, it wont go away until perhaps next few generations to come. I agree that work on it has to be started now before there is a all out war

[Ansari1]

Isma'iliyyah is beyond the fold of Islaam. However, there is an interesting detail from the Shi'a books of creed regarding prayer behind a sunni:

The founder of present Shi'ism, Muhammad Baqir al Majlisi writes in one of his most important series of books for Shi'ism "Bihaar al Anwaar" the following:

تبيين : " خلف الامام " أي أئمة الجور الذين كانوا في زمانهم عليهما السلام ، كانا يصليان خلفهم تقية ، ولا ينويان الاقتداء بهم ، وكانا يقرآن ويصليان لانفسهما

"Behind the Imam" means, the evil imams which were present in their times (AS) they used to pray behind them as in means of Taqiyyah [lying/deception] and did not make the niyyah [have the intention] of imitating them. They used to recite for themselves and perform their own prayers".

Bihaar al Anwaar, 85/47





It is more than obvious. Furthermore, the so called "Ahl al khilaaf" [sunnis/islamic community] are all disbelievers according to Shi'ism and their scholars:




This is what the biggest muhaddith and scholar of Shi'ism [also the founding father of the Najaf institution] has to say about it:


يدلنا على عدم اعتبار عدم المنوحة حال الصلاة وانما يصلي معهم مع التمكن من الاتيان بالوظيفة الواقعية على سبيل المداراة لا الضرورة والاضطرار. ما ينبغي التنبيه عليه: ومما ينبغي أن ينبه عليه في المقام هو أن الصلاة معهم ليست كالصلاة خلف الامام العادل وانما هي على ما يستفاد من الروايات صورة صلاة يحسبها العامة صلاة وائتماما بهم ومن هنا لم يرد في الروايات عنوان الاقتداء بهم بل ورد عنوان الصلاة معهم، فهو يدخل الصلاة معهم ويؤذن ويقيم ويقرء لنفسه على نحو لا يسمع همسه فضلا عن صوته.

"What needs clarification in this topic is that praying behind them [sunnis] is not like praying behind a just imam, but in reality it is just the image of a prayer as is proven from the narrations. Al Amah [sunnis] think it is a prayer and that they are being followed as Imams. From this we see why the narrations only speak about prayer and not following or imitating them. So he [shia] enters the prayer with them, [but] he makes his own Adhaan, recites his own iqaamah, and he recites for himself in a way that no one would be able to hear him".



Kitaab at Tahaara, Abul Qaasim al kho'i, volume 4, p.313

http://www.al-khoei.us/books/?id=872

The prayer of Ahl ul Sunnah and their Imam is not relied upon by the Shi'a [Mir'aat al Uqool 15/256] and the Islamic community are ALL apostates according to Shi'a books of creed [Al Sadooq,Al Amali, p 656, #5] and the one not believing in their concept of Imamah is a kaafir [Mullah Baqir al Majlisi, Haqqul Yaqeen, p 189].





Grand Ayatullah Muhammad Sadiq al-Roohani says in “Fiqh al-Sadiq” 6/266:
[The second: al-Iman(The belief), meaning he has to recognize the Imamah of the twelve Imams (as) and that it is something which should not be doubted, the consensus regarding this was reported to us through a group. What supports it: many texts such as the Sahih of Zurarah from abu Ja'afar (as) about praying behind the Mukhalifeen, he (as) said: "To me, they are of the same status as walls."

And Sahih al-Barqi: He wrote to abu Ja'afar (as):" is it permissible to pray behind those who did not accept the Imamah of your father and grandfather (as)?"
He replied: "Do not pray behind him."]






In conclusion, don't be overwhelmed by these nifaaq driven shayaateen.

[abassinafghan]

how great that afghan shias are considerd kafirs while napaki shias are brother brother .

What is the ruling regarding Isma'eelyyah in Hanafi madhab?

Are they considered Muslims?

are you serious ??? plz tajik boy learn more about your history and culture , i know you hate pashtuns and afghanistan and you love punjabis .

[afghan]

Abbas Shah hazara speech on 25th june 12 PMAP quetta - YouTube

grans the hazara from queta are very proud people and have always been side by side with pashtun. they hate afghan hazara.

[Catya Sher]

Thanks for the thoughtful answer,
Karachi.
I still think better vision needs to be implemented
regarding this explosive topic, which NEED NOT be incendiary.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

how great that afghan shias are considerd kafirs while napaki shias are brother brother .



are you serious ??? plz tajik boy learn more about your history and culture , i know you hate pashtuns and afghanistan and you love punjabis .

Shamlawar's family are Babakar Khel last I knew which is a branch of Ahmadzai. Last I checked Ahmadzai are not Tajiks.

[abassinafghan]

Shamlawar's family are Babakar Khel last I knew

do you know him in person ? he is a farsisaban kabuli assimilated pos ,who wants that afghans give up their language and speak arabic , while his wahabi sheikh is mastrubating on arab facisms and calls him self supermaster muslim .

you should not belive everything what some one tells you on the net

[Ansari1]

do you know him in person ? he is a farsisaban kabuli assimilated pos ,who wants that afghans give up their language and speak arabic , while his wahabi sheikh is mastrubating on arab facisms and calls him self supermaster muslim .

you should not belive everything what some one tells you on the net

You are quite a pathetic character