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  • #16
    Mawlid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Mawlid aka Eid milad e nabi, is also celebrate many Arab countries

    The earliest observation of the Prophet's birth as a holy day was arranged privately somewhere in the late twelfth century. The only difference from before was that there was an increased number of visitors to the Mawlid house that was open for the whole day specifically for this celebration. This particular event took place on Monday, 12 Rabi'i,[9] which is commonly known as the third month of the Islamic calendar that is associated with the beginning of Spring.[10] This celebration was introduced into the city Sabta by Abu 'l'Abbas al-Azafi as a way of counteracting Christian festivals and to strengthen Muslim identity.[11] Abu 'l'Abbas's son Abu 'l-Kasim propagated the festival after he seized power in 1250. Implementing these festivities and the celebration of Mawlid as a holy day increased Abu 'l-Kasim's popularity among the people, demonstrating the political role that this holy day played throughout history.[11]
    Legality:
    Traditionally, Sunni scholars have approved celebration of Mawlid-un-Nabi, the exception being Wahhabi scholars, who do not.[16][17]
    In the Muslim world, the majority of Islamic scholars are in favor of Mawlid. They consider observing Mawlid necessary or permissible in Islam, and see it as a praiseworthy event and positive development,[16][17] while the Ahl al-Hadith say it is an improper innovation and forbid its celebration. One of the most acceptable leader of Salafiyyun, Ibn Taymiyya forbade Mawlid celebration.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by EvilPakistani View Post
      Mawlid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Mawlid aka Eid milad e nabi, is also celebrate many Arab countries



      Legality:
      Wikipedia is not the source of legal matters in Islam.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
        Wikipedia is not the source of legal matters in Islam.
        Wikipedia cited sources, if you doubt wikipedia, just read the footnotes at the end of the article.
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        • #19
          This issue has nothing to do with ethnicity.

          Deobandis and wahhabis dont believe in the concept of celebrating milaad un nabi.

          Barelvi and sufi muslims do celebrate it.

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          • #20
            Selling women into marriage. Using women as bargaining chip to settle disputes, ruling by local customs and traditions instead of shariah. Tribalism. There are too many.
            what does selling women into marriage mean ? is there no nikkah ? no nikkah khat ?slavery ?or only because a father demand that a man provide a certain sum of money , as proof that he is able to take care of the women . most times this money is given to the couple and they can keep it , or instead of money land or other assets are demanded , and most times the couple can keep it .

            selling women is an arabic custom , its called slavery .


            ruling by local customs and traditions instead of shariah. Tribalism.
            so if its not against islam and is not forbidden , i dont see why any local custom should be bad or biddah .

            unless , that your shariah is actually saudi wahabism , and your saudi sheiks have their own agenda behind it , to turn you into an arab .regarding tirbalism , go to lybia go to arabia and see how they treat and address black people and what name . thats not tribalism but pure racism .

            those people you talk so lightly in your suppossed arrogance , live by far a more pious and religious life than you and your familiy ever could.

            i will not mention all the bad things you do by just leaving the house and using your computer .

            There are too many.
            yes thats because you could only name one , because there so many .

            get the **** out of here , shia farsisaban tajoke boy.

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            • #21
              ive never heard of any tajiks or pashtuns celeberate this.

              i call wahabot propaganda.

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              • #22
                Pashtuns of pakistan (dont know about afghans) are deobandis, they dont celebrate milad and other innovations in islam. While punjabis, sindhis and majority of hindostani muslims are bareilvis. The reason that pashtuns are mostly deobandis are because deoband was founded by rohilla pashtuns of india who had links with present day kpk of pakistan.
                [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                  Pashtuns of pakistan (dont know about afghans) are deobandis, they dont celebrate milad and other innovations in islam. While punjabis, sindhis and majority of hindostani muslims are bareilvis. The reason that pashtuns are mostly deobandis are because deoband was founded by rohilla pashtuns of india who had links with present day kpk of pakistan.
                  What is deobandi? Do you think Pashtuns are deobandi because some of them are founders of darul uloom in India? That doesnt make much sense.

                  Have you ever wondered why deobandis are against milaad e nabi?
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    What is deobandi? Do you think Pashtuns are deobandi because some of them are founders of darul uloom in India? That doesnt make much sense.

                    Have you ever wondered why deobandis are against milaad e nabi?
                    You are trying to give it ethnic colours, but it has relevance with deoband school of thought than with ethnicity. That is deobandis of punjabi of any other non-pashtun also do not celebrate milad and do not consider holy prophet p.b.u.h as noor rather than bashar.
                    [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                      Pashtuns of pakistan (dont know about afghans) are deobandis, they dont celebrate milad and other innovations in islam. While punjabis, sindhis and majority of hindostani muslims are bareilvis. The reason that pashtuns are mostly deobandis are because deoband was founded by rohilla pashtuns of india who had links with present day kpk of pakistan.
                      Pashtuns in Pakistan I believe atleast 80% of them or even more are deobandi.

                      Though barelvi i suppose is the rest of Pakistan and India aswell

                      I read in wiki that 60% of Muslims in South asia are Barelvi
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        Pashtuns in Pakistan I believe atleast 80% of them or even more are deobandi.

                        Though barelvi i suppose is the rest of Pakistan and India aswell

                        I read in wiki that 60% of Muslims in South asia are Barelvi
                        There were never statistics about these but you are right deobandis in pakistan are mostly pakhtuns. Deobandis are minority in rest of pakistan and india.
                        I dont know whether afghans are affiliated to deoband are not. The taliban of afghanistan, graduated from madrassas of pashtun belt of pakistan.
                        [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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                        • #27
                          I remember in my childhood and still in some villages in Pashtunland where Wahabism, Salafism, Deobandism, Panjpeeryat and Ahle Hadith have not reached , used to celebrate Milad. Pashtuns are now dominated by Wahabi Panjpeeri Mullahs and Taliban thats why Milad is not seen that much as in past.

                          Pashtuns in some areas call it yawolasama dolasama(11th, 12th) instead of Milad. Wahabism being an anti-life ideology has made havoc of all celebrations in Pashtunland including Milad.

                          I met a Saudi man the other day and it was utter surprise for me that they celebrate Milad in Madina. I have seen Muslims celebrating Milad in Indonesia, Malaysia, Central Asia and Africa. Only Wahabis dominated Arab world do not celebrate it.

                          Milad is not at all an innovation in a bad sense. A car is innovation if you think this way. Then why we do not travel by camels. What is bad in this celebration of Milad? remembering the day the most successful man Prophet Muhamamd was born. If it was not in the Arab culture to celebrate birthdays, it does not mean we should not do so!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                            I remember in my childhood and still in some villages in Pashtunland where Wahabism, Salafism, Deobandism, Panjpeeryat and Ahle Hadith have not reached , used to celebrate Milad. Pashtuns are now dominated by Wahabi Panjpeeri Mullahs and Taliban thats why Milad is not seen that much as in past.

                            Pashtuns in some areas call it yawolasama dolasama(11th, 12th) instead of Milad. Wahabism being an anti-life ideology has made havoc of all celebrations in Pashtunland including Milad.

                            I met a Saudi man the other day and it was utter surprise for me that they celebrate Milad in Madina. I have seen Muslims celebrating Milad in Indonesia, Malaysia, Central Asia and Africa. Only Wahabis dominated Arab world do not celebrate it.

                            Milad is not at all an innovation in a bad sense. A car is innovation if you think this way. Then why we do not travel by camels. What is bad in this celebration of Milad? remembering the day the most successful man Prophet Muhamamd was born. If it was not in the Arab culture to celebrate birthdays, it does not mean we should not do so!
                            The innovation of a car and innovation in a religious matter, these are two different things. Don't give a bad example.
                            Muslims do not celebrate it because Muhammad peace be upon him did not celebrate the birth day of Eisa peace be upon him, Sahaba kiraam did not celebrate the birth day of any prophet including the last prophet and even after them, no Muslim celebrated the days of Ali, Usman, Umar or Abubakkar R.A.
                            This is the main difference between Muslims and other religious people like Christians for example, they have twisted their religion according to their own likes and dislikes, They don't talk about the original source.
                            We Muslim alhamdulillah always try to get stick to the original source otherwise we will be the same like Christians.

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                            • #29
                              Can anybody explain what exactly deobandiyyah is?
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                              • #30
                                in Afghanistan i have never heard of anything called deobandi.
                                neither have i heard it in pekhawar.

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