Zen Buddhism

[Kochagasht]

i've read some books on Zen and the Zazen; it's very quirky, i would say, not illogical or inconsistent. their aim seems to be to demonstrate that things are whatever you think they are. that things are essentially very simple, so do not complicate them needlessly

"buddhas don't save buddhas. If you use your mind to look for a buddha, you won't see the buddha. as long as you look for a buddha somewhere else, you'll never see that your own mind is the Buddha. Don't use a buddha to worship a buddha. And don't use the mind to invoke a buddha. buddhas don't recite sutras. buddhas don't keep precepts. And buddhas don't break precepts. Buddhas don't keep or break anything. buddhas don't do good or evil. to find a buddha, you have to see your nature."

[Badlun]

It seems we both are going on the same path. I have read Zen Buddhism. The greatest exponent of Zen Buddhism is Osho. Please read him. You will find him highly interesting . He has changed my life completely. We have a thread on Osho here.

I am practicing Muslim religiously as I have no issues with the 5 pillars of Islam but for my spiritual, political, economic and other pursuits I get guidance from other sources like Zen Buddhism. I do appreciate your effort of opening this thread on one of my favorite topic Zen Buddhism which is against rituals and theoretical knowledge but direct experience and enlightenment. It was also influenced by Confucianism and Taoism.

What do you think of sanbo kayodan, soto and rinzai?

[Kochagasht]

It seems we both are going on the same path. I have read Zen Buddhism. The greatest exponent of Zen Buddhism is Osho. Please read him. You will find him highly interesting . He has changed my life completely. We have a thread on Osho here.

I am practicing Muslim religiously as I have no issues with the 5 pillars of Islam but for my spiritual, political, economic and other pursuits I get guidance from other sources like Zen Buddhism. I do appreciate your effort of opening this thread on one of my favorite topic Zen Buddhism which is against rituals and theoretical knowledge but direct experience and enlightenment. It was also influenced by Confucianism and Taoism.

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What do you think of sanbo kayodan, soto and rinzai?

since i haven't watched the matrix trilogy the names are lost on me but i think i know what you are alluding to

[Kushan Prince]

[Pakhtunzai]

Definitely devil worship..........

[Badlun]

The Rinzai-tradition emphasizes kensho, insight into one's true nature. This is followed by so-called post-satori practice, further practice to attain Buddhahood. It is about sudden insight followed by gradual cultivation. It claims that insight into our true nature is sudden, but is to be followed by practice to ripen the insight and attain full Buddhahood. kensho is at the start of the path to full enlightenment.

To attain this primary insight and to deepen it, zazen and kōan-study is deemed essential. This trajectory of initial insight followed by a gradual deepening and ripening is expressed by Linji in his Three mysterious Gates, and the Four Ways of Knowing of Hakuin.

Soto

The Sōtō-school has de-emphasized kōans and instead emphasized shikantaza.Dogen, the founder of Soto in Japan, emphasised that practice and awakening cannot be separated. By practicing shikantaza, attainment and Buddhahood are already being expressed.

Sanbo Kyodan

The Sanbo Kyodan combines Soto and Rinzai teachings. It is Japanese lay-organisation which is highly influential in the west via Hakuun Yasutani, Philip Kapleau, Yamada Koun and Taizan Maezumi. Yasutani mentions three goals of Zen: development of concentration (joriki), awakening (kensho-godo), and realisation of Zen in daily life (mujodo no taigen). Kensho is stressed, but also post-satori practice.

Yasutani discerns five kinds of Zen:

Bompu Zen, aimed bodily and mental health
Gedo Zen, practices like dhyana, Yoga and Christian contemplation which are akin to Zen, but not Buddhist
Shojo Zen, the Hinayana, aimed at one's own liberation
Daijo Zen, the Mahayana, aimed at attaining kensho and the realisation of Zen in daily life
Saijojo Zen, in which practice is enlightenment.

Central to Zen-practice is dhyana or meditation. The Zen tradition holds that in meditation practice, notions of doctrine and teachings necessitate the creation of various notions and appearances that obscure the transcendent wisdom of each being's Buddha-nature. This process of rediscovery goes under various terms such as "introspection", "a backward step", "turning-about" or "turning the eye inward".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

buddhas don't do good or evil.