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  • #16
    Well you have your true love which you found below with that camel picture you posted. So I'm glad you're sticking to camels; you'll be happier that way/
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kochagasht View Post
      Yin is the essence of our belief; Yang is the belief lived out.

      nothing more. the balance of the two is living the Tao, but even here this violates Lao Tzu's teaching that anything that describes what the Tao is, isn't the Tao; this is because the Tao must be experienced through living it. one of the quotes i found by Lau Tzu, has great meaning

      “Love is of all passions the strongest, for it attacks simultaneously the head, the heart and the senses.”

      open to discussion on the subject
      Taoism seems really close to Islam from this quote. Islam also teaches us to have faith in God (yin) and then live out that faith by following the sunnah in practical life (yan). To be a proper muslim we need faith and action. Taosim seems to emphsize the same thing.

      I think by "living Taosim", it is meant to one has to experience faith personally and that experience is individual and can not be put into words and shared with others.

      I have read Tao te ching by Lao Tzu and it has great wisdom. Some of his wisdom is not easy to grasp though.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
        Taoism seems really close to Islam from this quote. Islam also teaches us to have faith in God (yin) and then live out that faith by following the sunnah in practical life (yan). To be a proper muslim we need faith and action. Taosim seems to emphsize the same thing.

        I think by "living Taosim", it is meant to one has to experience faith personally and that experience is individual and can not be put into words and shared with others.

        I have read Tao te ching by Lao Tzu and it has great wisdom. Some of his wisdom is not easy to grasp though.
        with the caveat that we invent instruments to see the world in a manner reflective of our biases

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        • #19
          to a taoist, the universe is like an uncut tree, within the form of the tree are limitless potential patterns, and our consciousness cuts through the tree in a single plane, revealing a single pattern of woodgrain, any slice thru the same tree in any other plane would reveal some entirely different pattern, and all patterns are as valid as they are incomplete. the tree itself, reality, remains uncut, with its myriad patterns both latent and manifest. we see one pattern out of an infinity of potentials and imagine we know the whole; at best, we can hope to see how this slice of reality is purely a reflection of our own consciousness, and literally nothing more

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          • #20
            I wish members like RTR comment on the topic and do not beat about the bushes and may not engage in personal attacks. He should realize that he is not the only intellectual here. Kochagasht is bringing great topics for discussion but I do not see RTR commenting on Taoism here but trying belittling Kochagasht. I do not know what inferiority or superiority complex RTR has.

            I love Taoism and have learned a lot from it. Osho is also inspired from Taoism. There is profound wisdom in Taoism.

            Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage.

            If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading.


            Knowing others is wisdom, knowing yourself is Enlightenment.

            To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.

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            • #21
              Re: Osho

              because of the venerated status of taoist philosophical thought, all kinds of folk nonsense seeks legitimacy by borrowing from taoism or invoking taoist imagery... but it is about as solid a connection as that charlatan Deepak Chopra co-opting the word "quantum" to lend some air of credibility to his muddleheaded nonsense

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kochagasht View Post
                Re: Osho

                because of the venerated status of taoist philosophical thought, all kinds of folk nonsense seeks legitimacy by borrowing from taoism or invoking taoist imagery... but it is about as solid a connection as that charlatan Deepak Chopra co-opting the word "quantum" to lend some air of credibility to his muddleheaded nonsense
                In one go Deepak Chopra cannot be called charlatan or muddleheaded or nonsense. He is a great Guru and if he seeks legitimacy from Taoism then there is nothing bad in that. All of us learn from others, quote them, refer to their authority and seek legimitacy. Millions love Deepak Chopra.
                we can have discussion on Deepak Chopra some where else.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                  Deepak Chopra [...] is a great Guru..
                  please elaborate

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kochagasht View Post
                    please elaborate
                    Not to divert the topic on Taoism I have started a new thread on Deepak Chopra. Please join.

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