TOMATOES ARE CHRISTIAN and Haram ,Say Safls

[Tjanaparh]

Jokes a part, food has to do with spirituality.
And not as a rule but as a gradual developement.
That is the problem that people don't question that, while what we eat is directly related to what problems the world affronts.

[Badlun]

So mentioning olive and fig in the Quran makes it extreme? lol




Islam is a way of life - a way of life usually includes clothing and food aswel.

Not mentioning the names in Quran but declaring it sacred and holy religiously is extremism.

If clothing and food are parts of religious duties of Muslims then millions of Muslims must put on the same religious clothes and eat the same food.

Clothes depend on climate, weather, situation, fashion etc. In bedroom you have one kind of clothes while on beach another, in office one kind of clothes while in school another. In presence of your father one kind of clothes while with husband another kind.

Food should be clean, nutritious, balanced and healthy. A mullah should not decide your food, a nutritionist or doctor should do it.

[Badlun]

So mentioning olive and fig in the Quran makes it extreme? lol




Islam is a way of life - a way of life usually includes clothing and food aswel.

Not mentioning the names in Quran but declaring it sacred and holy religiously is extremism.

If clothing and food are parts of religious duties of Muslims then millions of Muslims must put on the same religious clothes and eat the same food.

Clothes depend on climate, weather, situation, fashion etc. In bedroom you have one kind of clothes while on beach another, in office one kind of clothes while in school another. In presence of your father one kind of clothes while with husband another kind.

Food should be clean, nutritious, balanced and healthy. A mullah should not decide your food, a nutritionist or doctor should do it.

[Khorosani]

Not mentioning the names in Quran but declaring it sacred and holy religiously is extremism.

If clothing and food are parts of religious duties of Muslims then millions of Muslims must put on the same religious clothes and eat the same food.

Clothes depend on climate, weather, situation, fashion etc. In bedroom you have one kind of clothes while on beach another, in office one kind of clothes while in school another. In presence of your father one kind of clothes while with husband another kind.

Food should be clean, nutritious, balanced and healthy. A mullah should not decide your food, a nutritionist or doctor should do it.

so is pig and donkey halal?
nutritionists see nothing wrong with killing a cow or animal with a blow to the head (which is clearly haram as stated in surah maidah i.e surah 5:3) so does the nutritionist word have a higher value than Allahs?


As well it seems you don't read Quran at all

يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونَةٍ

This clearly states (if you know a lick of arabic you'd understand it) it is lit up from a blessed olive tree. So the tree is blessed but the vegetable from it isn't? The oil is blessed but the vegetable from where the oil is extracted from isn't?


furthermore, the word "clothes" is subjective. Who defines clothes? to some people a piece of string is clothes. Clothes is defined by what Allah, his messenger and the scholars say is clothes due to everyone elses opinions being subjective. Allah says

And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment - surah nur

most of the mufasirun who know arabic have deduced that Jilbab is wajib according to this verse. So Allah does have a say in your clothes.

[Manzareh]

Not mentioning the names in Quran but declaring it sacred and holy religiously is extremism.

how does declaring something sacred and holy make it extreme? even if it was extreme whats bad about being extremely holy or extremely sacred?

If clothing and food are parts of religious duties of Muslims then millions of Muslims must put on the same religious clothes and eat the same food.

this is a shallow statement that lacks any intellect. Islamically one should not wear skimpy or tight clothing that flaunts the figure and exposes private parts, this is a religious duty and millions of muslims must adhere to this in order to be better muslims. Muslims should all eat HALAL so again all muslims should eat the same food (halal)

Clothes depend on climate, weather, situation, fashion etc. In bedroom you have one kind of clothes while on beach another, in office one kind of clothes while in school another. In presence of your father one kind of clothes while with husband another kind.

This is Islam's outlook aswel.

Food should be clean, nutritious, balanced and healthy. A mullah should not decide your food, a nutritionist or doctor should do it.

You eat pork, which is not clean nutritious or balanced. A mullah does not decide my food, Allah decided the food. If a nutritionist or doctor says i should eat Haram i.e pork other than the reason for a medical condition then i say Allah is more knowledgeable than a nutritionist or doctor and refuse to eat pork for everyday consumption because of its so called nutritious properties.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

The concept of sacred and holy are not islamic concepts in faith. So stop arguing.

[Badlun]

The concept of sacred and holy are not islamic concepts in faith. So stop arguing.

Do you agree with this verse where olive has been declared blessed?

Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light. Allah guideth unto His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories, for Allah is Knower of all things.

( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #35)

[Khorosani]

Do you agree with this verse where olive has been declared blessed?

Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light. Allah guideth unto His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories, for Allah is Knower of all things.

( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #35)

Actually, i do agree with SK. And the olive is blessed. No doubt every fruit and vegetable that is halal and tayyib is blessed. However, according to Allah, it was important for him to underline specifically that the olive tree is blessed.

[Badlun]

so is pig and donkey halal?
nutritionists see nothing wrong with killing a cow or animal with a blow to the head (which is clearly haram as stated in surah maidah i.e surah 5:3) so does the nutritionist word have a higher value than Allahs?

Personally I do not eat pork .Pig has been very clearly mentioned in Quran and eating of pork is forbidden but in the case of pork, no specific reason for the prohibition is given except in Quran 6: 145 when God says, in reference to the flesh of swine (pig), “for that surely is impure”.

The scholars of Islam differ over the issue of whether or not changing the form of the impurity (in this case pork products) lifts the prohibition. The Islamic Organisation for Medical Sciences is of the opinion that changing the form (for example, food, and medicine additives) so that it becomes something different, does lift the prohibition.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2513/

Thus the issue is impurity which can cause many diseases. Also pork contain excess of fats which is harmful for health. Further research is required whether pigs in the modern day reared in farms if given only clean foods, its flesh should be consumable or not?

This is also psychological as some animals including pigs are traditionally considered dirty. Some may perhaps hate the mere mention of dog's meat in the same way as the Muslims shun pork.

[Badlun]

Actually, i do agree with SK. And the olive is blessed. No doubt every fruit and vegetable that is halal and tayyib is blessed. However, according to Allah, it was important for him to underline specifically that the olive tree is blessed.

Then why you said that The concept of sacred and holy are not islamic concepts in faith. Sacred, blessed, holy all are the same thing.

[Khorosani]

Then why you said that The concept of sacred and holy are not islamic concepts in faith. Sacred, blessed, holy all are the same thing.

no, they are different concepts. What is sacred and Holy are captured in the words "muqadas" and "harem" such as Masjid al Haram and Ardul Muqadasa (i.e Palestine and asham). Mubarak has a much more wider meaning and doesn't necessarily imply sacredness and holiness, but at times it does such as when Allah says the Quran is a blessed reminder and when he says it was sent down on a bless night (i.e laylatul qadr) i remember listening to a tafsir of the word baraka and it really means something that is pure and beneficial and lasts long. Fruits and vegetables are blessed, no one would deny that.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Do you agree with this verse where olive has been declared blessed?

Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light. Allah guideth unto His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories, for Allah is Knower of all things.

( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #35)

Barakah and muqadas is not the same. Eating from one single plate gives barakah, but does that mean that plate or the food is sacred? NO!

I am getting tired of schooling you ignorant kaafirs.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

[HalloIsBack]

but cucu is not haram