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  • What does Islam say about Psychic people?

    According to the Kitab at-Tauhid, psychics are sorcerers and they should be executed. Using animals to foretell events is also sorcery and hence shirk. According to Islamic Law, the octupus and its owner should be beheaded. All those who disagree with me are mushrikeen and homosexuals.

    Jundub (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated the following Marfu' Hadith, which At-Tirmidhi reported:

    "The punishment for the sorcerers/magicians is that he be stuck with the sword (executed)."

    In Sahih Al-Bukhari, Bajalah bin `Abadah (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated:

    "'Umar bin Al-Khattab (May Allah be pleased with him) wrote: Execute every sorcerer or sorceress". So Bajalah continued: "We executed three sorcerers."
    Here's a clarification of what "sorcery" is in the next chapter:

    Imam Ahmad (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Muhammad bin Ja'far narrated from Auf, from Haiyan bin Al- `Ala', from Qatan bin Qabisah, from his father that he heard the Prophet (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) say:
    "Verily, Al-'lyafah (letting birds fly to foretell events) and At-Tarq (drawing lines on earth to predict events) and At-Tiyarah (taking sight on some object as a bad omen) are Al-Jibt (sorceries/magic)."

    Source: Kitab-at-Tauheed (Chapters 24 and 25)
    Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 07-12-2010, 03:01 AM.
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

    "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

  • #2
    I've posted on this before.

    Fortune telling in Islam is haraam, and is considered shirk.

    "The Salaah (daily prayer) of whoever approaches a fortune-teller and asks him about anything will not be accepted for forty days and nights." [Reported by Hafsah and collected by Muslim (Sahih Muslim (English Trans.), vol. 4, p. 1211, no. 5440).]

    "With Him are the keys to the unseen and none knows it except Him" [Soorah al-An`aa,m 6:59]

    "Say: None in the heavens or earth knows the unseen except Allaah." [Soorah an-Naml 27:65]

    To read more: http://www.allaahuakbar.net/barelwiy...horoscopes.htm

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    • #3
      Guley and I agree for once! =)

      *Aerial firing*
      Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 07-12-2010, 05:52 PM.
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

      "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
        Guley and I agree for once! =)

        *Ariel firing*
        Lol, you're learning mate. =P

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        • #5
          Well islam does acknowledge the existence of things like magic for e.g. because the someone did do black magic on the prophet. As for psychics that too is recognised. However islam forbids it because the prophet SAW said that whosoever goes to a fortune teller, has his fortune told, has denied the message of Muhammad SAW. Thus things which indicate telling the future such as horoscopes are considered haraam and your prayers dont get accepted for forty days.

          Hope that answers your question!!

          @shomblay.......in psychology we studied that theres things like the barnum effect and cold reading that make people believe that which the psychic is telling them. Connections with fantasy proness etc were also found.
          Last edited by eyeliner; 07-12-2010, 06:36 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shlombay
            So your saying someone cant be born Psychic its just luck?
            no im saying that the concept of being psychic is a social construct. People want to believe in it so they believe it to be true. Even psychological studies showed this.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
              According to the Kitab at-Tauhid, psychics are sorcerers and they should be executed. Using animals to foretell events is also sorcery and hence shirk. According to Islamic Law, the octupus and its owner should be beheaded. All those who disagree with me are mushrikeen and homosexuals.



              Here's a clarification of what "sorcery" is in the next chapter:




              Source: Kitab-at-Tauheed (Chapters 24 and 25)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by nazia
                Can one really be Psychic? recently I saw Paul the Psychic octopus predicting all 8 games for the world up and he was right 8 in a row.


                What does Islam say about this?
                anyone who practices majic, sorcery, or claims to have knowledge of the unseen must be killed.

                In a society which is governed by shariah law, all sorcers, magicians, fortunetellers and Paul the Octubus-owners will be killed.
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                • #9
                  You know Sangar, even though I disagree with some of your beliefs, there is one thing that I love about you: you are sincere and firm on your path. This is the sign of a sincere person. May Allah Ta'ala continuously reward you. May He always guide you to the right path.
                  Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                  [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                  [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                    You know Sangar, even though I disagree with some of your beliefs, there is one thing that I love about you: you are sincere and firm on your path. This is the sign of a sincere person. May Allah Ta'ala continuously reward you. May He always guide you to the right path.
                    may allah guide you back from deviance of qadianism to true original teaching of Islam.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                      may allah guide you back from deviance of qadianism to true original teaching of Islam.
                      Dearest Sangar, what you have failed to realize is that people have to study different faiths before understanding why some are rejected and why some are accepted.

                      My journey with Islam started at the of 18 and ever since I have paid a lot, with my person, for what I have gone and through and found.

                      I can tell you under oath: Allah is my witness that I don't find anything unIslamic with Ahmadiyyat.
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                        I can tell you under oath: Allah is my witness that I don't find anything unIslamic with Ahmadiyyat.
                        I dont believe you. Since you chickened out of the thread I made to examine whether you really do know enough about Islam in order to be able to say what is islamic and what is unislamic.

                        Please go back to that thread and present your evidence how you came to the conclusion that Isa alaysalaam is dead.
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                        • #13
                          My brother, that thread is full of posts. I requested you to start refuting them. You claimed that you read every single post on that thread. Start with one post and we'll take it from there. That thread will continue, it has its own pace.

                          The majority of the world population has not accepted Islam despite Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) being Khatamun Nabiyyeen. What do you think that someone who claims to be sub-ordinate to him will convert the whole world in one day?

                          Brother, don't worry about me putting my evidence forward in one day, in due time things will unfold. What you have to do is to engage and start refuting what I am saying.

                          Dearest Sangar, forget about Ahmadiyyat or Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. You are here preaching your version of Islam. I WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOUR VERSION OF ISLAM. I don't find logic in your version. So, that still leaves me with a dilemma. You have not presented me with an alternative. You are just saying that this and that is wrong.

                          Do you see the flaw in your logic, dear brother?
                          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                          • #14
                            i never claimed I can refute anything. I just want you to cinvince me. Why are you so hasitant in sharing your knowledge with others? If you really have found the truth, why wont you share the truth with your fellow Muslims?

                            If Qadianism really is haqq, why are you palying hide and seek. Go to the thread I made for you and answer me instead of running away and hiding elsewhere.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                              i never claimed I can refute anything. I just want you to cinvince me. Why are you so hasitant in sharing your knowledge with others? If you really have found the truth, why wont you share the truth with your fellow Muslims?

                              If Qadianism really is haqq, why are you palying hide and seek. Go to the thread I made for you and answer me instead of running away and hiding elsewhere.
                              Interesting you say that I am running away. Where have I gone to? I am here loud and clear; however, I am not here to preach. Not at all. I am discussing things with others members as posts come along. You on the other hand are claiming that Ahmadiyyat is wrong, but are not saying anything. At least others, are stepping up to the plate.

                              As I mentioned, go through the posts in that thread and tell me what parts of their interpretation is wrong.

                              Haqq is not acquire through arrogance, NOT AT ALL.
                              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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