are we all christians?

[Karachi]

Since even most muslims follow the Christian Calendar, does that make us all Christians? it's funny that even some religious mullahs on my Facebook are wishing Happy New year to everybody.

[badmash_khel]

lol, no

Chirstian Calendar is unfortunately the remanent of the colonial times. But to be a christian you have to beleive in jesus christ as the son of God and your saviour.

I wonder what is the native calendar of the indus valley civilization. maybe pakistan should adopt that instead.

[Afghanistan2010]

Since even most muslims follow the Christian Calendar, does that make us all Christians? it's funny that even some religious mullahs on my Facebook are wishing Happy New year to everybody.

you mean him and his henchmen

[Pisho]

There is nothing wrong with saying happy new year I say it all the time
And no ur not Christian for saying it :-/
I met a Jehovah's witness and they don't believe in Christmas either and they are some kind of Christians too
I hate when people make a big deal about saying happy birthday and happy new year :-/ if ur gonna be that extreme might as well lock ur self in a cave lol

[Karachi]

^ i am not a mullah, you can say whatever you want, but I find it Ironic though that even many extremist muslims follow the christian calender despite them hating christians, the vary same mullahs on my facebook often post anti christian and anti west messages

[Pisho]

I think I heard someone tell me that Ethiopians have their own calendar too even though they are Christians too I think he said they have 30days in every month and whatever that's left over I don't know what they do whith those day I think they fast I have to google it
Was interesting though

[tor_khan]

Islam makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (Isa PBUH). Muslims believe that Jesus (Isa PBUH) was born immaculately and was the Messiah (translated as Christ). Muslims believe that God/Allah ordained that Jesus (Isa PBUH) heal the sick and give life to the dead.

From my understanding all of that coincides with the Christian view. Where we part is around applying any concept of divinity to a man.

Jesus was circumcised (coincidently Eastern Orthodox Christians celebrate that event on 1 Jan New Years Day). Muslims also observe khitnah and of course, pork was prohibited, so Jesus never touched the stuff.

[کیش]

Time isn't real. Just look at the current years of several calendars.

Gregorian calendar 2012
MMXII
Ab urbe condita 2765
Armenian calendar 1461
ԹՎ ՌՆԿԱ
Assyrian calendar 6762
Bahá'í calendar 168–169
Bengali calendar 1419
Berber calendar 2962
British Regnal year 60*Eliz.*2*–*61*Eliz.*2
Buddhist calendar 2556
Burmese calendar 1374
Byzantine calendar 7520–7521
Chinese calendar 辛卯年十二月初八日
(4648/4708-12-8)
— to*—
壬辰年十一月十九日
(4649/4709-11-19)
Coptic calendar 1728–1729
Ethiopian calendar 2004–2005
Hebrew calendar 5772–5773
Hindu calendars
*- Vikram Samvat 2068–2069
*- Shaka Samvat 1934–1935
*- Kali Yuga 5113–5114
Holocene calendar 12012
Igbo calendar
*- Ǹrí Ìgbò 1012–1013
Iranian calendar 1390–1391
Islamic calendar 1433–1434
Japanese calendar Heisei 24
(平成24年)
Juche calendar 101
Julian calendar Gregorian minus 13 days
Korean calendar 4345
Minguo calendar ROC 101
民國101年
Thai solar calendar 2555
Unix time 1325376000–1356998399

[torkham]

lol, no

Chirstian Calendar is unfortunately the remanent of the colonial times. But to be a christian you have to beleive in jesus christ as the son of God and your saviour.

I wonder what is the native calendar of the indus valley civilization. maybe pakistan should adopt that instead.

The solar calendar is native to india and pakistan bcz solar calendar suits any farming society (as opposed to nomadic society like bedouin, the native americans, both use lunar calendars).

Just peg it to an islamic memorable date, like hijrat, and there you go.

The iranians did precisely that, and it is used in afghanistan too, its the jalali calendar with dari-pashto month names.

Pegging it to 25 december 2013 years ago is tantamount to conceding birth of issal(a) on a day significant to european pagans - a christian practice.

[khushal]

The calander most of the world uses today precedes Christianity. The Dec 25 thing, the Romans used to celebrate that day as the birth of the Sun which coincides with the days getting longer. As Chritianity was spreading within the Roman Empire, the Romans just incorporated Chritian beliefs with Roman pagan beliefs transforming Jeses into some virgin sacrafice for the sins of humanity which is why many christians today are just christians by name because its too hard to beleive all that stuff as divine. and all the holidays like christmas and easter have turned to material commercialized traditions with santa and the easter bunny more popular than anyones birth or sacrafice.