Interest

[amna.]

I wanted to lease a car, I tried googling for the answer. same sources approve of it, some say its Haram. I wont have to pay interest up front or on the monthly payments, but if I pay late, I would have too pay interest.

Please help me, My Islamic knowledge is not that advanced.

[akbarkhan]

I wanted to lease a car, I tried googling for the answer. same sources approve of it, some say its Haram. I wont have to pay interest up front or on the monthly payments, but if I pay late, I would have too pay interest.

Please help me, My Islamic knowledge is not that advanced.

Salam Alaikom,

Please watch all parts of Islam and the International montery system on youtube.

[amna.]

Thank you Akbar khan, but is it Haram though?

[شمله ور خراساني]

I wanted to lease a car, I tried googling for the answer. same sources approve of it, some say its Haram. I wont have to pay interest up front or on the monthly payments, but if I pay late, I would have too pay interest.

Please help me, My Islamic knowledge is not that advanced.

Leasing a car

Is leasing a car in the US haraam? I don't know if there is any interest involved or not.

Praise be to Allaah. The ruling on a thing is based on the way it is understood, so it is not possible to state whether this purchase is permissible or forbidden without studying the contract and its clauses.
There are two common forms of buying and selling by installments (leasing):
1 – Where you buy a car from the owner, whether the owner is an individual or a company, on the basis that you will pay for it in installments. There is nothing wrong with this, even if the price in installments is higher than the price if paid for in cash. See question no. 13973.
2 – Where you buy the car through a company or person who does not own it, rather they pay the price to the owner on your behalf, on the basis that you will pay off the price in installments with interest. This is haraam, because what this contract means is that this company or bank is giving you an interest-based loan, and is not buying anything in such a way that it becomes their property so that they can sell it on to you. See question no. 10958
But if we assume that the bank buys the car in real terms and becomes its owner, then sells it to you in installments for a higher price, there is nothing wrong with that; this is akin to the first scenario.
The Standing Committee was asked:
A man asked his friend to buy a car for him with cash, then sell it to him for a deferred payment with extra money as a profit. Is this regarded as riba?
They replied:

If a man asks another to buy a specific car for him or a car that meets certain requirements that he stipulates, and promises to buy it from him, and he buys it from the one whom he asked to do that and takes possession of it, it is permissible for the one who asked for it to buy it from him after that for cash or in installments with a specific amount of extra money as a profit. This is not a kind of selling what one does not have, because the one who you asked for this product is selling it to the one who asked for it after buying it and taking possession of it. He does not have the right to sell it to his friend, for example, before he buys it, or after he buys it and before he takes possession of it, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade selling goods until the merchant has them in his own possession.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 13/152
And Allaah knows best.


Islam Q&A

[amna.]

Thank you sangar. so those sources that say Interest are okay are pretty much lying? I even read it from one of the members MWMN that its Okay.

[Palwasha]

^Yes interest (usury) is haraam, it's considered a big sin.

Surah Al-baqarah, verse no.275:
"Those who devour usury will not stand except as stands one whom the Satan by his touch has driven to madness. That is because they say, "trade is like usury", but Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden usury",

Verse 278:
"Oh you who believe! Fear Allah and give up what remains of your demand for usury if you are indeed believers."

Surah Aal-Imran, verse no.130:
"Oh you who believe! Devour not usury doubled and multiplied; but fear Allah that you may prosper

For further reading: Interest (Riba)

[akbarkhan]

Thank you Akbar khan, but is it Haram though?

What is haram? Interest?

Lets put it this way. If you commit zina, drink alcohol, gamble etc etc Allah swt does not declare a war against you. But if you take part in usury then He does, that is how severe it is.

Al-Baqarah, (Verses 278 & 279) "O you who believe! Fear Allah and give up what remains (due to you) from riba (from now onward), if you are truly believers. And if you do not do it, then take a notice of war from Allah and His Messenger but if you repent, you shall have your capital sums. Deal not unjustly, and you shall not be dealt with unjustly."

[شمله ور خراساني]

Thank you sangar. so those sources that say Interest are okay are pretty much lying? I even read it from one of the members MWMN that its Okay.

MWMN speaks out of his own whims. He is not qualified to answer you questions. As far as I know, on Pashtunforums nobody is qualified. Not me, not mwmn nor anybody else.


For questions regarding Islam, you should visit websites where renown scholars with access to abundance of information and counseling from other scholars try to answer your questions.

When you ask random people on the internet whom you dont know, you will probably end up misguided.

Please develop the habit of going to experts. There are various websites that provide answers to every day life questions.

I prefer www.islam-qa.com/en And FatwaIslam.Com - Fatwa | Islamic Rulings And Fatwa-Online.com <> eFatwa.com

[شمله ور خراساني]

What about Islamic banks that say we dont charge interest?

islamic banks are highly controversial. Some scholars say that islamic banks are okay. Others say that it is just a farce.

[akbarkhan]

islamic banks are highly controversial. Some scholars say that islamic banks are okay. Others say that it is just a farce.

The Islamic Bank of Cuckooland

Motto: We don't give or take interest.

Business Model: We invest the deposited sums in Dow Jones and FTSE floated companies, we secure these investments with capital bonds. But since we don't give or take interest in our personal banking sector, we can claim to be Shariah compliant.

[شمله ور خراساني]

The Islamic Bank of Cuckooland

Motto: We don't give or take interest.

Business Model: We invest the deposited sums in Dow Jones and FTSE floated companies, we secure these investments with capital bonds. But since we don't give or take interest in our personal banking sector, we can claim to be Shariah compliant.

well put

[Dukhtar-e-Kabul]

What is the Guna for interest? I read the article posted and I don't seem to understand why is it so bad to give someone a profit who is taking the time out to give you money and let you borrow it.

How can that 3percent or 4percent be considered such a bad sin?

[شمله ور خراساني]

What is the Guna for interest? I read the article posted and I don't seem to understand why is it so bad to give someone a profit who is taking the time out to give you money and let you borrow it.

How can that 3percent or 4percent be considered such a bad sin?

Riyadh –ul – saleheen

PROHIBITION OF TAKING AR-RIBA (THE USURY)

Allah, the Exalted, says:
" Those who eat Ar-Riba (the usury) will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaitan (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: `Trading is only like Ar-Riba, whereas Allah has permitted trading and forbidden Ar-Riba. So whosoever receives an admonition from his Rubb and stops eating Ar-Riba, shall not be punished for the past; his case is for Allah (to judge); but whoever returns (to Ar-Riba), such are the dwellers of the Fire - they will abide therein. Allah will destroy Ar-Riba and will give increase for Sadaqat (deeds of charity, alms). And Allah likes not the disbelievers, sinners. Truly, those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-As-Salat), and give Zakat, they will have their reward with their Rubb. On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. O you who believe! Be afraid of Allah and give up what remains (due to you) from Ar-Riba (from now onward).'' (2:275-279)
Ahadith on the subject are many, including Hadith No. 1615.
1615. `Abdullah bin Mas`ud (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) cursed the one who accepts Ar-Riba (the usury) and the one who pays it.
[Muslim].
The narration in At-Tirmidhi adds: And the one who records it, and the two persons who stand witness to it.
Commentary: Both the parties, that is the one who charges interest and the one who pays it, are equally guilty in the matter of usury ( or Riba). This Hadith highlights the intensity of unlawfulness of Ar-Riba, or what has come to be called nowadays interest which can be judged from the fact that not only the person who charges it and the one who pays it are cursed but even those who write the documents and bear witness to the transaction are condemned although the latter two have no active part in the deal. They have been condemned for their mere co-operation in the matter of interest. Thus, we learn that even co-operation in the deal in which interest is involved is an invitation to the Curse and Wrath of Allah. The reason for such severity in the matter of interest is that Islam wants to create a society which is founded on fraternity, sympathy, selflessness and sacrifice. If someone is in need of money, the rich should fulfill his needs for the sake of Allah's Pleasure or give him a loan without interest. As against the Islamic system, this system of interest is based on selfishness, exploitation and suppression. In the interest-ridden societies, the affluent ones are not inclined to co-operate with the needy for the sake of Allah. All they are concerned with is their own interest. Their lust and greed are not reduced in the slightest measure even after draining the last drop of the blood of the poor. This is the reason why Shari `ah has forbidden interest of every kind and regarded it unlawful, no matter whether the loan is for the personal need or commercial requirements.
Some people say that there did not exist any practice of commercial loan in Arabia at that time and people used to borrow money for their personal needs only. On the basis of this plea, they say that the interest which has been forbidden by Islam relates to the latter form. For this reason, they hold that interest lawful which is charged on loan taken for industry and commerce. They contend that since the borrowers in industrial and commercial sectors make huge profits from such loans, how does it become unlawful if they pay the lender a small fixed annual amount against it? In their opinion, it is a right of the lender which should be paid to him on his wealth. But such arguments are totally wrong for two major reasons:
First, the assumption that there was no practice of commercial loans in Arabia is altogether baseless. Commercial loan was certainly in vogue in the Arab society and there is no point in debating this fact.
Second, nobody can say with certainty that the amount invested by a person in business will yield profit without fail because we see it every day that sometimes huge investments made in business and industry result in colossal loss, but the lending agency does not bother about it at all and it recovers from the borrower every penny of his loan and interest. Is this not the height of tyranny and selfishness? If it is supposed that there is no loss, even then the interest on loan substantially contributes to the increase in prices of goods. Whatever interest an industrialist pays on loan is added to the cost of his goods, which ultimately increases their prices and in turn adversely affects the purchasing capacity of the customers - the masses. This is the reason why Islam has closed this largest source of exploitation, suppression and tyranny by declaring every kind of interest unlawful.
It is very sad indeed that in emulating the western societies, Muslims have also founded their economy on the system of interest. The westernized rulers of the Muslim countries are not making any effort to emancipate their countries from this curse, nor do the people of these countries now have any passion to save themselves from it. In fact, a large majority of them borrow and lend money on interest through the bank without any regard to the Islamic injunctions in this respect.
Given below are some points for the consideration of those Muslims who want to protect their Faith and religion and save themselves from the curse of interest.
The word used for interest in the Qur'an is Ar-Riba which means excess. In Shari`ah, it is the measure of excess in one thing when two things are exchanged in some bargain; or in the case of a loan, an increased amount of the loan at the time of its payment. Ar-Riba is of two kinds:
First, Riba Al-Fadl: To take more in exchange of one commodity in the event of barter of two similar commodities.
Second, Riba An-Nasi'ah: To take a larger return of one thing while two identical things are bartered. But in this case the larger return is effected after a fixed period of time.
In Islamic jurisprudence, assets are of two types. One type is of commodities and the other is of the mode of price for exchanging commodities called Thaman Then every type has a class of varieties. For example, food grains are a type of assets and rice, wheat, etc., are its varieties. Similarly, silver, gold, etc., are varieties of the second type of assets. Coins, currency notes, company shares, etc., can also be considered varieties of this type in contemporary life.
This Hadith has injunctions in respect of both types of assets. Six things mentioned in the Hadith are gold, silver, wheat, barley, dates and salt. Some religious scholars have restricted the matters relating to interest to these six things only and do not regard increase or decrease in other things as usury, while going by analogy the majority of scholars and jurists have included other things also in this list. (For instance, all the food grains whether they are calculated in terms of weight or measure, or which have - like gold and silver - the quality of being Thaman, or according to some scholars and jurists which are capable of being stored).
Thus, to sum up, these two types of assets have four varieties:
1. Commodities which are sold by weight.
2. Commodities which are sold by measure.
3. Commodities which can be stored.
4. Commodities which are used as Thaman in sale and purchase.
In all such matters the position of interest-bearing and interest-free things would be as under:
1. When commodities to be exchanged are of the same `type' and `variety,' any increase or decrease in them will be unlawful, as will be their sale on credit; for example, exchange of wheat with wheat and rice with rice. It is essential that these things are equal in measure and/or weight, and are in actual possession.
2. If two things to be exchanged are of the same `type' but of a different `variety,' any increase or decrease in them is permissible. Their sale on credit is, however, not lawful. For instance, the exchange of one kilogram of silver with two grams of gold, or the barter of one kilo barley with half a kilo wheat, or the exchange of one dinar with four riyals. If such a bargain is on cash basis it will be fair, but any credit in this case is not correct.
3. When the two things to be exchanged are not of the same `type' and are also different in `variety,' then any increase or decrease in them is permissible and their sale on credit is also allowed. For example, exchange of one kilogramme of wheat with a gram of gold, bargain of one kilogramme of dates with ten Tola ( about 116 grams) silver. Any increase or decrease in them is permissible, as is their sale on credit

[Dukhtar-e-Kabul]

Sangar Jaanem

What is the logic behind it being such a big sin?

For example, Pre-marital sex = spread of diseases, aids,
lying = deceiving people, ruining peoples lives.

What is the problem with interest. I understand that Islam has forbidden it. I just want to understand why.

I read all three of those points.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Sangar Jaanem

What is the logic behind it being such a big sin?

For example, Pre-marital sex = spread of diseases, aids,
lying = deceiving people, ruining peoples lives.

What is the problem with interest. I understand that Islam has forbidden it. I just want to understand why.

I read all three of those points.

Dokhtare khala,

Where were you in 2008/09? Depression? Economic melt-down? People losing their homes, cars while burried in dept? Banks collapsing?

Any idea why all of this happened?