The Islamic Refutation of the Mutazilah sect by the scholars of Islam

[faye]

See when you respond to those it says you're hurt and damaged, it doesn't ridicule me because I set you up for taking the bait so I make you more psychologically razzled than before.

you don't give an intellectual reply to stupidity; you give the stupid what they can comprehend ...and such I have done for you ...you're welcome

this is also a poor refutation.
if you have the mutazillah wisdom and you actually follow islam, you would be capable of being guidance and an educator to everyone on the forum. you have proven yourself incapable of that.
mu'tazillah, also believe in the qu'rans teachings, to do good deeds and help your fellow muslims, not to insult and encourage arguments and to develop your heart and purify you intent, for which you will be judged by allah.

rather, you behave like a rampaging, foul minded, out of balance, 15 year old. why is that? and don't try to pretend, 'oh, i do it deliberately, i am totally in control.'

[faye]

No transcendence is some flowery term you use to disguise your lack of merit. People like you just use the term transcendence as a scapegoat when challenged to produce results. you said "oh you can't understand it or know it because it is transcendent". This doesn't mean there is no transcendence; but rather you certainly don't have it.

If you think logic is "thoughts" then you don't know what logic is.

so give me proof that logic is other than a way of thinking.
people like you use the word logic as though it is a magic wand to bring form into being. so can we have a bit of proof about how logic is capable of such magic?
and describe trancsendence for me.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

It's not a poor refutation because if it was you'd have refuted it, which you didn't.

what you're doing right now is trying to play off of emotional pull, it's quite hilarious actually that you think that works on me; it only works on simpletons like bread-mole and 2010.

The "no true scotsman" fallacy just replace that with "no true Mu'tazilah".. Mu'tazilah is simply about truth, it's not about being popular or being liked; a person who loves the truth will take 10,000 insults as long as the message is about truth. People who don't, neither love truth nor are concerned about it. That's one way I know your claims are bogus because as demonstrated on this forum; you'll jump to attach yourself to whoever you can at the moment, so long as it furthers your agenda. I don't seek to guide those whose hearts are dark, like yours, you've made your choice and so have bread-mole/2010 they do what they do because they want power, you're doing what you do because your insecurities and low self esteem.

by all means carry on, I have no problems shattering it more.

[faye]

no, transcendence is something YOU want to try and look at logically. that is your problem and why you are so ignorant to other peoples ideas about reality.
god has not been proven either, so do you refute god too? do you refute that mohammad channeled information from gabriel, which is what i read happened?
can we have some evidence that the qu'ran was given from god via gabriel?

logic is thoughts and a particular use of thoughts. it can only deal with the known, within the realm of 'information', though it can speculate the cause and about, 'information'.

you're not trying to evade enlightening us, are you?
stop babbling and please, share your wisdom about these questions.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

haha .....see my words cut into you ......you can't handle the truth; that's why you hide in fantasies like that you're transcendent and have telepathic powers.

[faye]

oh, like a knife. i am shattered spliced and bleeding.

so, are you capable of answering those questions i asked and giving proof or you will continue this childish evasion tactic?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

haha you're damaged it's fun to watch you squirm to regain footing, I think I already explained the lack of evidence for bull**** is the "rebuttal" did I not? or is your brain malfunctioning again because you can't process that refutation.

[faye]

still evading.

so you are saying that the theory that there is a god, which you are unable to prove, is bull****?
you are unable to prove that logic is more than words? must all be HOCUS POCUS then, i guess.

try to restrain your hysteria as you have made another freudian anal slip again, i see.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I never said that, Consciousness remember? There is a valid hypothesis based on current evidence

yours however ..well ...ahem ahem hahaha

[faye]

still evading.
no probs, we get the picture.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I dont think you quite underatand ...your claims are BULL****, they lack evidence in support of their hypothesis ./....there's nothing to evade.

the end.

Do I have to repeat that another 100 times before you stop living in denial and blaming others for your lack of merit? "man up" Faye

[faye]

well, i am asking you to prove your claims, but you can't.
they must be invalid too, then.
is it not logical to assume that, if being guided by your interpretations, accusations and representation of logic?

still on your **** fetish, i see.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Ok here's the proof

you lack evidence = your claims are bull****

proven?

[faye]

Ok here's the proof
you lack evidence = your claims are bull****
proven?

not true. we now have evidence as to why the golden age of islam ended. mu'tazillism failed it.
thank you for giving us this proof.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I'm not taking the bait Faye .....If the Islamic Golden Age failed, it wouldn't have been the Islamic Golden Age

check mate aussie tart